BillyVance 34 #1 October 20, 2008 Hannity's America show on Fox News earlier tonight? It pretty much focused on Obama's associations and upbringings/influences. A bit unnerving, to say the least. I'm going with McCain."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #2 October 20, 2008 Quote Hannity's America show on Fox News earlier tonight? It pretty much focused on Obama's associations and upbringings/influences. A bit unnerving, to say the least. I'm going with McCain. Get your lifejacket. Can you say"Sinking ship" I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #3 October 20, 2008 Apparently you choose not to consider the source. That's certainly your prerogative. People in a democracy get the government they deserve. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Misslmperfect 0 #4 October 20, 2008 i didn't watch it, but i think i'll see if i can find it online somewhere if it influenced you enough to decide your vote. one thing i've learned - especially this year: anybody can make anything look and seem perfectly factual/letigimate if they try hard enough. can you be 100% certain that whomever produced the show was being truly objective in what they aired? i find it strange that all this exposure - on both sides - about who knew who and why, is what is going to be the deciding factor for voters. with the understanding that literally everything being exposed about the 2 of them is going to be tainted with partisan propaganda (i'm assuming most people have that understanding) and the awareness of so many critical issues we, as a nation, are facing, how is this what is pushing people over the edge in one direction or another? is that seriously what matters most? i just don't get it.Oh Canada, merci pour la livraison! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drdive 0 #5 October 20, 2008 You mean the source was not the usual liberal biased media goofs???"We saved your gear. Now you can sell it when you get out of the hospital and upsize!!" "K-Dub" " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #6 October 20, 2008 Quotei didn't watch it, but i think i'll see if i can find it online somewhere if it influenced you enough to decide your vote. one thing i've learned - especially this year: anybody can make anything look and seem perfectly factual/letigimate if they try hard enough. can you be 100% certain that whomever produced the show was being truly objective in what they aired? i find it strange that all this exposure - on both sides - about who knew who and why, is what is going to be the deciding factor for voters. with the understanding that literally everything being exposed about the 2 of them is going to be tainted with partisan propaganda (i'm assuming most people have that understanding) and the awareness of so many critical issues we, as a nation, are facing, how is this what is pushing people over the edge in one direction or another? is that seriously what matters most? i just don't get it. Which was the real point of my post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #7 October 20, 2008 QuoteYou mean the source was not the usual liberal biased media goofs??? That Zooom! over your head was not the jump plane. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drdive 0 #8 October 20, 2008 LOL different strokes for different folks enjoy the next 4 years i may take my tax dollars and move to central america"We saved your gear. Now you can sell it when you get out of the hospital and upsize!!" "K-Dub" " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #9 October 20, 2008 John McCain has the same foreign policy advisors as Bush. Those "influences" scare me more... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #10 October 20, 2008 QuoteHannity's America show on Fox News earlier tonight? It pretty much focused on Obama's associations and upbringings/influences. A bit unnerving, to say the least. I'm going with McCain. The show did nothing to sway you, you were going there anyway..... I like what Colin Powell said about the idiocy behind the smears associated with the fantasy that Ayres is somehow connected to Obama. In general, it beats addressing the issues. It's akin to the pictures, real or fake that associated Clinton with Jane Fonda circa VN era. Or.................. we could talk fiscal policy and how exactly McCain wants to deviate from Bush, but McCain never wants to do that, which is why he will lose. If he would have admitted he fucked up by voting with Bush 90%+ of the time, outlayed Bush's errors, and then layed a platform of how he would deviate from Bush he could have had a chance. Apparently he was too proud so he's done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #11 October 20, 2008 QuoteYou mean the source was not the usual liberal biased media goofs??? All of the media is liberal, they're out to get the RW, haven't you figured that out yet? The RW is here to put fear in you and to save you from that liberal misinformation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #12 October 20, 2008 QuoteLOL different strokes for different folks enjoy the next 4 years i may take my tax dollars and move to central america Good, cause all those liberals that left 4 years ago will come back and need a place to stay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #13 October 20, 2008 Quote LOL different strokes for different folks enjoy the next 4 years i may take my tax dollars and move to central america Here is a start>http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1455528I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alw 0 #14 October 20, 2008 Release the records, answer the questions, remove the doubts. What you are is where you were when. Make it all go away with transparency and truth or perpetuate doubt. "Tell me the truth" is not a racial smear. --------------------------------------------- Every day is a bonus - every night is an adventure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #15 October 20, 2008 Quote I'm going with McCain. You always were.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #16 October 20, 2008 QuoteQuote I'm going with McCain. You always were. I could have been persuaded to vote for some other Democratic candidate, even Hillary instead. But not Obama. I just don't trust him. Too many questionable Islamic/Muslim/anti-American connections and he's been trying to cover them up or make them like they're not a big deal."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #17 October 20, 2008 cover them up???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #18 October 20, 2008 Yep. I'm sure as soon as Obama gets in the Whitehouse, he'll blow up the Pentagon or something. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #19 October 20, 2008 Quote Quote Quote I'm going with McCain. You always were. I could have been persuaded to vote for some other Democratic candidate, even Hillary instead. But not Obama. I just don't trust him. Too many questionable Islamic/Muslim/anti-American connections and he's been trying to cover them up or make them like they're not a big deal. Hehe, heh, heh.... you know, for a minute there you really had me going .... My God. You're really serious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #20 October 20, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote I'm going with McCain. You always were. I could have been persuaded to vote for some other Democratic candidate, even Hillary instead. But not Obama. I just don't trust him. Too many questionable Islamic/Muslim/anti-American connections and he's been trying to cover them up or make them like they're not a big deal. Hehe, heh, heh.... you know, for a minute there you really had me going .... My God. You're really serious. Well yeah, duh. Just look at his background. Associating with certain shady middle easterns, home grown ex-terrorists, radical black activists, etc. Even his own wife wrote a college paper with questionable content in it that I don't think makes her a good first lady for the country. Oh and by the way, the economy was pretty good (maybe not great) the first 6 years of Bush's presidency. It started going to shit soon after the Democrats took control of Congress two years ago."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 333 #21 October 20, 2008 Quotei may take my tax dollars and move to central america Your choice, but be ready to spend just as much on bribes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 333 #22 October 20, 2008 Quote I'm going with McCain. Well, I'm sure that will sway a lot of voters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #23 October 20, 2008 Quote Quote I'm going with McCain. Well, I'm sure that will sway a lot of voters. I'm just stating my opinion. Whether it sways others is up to them."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #24 October 20, 2008 Quote Even his own wife Sigh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #25 October 20, 2008 Quote awareness of so many critical issues we, as a nation, are facing, how is this what is pushing people over the edge in one direction or another? is that seriously what matters most? i just don't get it. I don't get it either. Here we have a candidate with very limited experience, no accomplishments as a politician, and associations with extremists...yet people are going to vote for him because he's not a Republican. www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites