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I was refering to the pres, house and congress when you asked all 3 of what.

I was merely asking a simple question. Furthermore I stated I was not a supporter of Bush. But the constant attacks and whining by some groups remind me of why I left the Dems. Is this only to say this happens on the left ? Of course not, but there is not a viable 3rd party and I haven't seen much new in over 20 yrs from my party...So what choice am I left with ? This is what got me thinking and how I arrived at my question.
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The House is part of congress. Oh well.

>>>>>>>>>>I was merely asking a simple question.

It's a civil conversation, no need to get all worked up.

As for the current Republican Party, you still haven't posted any reason you think they are the better party.

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Trust me I'm not worked up . As for a reason why I think the Rep party would be better...I guess I don't have solid one so I'll have to "Hope" they can do better. You see I believe in limited and smaller gov. Does anyone see either party wanting that. I think more along the lines of a conserative I guess. My point being neither party has gotten everything right and I would like a better option.

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>As for a reason why I think the Rep party would be better...I guess I don't have solid one so I'll have to "Hope" they can do better


That s/b the moniker of the Republican Party . On a wing and a prayer.... I hope.... You do realize that isn't real solid logic, right? Not trying to offend, just that that's not a logical explanation for voting Repub.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You see I believe in limited and smaller gov. Does anyone see either party wanting that.


And yet a better reason to not vote Republican. Can't you see, you aren't posting reasons that support your logic.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My point being neither party has gotten everything right and I would like a better option.


The Republican Party has fucked things up beyond proportion, so to assert not everything right, I don't think any party in US or world history has gotten everything right. All we can do is look at recent history and current agendas and go with that. So I guess the Repubs are back at:

As for a reason why I think the Rep party would be better...I guess I don't have solid one so I'll have to "Hope" they can do better.

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I have plenty of reasons not to vote Dem and my logic is quite good. For you to assert time after time Republican bad, Republican bad kinda sounds to me like a party hack. Saying I "hope" was my lame attempt at a joke.

(so you don't think I'm testy)
and no you can't offend me.
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I think we lose that checks and balances thing when are 1-sided. With that said, I want us to be full-on Dem for at least 4 years so we can come closer to center, even tho it may be harmful in ways. I think the gross-conservatism we now enjoy needs to be undone and with balance we won't get there.

I agree. I get nervous when one team holds all the chips. But I would like to see the Dems hold it for four years for two reasons. The first has to do with SC picks. The second deals with my desire to see the Republican party redefine itself by pushing "crazy base world" back to the margins.

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Political scientists would note that Americans immersed in a checks & balances system of government have difficulty with the logic underlying the parliamentary system, in which the PM is almost always the leader of the majority legislative party. The parliamentary logic is that merging the executive and legislative powers is a way to avoid the impasse - and resulting intertia - that can sometimes occur when the executive and the legislative majority are of opposing parties. The most extreme example of that in recent times was when the Repub majority in Congress, led by Gingrich, made it uncompromisingly difficult for Clinton to govern. Nixon and Reagan faced similar dynamics with their Dem congresses, but there was a lot more mutual compromise in those earlier 2 examples.

I will note, FWIW, that there are quite a number of Western-style democracies with parliamentary governments that work pretty well.

None of this is said to denigrate the American system, which I, too, happen to prefer. I'm just pointing out that it is not the only, or even the clearly superior, model of governance in a successful democracy.

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My ideal is a libertarian president, democratic house and republican senate (preferably by tiny majorities.)

Interesting.

I wonder how many people take such things into consideration when they vote. I've been known to like one candidate for an office slightly more than another but vote for my less-preferred for the sole purpose of such a balance.

My guess is most party members tend to vote party lines regardless.

Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.