US attacks Syria?

[Trent 0]

In my response, it is the state. I don't really think Syria is ignorant of what is going on inside its borders, nor do I think they're not aiding it in some way. But that's just my opinion.

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[Skyrad 0]

Big boys games, big boys rules,

Fair play.

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[Darius11 12]

I often wonder how much lower we can go. Reading some of the replies on here I believe we could have a video of US troops killing children and just tell the SHEEP that they were terrorists and they would believe any garbage just not to shake their fake reality.

Hey how is the WMD search going?


Terrorist? I made a post here asking for definition and there was only one answer that could not be applied to us. on what makes someone a terrorist. Perspective. That’s it. It depends who is doing the defining.

Some on here believe no matter what laws we brake and what we do we are always right and we are above the law, and some believe in justice.


If you believe in justice then it is impossible to not have a huge issue with our actions and take your self seriously. Justice means laws get applied to all. If an action is considered bad it is bad for all.

If you think justice is for the weak and might makes right then we view the world so differently that there is no point in a discussion. Some of us hope we have evolved from the stone age mentality some want us to stay there.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[downwardspiral 0]

If you were the commander on the ground what would you have done? You have a terrorist organization doing harm to your troops and the Iraqi civilian population but they're just across the Syrian border.

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Terrorist? I made a post here asking for definition and there was only one answer that could not be applied to us. on what makes someone a terrorist. Perspective. That's it.

You forgot brown skin and/or a funny name.

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[kelpdiver 2]

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I often wonder how much lower we can go. Reading some of the replies on here I believe we could have a video of US troops killing children and just tell the SHEEP that they were terrorists and they would believe any garbage just not to shake their fake reality.

It would appear that the AP reporter's observation backs the US story better than the Syrian version. And we already know the Syrians has recent history in lying about these events.

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Terrorist? I made a post here asking for definition and there was only one answer that could not be applied to us. on what makes someone a terrorist. Perspective. That’s it. It depends who is doing the defining.

That's been said multiple times before. For that reason, I used the word 'enemy' instead, though I think terrorist is a valid word to use for a nationless guerrilla group. But no doubt, one nation's terrorists is another's freedom fighters. Either way, it's irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

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(1) History, and by extension, definitions, are always written by the victorious party;

(2) One man's freedom fighter, is another man's terrorist;

(3) "War is the terror of the rich, and terror is the war of the poor" (P Ustinov, UN Ambassador).

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I often wonder how much lower we can go. Reading some of the replies on here I believe we could have a video of US troops killing children and just tell the SHEEP that they were terrorists and they would believe any garbage just not to shake their fake reality.

Hey how is the WMD search going?


Terrorist? I made a post here asking for definition and there was only one answer that could not be applied to us. on what makes someone a terrorist. Perspective. That’s it. It depends who is doing the defining.

Some on here believe no matter what laws we brake and what we do we are always right and we are above the law, and some believe in justice.


If you believe in justice then it is impossible to not have a huge issue with our actions and take your self seriously. Justice means laws get applied to all. If an action is considered bad it is bad for all.

If you think justice is for the weak and might makes right then we view the world so differently that there is no point in a discussion. Some of us hope we have evolved from the stone age mentality some want us to stay there.

[Nick 0]

Perhaps the UK should have sent a few SAS squads into Boston in the 70s and 80s to take out all the terrorism supporters based there.

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[Skyrad 0]

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Terrorist? I made a post here asking for definition and there was only one answer that could not be applied to us. on what makes someone a terrorist. Perspective. That’s it. It depends who is doing the defining.

Terrorists don't wear uniforms, attack civillians and deploy the systemic use of terror in order to achieve their objectives. They also attempt to use guile and tactics that will cause government/allied forces to kill the local civillian population. They may be called separatist, freedom fighter, liberator, revolutionary, vigilante, militant, paramilitary, guerrilla, rebel, Jihadi, mujaheddin, fedayeen but the bottom line is that all may use terrorism to achieve their aim.
Soldiers however wear uniforms and while they may commit acts of terror those acts are not systemic and planned but criminal acts which they are held accountable for.
While ones support or rejection of the cause of the group may mean that we either call them freedom fighters or terrorists there can be little doubt that most of the time both are using terrorism to achieve their aims and are therefore terrorists. The bottom line is that we have to make a choice as to which side we are on. Due to the nature of COIN operations civillians will die and laws be broken but you can't fight such a war with one hand tied behind your back.

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[Skyrad 0]

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Perhaps the UK should have sent a few SAS squads into Boston in the 70s and 80s to take out all the terrorism supporters based there.

Sounds like a bloody good idea to me.

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[Darius11 12]

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If you were the commander on the ground what would you have done? You have a terrorist organization doing harm to your troops and the Iraqi civilian population but they're just across the Syrian border.

The simple answer is I wouldn’t be the commander on the ground because I do not do things that I do not believe in.
There is no justification for the war in Iraq. The original reasons that were given were BS, Therefore I would say wow we fucked up and killed a whole lot of inocent people. What we need to do is try to make up for it. We are simply the invaders and it is hard to try to sound like the good guys when you’re doing what bad guys do.

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[Darius11 12]

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Terrorists don't wear uniforms

All nations have secret fighters that do not ware uniforms, they are trained to hide who they are and where they come from.

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The bottom line is that we have to make a choice as to which side we are on. Due to the nature of COIN operations civillians will die and laws be broken but you can't fight such a war with one hand tied behind your back.

That’s your bottom line. Mine says we need to lead by example, we need to honor what we stand for and not do the very actions we condemn. We need to understand that minds can not be changed by guns and murder. We need to understand where terrorizm starts from. It has never been because we have freedom that just some redneck ignorant shit they feed to the sheep. They hate us and we are hated because of the very actions we have takin. Actions like the war in Iraq.

It is as simple as this. If you are an Iraqi kid or teenager and you just saw your family get vaporized by a US bomb you have more of a chance to hate the US then if you didn’t. If you didn’t see invaders with guns who have been asked to leave everyday chances are you would hate the US less.


All it takes to make the world a better place is every one treat people like they wanted to be treated. Simple as that. So why do people want to kill us, because we have killed them.

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Do you feel the same about Afghanistan?

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[kelpdiver 2]

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If you were the commander on the ground what would you have done? You have a terrorist organization doing harm to your troops and the Iraqi civilian population but they're just across the Syrian border.

The simple answer is I wouldn’t be the commander on the ground because I do not do things that I do not believe in.
There is no justification for the war in Iraq. The original reasons that were given were BS, Therefore I would say wow we fucked up and killed a whole lot of inocent people. What we need to do is try to make up for it. We are simply the invaders and it is hard to try to sound like the good guys when you’re doing what bad guys do.

There are many justifications for Iraq II, just none that you agree with.

The CO on the field doesn't have the option of choosing which actions he'll take. The President dictates and it trickles down to him.

That said, the choice to enter Syria was not made at his level, but at a much higher one.

[kelpdiver 2]

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Perhaps the UK should have sent a few SAS squads into Boston in the 70s and 80s to take out all the terrorism supporters based there.

Who's to say they didn't? I dare say the Brits are among the least qualified, morally, to talk about righteous tactics in dealing with terrorist forces. We bent the Constitution with the Patriot Act, but at least we had those rights to start with.

You do seem to be expanding the scope a bit though. The US entered into Syria to get actual terrorists. You're talking about going after the supporters now - might have to take out half of San Francisco.

[Skyrad 0]

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We need to understand where terrorizm starts from. It has never been because we have freedom that just some redneck ignorant shit they feed to the sheep. They hate us and we are hated because of the very actions we have takin. Actions like the war in Iraq.

I agree with the above, however we are where we are. We started this war in Iraq and destroyed the country so now we have a duty to rebuild it and hand it back. That means that we also have to supress those who would see the country go to hell in a hand cart.

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It is as simple as this. If you are an Iraqi kid or teenager and you just saw your family get vaporized by a US bomb you have more of a chance to hate the US then if you didn’t. If you didn’t see invaders with guns who have been asked to leave everyday chances are you would hate the US less.

True but there are also people who want to kill soldiers to try and keep the place in chaos to allow them to conduct their organised crime.
So its not really that simple at all.

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All it takes to make the world a better place is every one treat people like they wanted to be treated. Simple as that. So why do people want to kill us, because we have killed them.

And then there are those who want to kill us because they see our lifestyle as sinful and evil. Who want to kill us because they believe that that is waht God wants them to do. To those people they don't need an excuse, of course they have one but even if they didn't they would still want to destroy us and the way of life of people in the US because they believe that it is wrong, sinful and their duty.

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In my response, it is the state. I don't really think Syria is ignorant of what is going on inside its borders, nor do I think they're not aiding it in some way. But that's just my opinion.

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