happythoughts 0 #1 October 27, 2008 I tend to pick my associates. For fun, I hang out with skydiving. The purpose of my association is a shared interest in recreational sport. I don't have to share their view on anything but "skydiving is fun". That can be attributed to me. If I was to hang out with the KKK, NOW, or NAACP for political reasons, I wouldn't need to be buddies with anyone in charge. People could easily recognize my support of the general principles of the group. So, I tend to believe that politicians can be judged for who they associate with for political or moral reasons. Who do they willingly align themselves with? There doesn't have to be any kissy-face, they just have to attend a lot of the same meetings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MegaGoliath11 0 #2 October 27, 2008 and your point being? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #3 October 27, 2008 Quoteand your point being? If someone attends a church for 10 years and hears the same general theme, that is probably what they believe, or they would go somewhere else. If someone works with political action committees for 10 years that have similar political goals, that is their political agenda. Good yardsticks to gauge future ethical or political decisions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 333 #4 October 27, 2008 You can say that, but I've seen you on a lot of threads with, how can I say this, people expressing unsavory views, to say the least. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #5 October 27, 2008 I personally associate and count leftists as my best friends because they are far more interesting people. I'm a free-marketer Milton Friedman guy and my best friend is a neo-Keynesian socialist. I actually enjoy differences in people more than I enjoy similarities. We do enjoy what we have in common (like beer, women and hockey). But we are pretty good about respecting viewpoints. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #6 October 27, 2008 QuoteI personally associate and count leftists as my best friends because they are far more interesting people. Right. I covered that. If you hang out and drink beer, you are drinking beer. If you hang out and skydive, you are skydiving. However, if you show up at a political meeting and support their views in repeated situations, then you support their views. Context, intent, and repeat of actions. Re-read the first post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #7 October 27, 2008 Quote You can say that, but I've seen you on a lot of threads with, how can I say this, people expressing unsavory views, to say the least. Have you met him?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #8 October 27, 2008 Quote Quote You can say that, but I've seen you on a lot of threads with, how can I say this, people expressing unsavory views, to say the least. Have you met him? What? You're saying I'm an old fart because I hang out with old radicals? Next you'll say I'm fat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #9 October 27, 2008 QuoteQuoteI personally associate and count leftists as my best friends because they are far more interesting people. Right. I covered that. If you hang out and drink beer, you are drinking beer. If you hang out and skydive, you are skydiving. However, if you show up at a political meeting and support their views in repeated situations, then you support their views. . So when McCain shows up at a many political rallies where people hold signs and shout out that Obama is a muslim and a traitor and an ay-rab, he's showing support for their views. OK, got it.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #10 October 27, 2008 Quote So when McCain shows up at a many political rallies where people hold signs and shout out that Obama is a muslim and a traitor and an ay-rab, he's showing support for their views. OK, got it. Some of this stuff has gotten really weird. I've never really seen people act like this. It's politics, but a little much. I tend to blame it on fear. The worse the economy gets, the more people want a safe haven, some kind of answer. When good people do the right thing and still lose control of their life, it makes them act crazy. McCain has good information that O is not an arab. Obama a traitor? To their beliefs, sure. He has spent his career as a Chicago machine politician, and running social programs. If Hillary was Obamas running mate, what would her supporters say about him? (He'd be wearing a Kevlar shower cap to bed) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #11 October 27, 2008 Not all associations fit your theory. "If Hitler invaded Hell I would at least make a favourable reference to the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #12 October 27, 2008 >Right. I covered that. If you hang out and drink beer, you are drinking >beer. If you hang out and skydive, you are skydiving. >However, if you show up at a political meeting and support their views in >repeated situations, then you support their views. So in other words, if you show up at church, you are just hanging out with people at church. If you sit on an educational board, you are just hanging out with other people on an educational board. But if you go to an Alaskan separatist meeting, and record messages for their meetings, and your husband is a member, then you support their views. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites