Rookie120 0 #1 November 4, 2008 For the first time since I turned 18 (I'm 30 now) I am not going to vote. I am so pissed at what this election has turned into I refuse to get involved. Both sides are a bunch of fakes that will say anything to blow a bunch of smoke up our asses and try to make us chear and yell and make us think they really care about the people. They dont! All they care about is power. Power and our money! I cannot go to the polls and vote for lesser of 2 evils again like I did last time. When I was 18 I was still in High School. Election day came, I was so proud to have voted. I met most of the local officials in my area and went to see them speak at the rallys on both sides. I read up on the local issues. Clinton and Dole was my choice for president. Clinton got my vote that year. In 2000 I voted for Bush. I thought we needed some new ideas in the House from the Clinton years. The last election I voted the lesser of 2 evils and look at what that got me! So this year I am standin on the sidelines. Both side have brought out the worse in them. McCain is going around saying anything he thinks will get a vote out of you. Obama is out there trying to buy votes with all the new Govt programs he wants because he thinks we as Americans are either to weak or to stupid to take care of ourselves. Both sides are full of shit and no matter who wins the next 4 years are gonna be rough. I just cannot believe with the pain that a lot of people are going through, neither side has a clear advantage in this election. With the hate that is shown towards the White House and Bush Obama has not been able to rally the people and blow McCain out of the water. I dont know why but I think he has a hard 4 years ahead of him if he wins. Good luck to both sides today. I really mean that. Hopefully someone brings some calm to this country. I will be on the sidelines today drinking a Sam Adams watching this FUCK FEST that we call election day.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #2 November 4, 2008 why not investigate your local independent candiates,You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #3 November 4, 2008 Quotewhy not investigate your local independent candiates, I did! Dont really give a shit about them either. Just gonna sit this one out. The locals are full of shit to. Every year they say they wont raise taxes ect. ect. Then they raise them anyway. To hell with them. It doesnt matter who you vote for. Your gonna get fucked anyway.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #4 November 4, 2008 both, two, bunch of fakes, lesser of evils..... your choice I guess, but my ballot had 13 different candidates for Pres. plus amendments and judges etc on it. To say you are not voting at all, I think should be reconsidered. There are other choices. Trying voting for the person(s) that most closely follow your beliefs if you want to see some changes from the 2 party system. And i am sure your ballot probably has a lot of other stuff on it worthy of your choices.....not just the President. "I'm really a Libertarian - that's why i'm voting for McCain" (?) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #5 November 4, 2008 I share your sentiment. My apathy is at an all time high. Both sides totally suck rocks. How depressing that the greatest democracy in the world has come down to this BS. We are one small step away from both parties putting out a I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I advertisement. Fucking pathetic. If McCain had not chosen window dressing for a VP, he would probably get my vote. If there was any moderation to Obama's desire to take us down the path to full-fledged socialism, he might get my vote. Hard to believe how polarized we have become, and how crippling that polarity is in preventing the use of common sense and generating effective change and intelligent movement into the future. IMO, anybody who thinks either slate, or either parties agenda is exactly what the country needs ought to get a psych evaluation. I acknowledge the other party options, but know that unless they get a meaningful share, it is ignored. I'd say anything under 5% is trifling, but I'm probably gonna do it anyway. Who knows, maybe 10% of the voting public does it and we at least send a strong message. Last time I felt similarly (1992), I voted Perot; simply as a protest vote. I know, can be seen as a waste and a stupid thing to do; but I'm not voting for either of these morons." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #6 November 4, 2008 Quote greatest democracy in the world eh?... there's a special word that we reserve for statments like now isn't there? It's bollocks. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotBond 0 #7 November 4, 2008 Quoteboth, two, bunch of fakes, lesser of evils..... your choice I guess, but my ballot had 13 different candidates for Pres. plus amendments and judges etc on it. To say you are not voting at all, I think should be reconsidered. There are other choices. Trying voting for the person(s) that most closely follow your beliefs if you want to see some changes from the 2 party system. And i am sure your ballot probably has a lot of other stuff on it worthy of your choices.....not just the President. "I'm really a Libertarian - that's why i'm voting for McCain" (?) I would agree. The voting for lesser of two evils still means your voting for an unacceptable choice - so don't. Vote your conscience. Vote for the person you think would be the best candidate, even if it means writing in the name. At least you are not "wasting" a vote. And, there are local races, proposals, etc., that need your input, so get out and vote for them. But don't sit it out totally.Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyways... - John Wayne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #8 November 4, 2008 vote for a third pasrty candidate then, it will send a louder message than sitting it out. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #9 November 4, 2008 Sorry to hear that you're giving up. Think about it some more. The polls won't close for hours. That said, I'm actually feeling pretty good about my vote. I'm hoping this is a turning point for our country. I like to think that having an influx of younger voters, those who are more technologically savvy, will combine with the information age and help eventually crush old school politics. We need more daylight in our government and they're the ones to do it. I also think that my chosen candidate can provide some positive influence both domestically and globally. What can I say? I'm feeling optimistic today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #10 November 4, 2008 It is a hard decision. It's hard for everyone. If you decline to help make that decision I hope you are not going to complain about the decision that others make in your absence. You have forfeited your right to complain for 2,4 and 6 years respectively about the actions of the House, POTUS and Senate. Ten years from now if the SCOTUS makes a 5-4 decision that you don't like; one that is affected by an appointee of this president, remember, you didn't help, so shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #11 November 4, 2008 You should at lest go and sign in. That way, your vote actually "counts" since you then show that you are voting for no one. And by the way, I understand about not even wanting to vote third-party/independent. I don't know how my state managed to rack up some of the biggest nutcases to run for the other parties.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #12 November 4, 2008 Not voting is nothing to brag about, Hold your nose and pick who you see as the lesser of two evils. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #13 November 4, 2008 QuoteAnd, there are local races, proposals, etc., that need your input, so get out and vote for them. Why? The people dont mean SHIT! Look at NYC. The people voted for term limits for mayor of NYC and what does Bloomberg do, goes behind the peoples back and gets city hall to vote to end the term limits the way the people voted for it. Our voice are heard on deaf ears! So go ahead and and keep thinking your vote means something. Until a person runs for office who says they are going to cut Govt spending and offering new programs to every swingin dick who thinks life is just to hard to do it on there own I am sittin this one out. Mmmmmm. Beer is good. I feel for those people standing in line.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #14 November 4, 2008 Quote Quote greatest democracy in the world eh?... there's a special word that we reserve for statments like now isn't there? It's bollocks. You are correct. Just feeling a bit more than a bit depressed about the whole thing. Think I'll go home and kick the dog and shave the cat. Good thing for the wife and kids that we have pets." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #15 November 4, 2008 Quote Not voting is nothing to brag about, Hold your nose and pick who you see as the lesser of two evils. I did that last time and look how that turned out! If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #16 November 4, 2008 You're right. The country is better off if you don't contribute. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #17 November 4, 2008 Quote You have forfeited your right to complain for 2,4 and 6 years respectively about the actions of the House, POTUS and Senate. My friend Gearge Carlin has a great reply to your statement!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dqsNrmXgP0If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #18 November 4, 2008 (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #19 November 4, 2008 QuoteYou're right. The country is better off if you don't contribute. Thats nice! Hindsight is 20-20If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtnesbitt 0 #20 November 4, 2008 Quote Not voting is nothing to brag about, Hold your nose and pick who you see as the lesser of two evils. I couldnt disagree with this statement more and I agree completely with the original poster. (Even though I did vote this year.) I recently had a conversation with some very liberal people at a local pub. (Actually i was fending off attacks.) Anway, when I told them that I have abstained from voting on an occasion they claimed I was unAmerican and it was my responsability to vote. Really? I thought voting was a RIGHT? Thats the great thing about a RIGHT, it means you have a choice, and neither choice is wrong. I also have a right to bear arms but I do not own a firearm. Does that also make me unAmerican? People are always yelling about making sure you exercise your right to vote, but honestly, as long as you are registered and you make a well thought out decision about who you vote for or even decide not to vote you are still exercising that right. Telling people they HAVE to do something is the beginning of a long slippery slope that many other countries have fallen victim to."If this post needs to be moderated I would prefer it to be completly removed and not edited and butchered into a disney movie" - DorkZone Hero Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karenmeal 0 #21 November 4, 2008 No vote = not allowed to whine for the next four years. This is your chance to be heard. Just write-in a candidate. I think that will send the message that you're disillusioned with our political choices in this country. "Life is a temporary victory over the causes which induce death." - Sylvester Graham Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stitch 0 #22 November 4, 2008 OK. Just remember you didn't vote. So don't be in here spewing off about the political agenda for the next 4 years. It has been my experience, that those that don't vote are usually the loudest after the elections are over."No cookies for you"- GFD "I don't think I like the sound of that" ~ MB65 Don't be a "Racer Hater" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #23 November 4, 2008 Suck it up CUPCAKE... get your ass out and be a part of the process. Just remember.. when yall are whining about something for the next 8 years on here.. we can point back and say... why are you bitchin.. you did not even take the time to participate. You can at least say.. hey.. I didn't vote for HIM... I did not vote for HIM in the last two elections... it was all YOUR fault. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #24 November 4, 2008 I just returned fron casting my ballot. I voted for those candidates I felt will do a good job and skipped those contests in which i didn't like any of the candidates. I also did not make a selection on a couple bond issues and other local issues. The selection of Pres. and VP are just a small fraction of the issues being decided today. Please reconsider not voting. If you don't like any of the presidential candidates, then don't vote for any of them. Of course, choosing not to vote is still making a choice. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EXTremeWade 0 #25 November 4, 2008 Quotevote for a third party candidate then, it will send a louder message than sitting it out. NO shit...he who doesn’t cast his vote, has no room to complain...regardless of who is in office. It is a civic duty..but then again, the fellows name is Rookie. That applies largely, here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites