jtnesbitt 0 #51 November 4, 2008 OK, i think we might be misunstanding one another. If you look at my initial arguement you can see that I don't beleive that choosing the less of two evils is right, and that in those cases one has a right to decide not to vote. It has nothing to do with laziness since to come to that decision they must have done the appropriate research. For some reason you seem to think I am saying if people want they can stay home and say screw the whole thing. That is not what I am saying at all. THAT is laziness. I am not saying voting is bad and that people who don't want to shouldnt have to, thats stupid. If someone however is faced with a decision between two things and neither one is in their interest then they do in fact have the right to not take part. Of course I am making the assumption here that people know what their options are and are doing research."If this post needs to be moderated I would prefer it to be completly removed and not edited and butchered into a disney movie" - DorkZone Hero Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #52 November 4, 2008 Quote I dont owe shit! I have given enough. It doesnt matter what we put down at the ballot box. These crooked SOB's here in New Jersey will find a way to get around it anyway. This quickly becomes a self fullfilling prophesy. If the people don't even try to vote, it's far easier for the politicians to do what they want. Quote I see it a little different. If McCain gets in and 2 years from now we are still in Iraq I dont want to hear you bitch. You voted for him. (If thats how you voted). If Obama gets in and rapes the hell out of you with new taxes I dont want to hear you bitch. You voted for him. (If thats how you voted) I can bitch all I want to because I do not support these assholes! And I'll turn this around on you - we know that a vote for McCain is a vote for the Iraqi war. So if you decline to vote for Obama, you're helping McCain out, and therefore lose your standing to complain about the war. The two candidates are clearly separated on this issue. Same with taxes - if you don't vote for McCain, who as least is pretending he'll cut taxes and balance the budget, you don't have standing to complain if Obama wins and goes ahead and gets Congress to raise taxes. -- Since it is really Congress that will dictate taxes, and to a smaller degree, the war in Iraq, the vote for the House Member is certainly important this year. So even if you can't take a stand on the President, you can do so at the district level. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #53 November 4, 2008 Why not vote for Ralph Nader? I love this guy (and even voted for him once) - he may not win elections, but he's at least good for a laugh. Quote Satire. That's how Ralph Nader closed his third-party presidential campaign today at a small press conference in Washington D.C.'s National Press Club. He instructed reporters that he would only give one-word answers to all questions posed -- in a sarcastic nod to the sound-bite nature of election coverage. The stilted question-and-answer session felt at times like a bad game of "Jeopardy." Reporters played along with little protest and reached for questions that led to one-word answers. Many even started asking one-word questions, though that wasn't in the rules. But there were some telling moments. Here's a sampling: What is your opinion of Obama? "Clever." What is your opinion of Palin? "Developing." How much money did you raise for your campaign? "Insufficient." Why do you keep running for president? "Justice." Will you be elected president? "No." When do you think you will win? "Sometime." What should Bush do on his last day in office? "Surrender." Will Obama be able to provide tax cuts to 95 percent of the population? "Impossible." What is your opinion of the media? "Servile." While he predicted a "landslide," for Obama, he reserved his harshest words for the Democrat. Nader said in various ways Obama would disappoint supporters and not do much to change the power structure and status quo in Washington. Asked why the Obama years might not mimic the sweeping changes that marked the FDR presidency, Nader said, "Cowardliness." Asked to elaborate, Nader said, “corporations.” He also called the money raised by Obama to support his campaign, "disgusting." Nader, finally, when asked if he would run again, he offered only this reply: "Maybe." Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #54 November 5, 2008 Quote Why not vote for Ralph Nader? I love this guy (and even voted for him once) - he may not win elections, but he's at least good for a laugh. I voted for him before as well and have no regrets about it. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mpohl 1 #55 November 5, 2008 "The hottest places in hell are reserved for those, who in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality." --Dante, (1265 - 1321) QuoteFor the first time since I turned 18 (I'm 30 now) I am not going to vote. I am so pissed at what this election has turned into I refuse to get involved. Both sides are a bunch of fakes that will say anything to blow a bunch of smoke up our asses and try to make us chear and yell and make us think they really care about the people. They dont! All they care about is power. Power and our money! I cannot go to the polls and vote for lesser of 2 evils again like I did last time. When I was 18 I was still in High School. Election day came, I was so proud to have voted. I met most of the local officials in my area and went to see them speak at the rallys on both sides. I read up on the local issues. Clinton and Dole was my choice for president. Clinton got my vote that year. In 2000 I voted for Bush. I thought we needed some new ideas in the House from the Clinton years. The last election I voted the lesser of 2 evils and look at what that got me! So this year I am standin on the sidelines. Both side have brought out the worse in them. McCain is going around saying anything he thinks will get a vote out of you. Obama is out there trying to buy votes with all the new Govt programs he wants because he thinks we as Americans are either to weak or to stupid to take care of ourselves. Both sides are full of shit and no matter who wins the next 4 years are gonna be rough. I just cannot believe with the pain that a lot of people are going through, neither side has a clear advantage in this election. With the hate that is shown towards the White House and Bush Obama has not been able to rally the people and blow McCain out of the water. I dont know why but I think he has a hard 4 years ahead of him if he wins. Good luck to both sides today. I really mean that. Hopefully someone brings some calm to this country. I will be on the sidelines today drinking a Sam Adams watching this FUCK FEST that we call election day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #56 November 5, 2008 Oh no! The I'm going to hell speech! I know I'm going there. I 'm just confirming my reservation.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mpohl 1 #57 November 5, 2008 Your soul can still experience eternal bliss and salvation if polling in your state is yet underway. Just vote for the Big O! Seriously though, not having an opinion is worse than having the wrong one. In my books, at least. QuoteOh no! The I'm going to hell speech! I know I'm going there. I 'm just confirming my reservation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
