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It speaks volumes that Obama is the president elect. With only 13% of the voting population being black I think this has really shown where we are as a country. For that I am proud and I do have faith that our system will prevail. Now maybe the insane ramblings of Jesse Jackson will be subdued as he is no longer the top african-american dog. It is going to be a lot harder for him and the Rainbow Co. to play the race card...... another positive to see even if you are a conservative!

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I also am glad we have finally made in important step not only to elect a minority to the highest office, but also to start to correct 16 years of self-serving bastards who served as President.
A question, with no right or wrong answers. In the past blacks have voted roughly 60% for the Democratic party. This year the estimates have run as high as 93% (that i have seen). Many of these additional votes can be attributed to race as being the ONLY factor. There are also people who voted Republican for no other reason than McCain is NOT black.
Are both types of voters racist? Or just those who voted for one particular candidate? Or neither?
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I also am glad we have finally made in important step not only to elect a minority to the highest office, but also to start to correct 16 years of self-serving bastards who served as President.
A question, with no right or wrong answers. In the past blacks have voted roughly 60% for the Democratic party. This year the estimates have run as high as 93% (that i have seen). Many of these additional votes can be attributed to race as being the ONLY factor. There are also people who voted Republican for no other reason than McCain is NOT black.
Are both types of voters racist? Or just those who voted for one particular candidate? Or neither?


anybody that voted for color is a racist. i voted for McCain becuse i side with issues that McCain presented. there was some reporters that asked questions of people on the street that had no idea what Obama stood for or what his policies are. one of my wifes freinds voted for Obama and didn't even know who Biden was. the people that don't take the time to find out at least a little about the election have no right voting.

although i am republican and don't agree with Obama i still respect the ones that voted for him because they agree with his policies but have no respect for the people that voted not knowing the issues or even who was running for vice president.

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i still respect the ones that voted for him because they agree with his policies but have no respect for the people that voted not knowing the issues or even who was running for vice president.



this part I agree with

pitching a pres election as racial issue of any kind is the worst kind of racism - it diminishes Obama's accomplishment severely in a very piss poor way

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i still respect the ones that voted for him because they agree with his policies but have no respect for the people that voted not knowing the issues or even who was running for vice president.



this part I agree with

pitching a pres election as racial issue of any kind is the worst kind of racism - it diminishes Obama's accomplishment severely in a very piss poor way



I agree that pitching a Presidential election as a racial issue, or voting for him due to his race...those would be bad things. But I don't see a problem with, once he's been elected on his merits, taking a moment to observe the progress that has been made on race relations in this country. We can walk around ignoring the elephant in the room or we can take a moment to celebrate our growth. Personally, I like the current level of discourse, but I also hope it fades away, eventually closing the book on what has not historically been our greatest strength. We've improved, and that's a good thing, but sometime soon we'll need to stop patting ourselves on the back and get to work on our other problems.

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Now maybe the insane ramblings of Jesse Jackson will be subdued as he is no longer the top african-american dog.



When the camera kept going back to him crying at Obama's speech, I tried to voice his thoughts to my girlfriend...yelling "Dammit! I coulda been a contender!" and "I wanna punch him in the balls!" :D

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In the past blacks have voted roughly 60% for the Democratic party. This year the estimates have run as high as 93% (that i have seen). Many of these additional votes can be attributed to race as being the ONLY factor.



Kerry got 88% of black votes in 2004. Gore got 90% of black votes in 2000. Clinton got 83% in 1992 and 1996.

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There are also people who voted Republican for no other reason than McCain is NOT black.
Are both types of voters racist? Or just those who voted for one particular candidate? Or neither?



Both exist and both are racist. Still, I find voting for someone because of their race a tiny bit less offensive than voting against someone because of their race. I'm not sure why I feel this way, but perhaps because the former speaks of pride whereas the latter speaks of hatred. Either way, I wish it didn't happen and I think the effects on this election were minimal, largely cancelling each other out.

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anybody that voted for color is a racist. i voted for McCain becuse i side with issues that McCain presented. there was some reporters that asked questions of people on the street that had no idea what Obama stood for or what his policies are. one of my wifes freinds voted for Obama and didn't even know who Biden was. the people that don't take the time to find out at least a little about the election have no right voting.

although i am republican and don't agree with Obama i still respect the ones that voted for him because they agree with his policies but have no respect for the people that voted not knowing the issues or even who was running for vice president.



+1 could not have said it better.

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HELL YES IT WOULD!!!

I just think in general that it does speak to the progress of America. I do not like Obama and am very happy the Dems did not get 60 seats in the Senate but I still have faith in my country and am proud that we have come such a long way on the issue of race. Some could argue it is a bit late but I say better late than never.

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anybody that voted for color is a racist.



I believe prejudice would be the correct word to use.

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the people that don't take the time to find out at least a little about the election have no right voting.



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Kerry got 88% of black votes in 2004. Gore got 90% of black votes in 2000. Clinton got 83% in 1992 and 1996.



Didn't even know that was collected as part of voting.

Can I get a report on how plumbers voted?;)
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anybody that voted for color is a racist.



I believe prejudice would be the correct word to use.

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the people that don't take the time to find out at least a little about the election have no right voting.



Yes they do.



legally yes morally no. the choice of voting for president is very important, almost the most important choice you could ever make, therefore voting without knowledge of the situation would be disservice to you and the country.

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legally yes morally no. the choice of voting for president is very important, almost the most important choice you could ever make, therefore voting without knowledge of the situation would be disservice to you and the country.



What about when that "knowledge" is based on bullshit chain emails that intentionally distort the facts about a particular candidate?

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>the people that don't take the time to find out at least a little about the election have no right voting.

Yes they do.

>legally yes morally no. the choice of voting for president is very important, almost the most important choice you could ever make, therefore voting without knowledge of the situation would be disservice to you and the country.

I can agree with that in theory, I just don't believe people are actually going to the voting booths that oblivious. There is something that motivated them to register, and something that motivated them to vote; and I feel that motivation is enough. Even if their vote was motivated by race, I still believe that they have some knowledge of their candidate even if they are not as informed as other voters.

IMHO, I believe that it is a greater disservice to not vote at all than to vote ignorrantly. Besides, its all based on preception and opinion anyways.
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>the people that don't take the time to find out at least a little about the election have no right voting.

Yes they do.

>legally yes morally no. the choice of voting for president is very important, almost the most important choice you could ever make, therefore voting without knowledge of the situation would be disservice to you and the country.

I can agree with that in theory, I just don't believe people are actually going to the voting booths that oblivious. There is something that motivated them to register, and something that motivated them to vote; and I feel that motivation is enough. Even if their vote was motivated by race, I still believe that they have some knowledge of their candidate even if they are not as informed as other voters.

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no alot of people vote that don't have a clue. i know people on this election that voted because obama was black and voted because obama wasn't bush and didn't know who biden was

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no alot of people vote that don't have a clue. i know people on this election that voted because obama was black and voted because obama wasn't bush and didn't know who biden was



Voting for Obama because he wasn't Bush (or McCain) is a perfectly valid reason. And the reason why he won.

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I don't think anyone has a right to judge how someone else makes a decision in this regard.
Is one's ignorance any better than anothers.

Would you say that people have no right to vote a partisan ticket because they may be ignorant of one of the candidates?

futhermore which of the following is more accurate.

I won't vote for Obama because he is a terrorist.
I will vote for Obama because he is black.
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I don't think anyone has a right to judge how someone else makes a decision in this regard.
Is one's ignorance any better than anothers.

Would you say that people have no right to vote a partisan ticket because they may be ignorant of one of the candidates?

futhermore which of the following is more accurate.

I won't vote for Obama because he is a terrorist.
I will vote for Obama because he is black.



niether one is good enough reason to vote. the problem with americans is that they are to lazy to do a little reserch into the facts. kinda like they want a paycheck for surfing the net and talking to friends.why do you think jobs are going overseas? it's cheaper over there and the people will work while they are at work. they are more productive. i've gotten rid of the lazy want to surf the net employees.
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no alot of people vote that don't have a clue. i know people on this election that voted because obama was black and voted because obama wasn't bush and didn't know who biden was



Voting for Obama because he wasn't Bush (or McCain) is a perfectly valid reason. And the reason why he won.



no it is not. what he stands for and what he wants to do is a valid reason. charles manson isn't bush either should we elect him?

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Right or Left you have to admit...it speaks volumes that Obama is the president elect. With only 13% of the voting population being black I think this has really shown where we are as a country.



No I don't (have to admit).

Honestly I think that a significant majority of voters voted racially and did not have an understanding of the politics, polices and potential outcomes involved.

I really didn't like either major candidate, and I think that BO's promised change will not turn out like people think it will. I believe that as he settles into office over the first 100 days, we'll see a swing back towards the middle in his polices.
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>the people that don't take the time to find out at least a little about the election have no right voting.

Yes they do.

>legally yes morally no. the choice of voting for president is very important, almost the most important choice you could ever make, therefore voting without knowledge of the situation would be disservice to you and the country.

I can agree with that in theory, I just don't believe people are actually going to the voting booths that oblivious. There is something that motivated them to register, and something that motivated them to vote; and I feel that motivation is enough. Even if their vote was motivated by race, I still believe that they have some knowledge of their candidate even if they are not as informed as other voters.

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no alot of people vote that don't have a clue. i know people on this election that voted because obama was black and voted because obama wasn't bush and didn't know who biden was



I know someone who admitted that he would never vote for a black regardless of party.
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Right or Left you have to admit...it speaks volumes that Obama is the president elect. With only 13% of the voting population being black I think this has really shown where we are as a country.



No I don't (have to admit).

Honestly I think that a significant majority of voters voted racially and did not have an understanding of the politics, polices and potential outcomes involved.

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Well, that significant majority would have to be white Caucasion voters, since blacks, hispanics, Pacific islanders, east Asians... are not significant majorities of the voters
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>the people that don't take the time to find out at least a little about the election have no right voting.

Yes they do.

>legally yes morally no. the choice of voting for president is very important, almost the most important choice you could ever make, therefore voting without knowledge of the situation would be disservice to you and the country.

I can agree with that in theory, I just don't believe people are actually going to the voting booths that oblivious. There is something that motivated them to register, and something that motivated them to vote; and I feel that motivation is enough. Even if their vote was motivated by race, I still believe that they have some knowledge of their candidate even if they are not as informed as other voters.

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no alot of people vote that don't have a clue. i know people on this election that voted because obama was black and voted because obama wasn't bush and didn't know who biden was



I know someone who admitted that he would never vote for a black regardless of party.



well then that guy is racist and probably shouldn't be voting because electing a president is to important to have race be the deciding factor.

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