Amazon 7 #126 November 26, 2008 Quoteby the way, was it not racist and sterotyping to use "good ole boy"? I think it was. Nope You have shown your thinking to be flawed before...as is the case now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #127 November 26, 2008 QuoteThose who know me... do not consider me to be a liberal... This is Speaker's Corner. You're either a pansy, leftist, unwashed liberal, or a Bible-thumping, darkie hating, right-wing conservative. As Stephen Colbert would say, "Pick a side, we're at war!" - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #128 November 26, 2008 Quotebut it is ok for another black to say boy or nigger? this politically correct shit is really starting to be fucking anoying. put a smile on you face, have a good day, and fuck what you think something means and accept it the way it was meant. just about anything can be twisted to be offensive. what are we supposed to do, shut our mouths and sit in a corner or would that be considered offensive also? Do you not understand the word "context"?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #129 November 26, 2008 I am VERY well armed.... bring on the war Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RB_Hammer 0 #130 November 26, 2008 Quote Quote Quote I'll start: - boy - niggardly What else? Can we talk about fried chicken and watermelon, or would that be racist too? Context John. It's all about the context. Even the most benign words are profoundly offensive if used within the context of what a reasonable adult would see as having the obvious intent of being offensive. If a person refers to Obama as a "boy" then yes, that person is being intentionally racially offensive whether he wants to admit it or not, whether he attempt to explain it away as a reference to his "youth" or not. There is simply no way a reasonable adult can interpret it otherwise. You're an adult. I can't believe a reasonable adult doesn't know it's offensive to call another adult black male a "boy." There's simply no other way to look at it. Bull shit +1 Boy in reference to McCain is ok, but not Obama...bullshit describes it just about right."I'm not lost. I don't know where I'm going, but there's no sense in being late." Mathew Quigley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,008 #131 November 26, 2008 >but it is ok for another black to say boy or nigger? So you think "boy" and "nigger" are similar in this regard. John, I rest my case. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #132 November 26, 2008 Quote>but it is ok for another black to say boy or nigger? So you think "boy" and "nigger" are similar in this regard. John, I rest my case. It was rested before you started as you had no point to begin with........."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #133 November 26, 2008 Quote HEY.. nice PA Quote #41, from Amazon, a rabid liberal, having nothing to do with ignoring the Constitution: Those who know me... do not consider me to be a liberal... I don't know you, but I heard you've had your shots, so you likely aren't rabid, either. but just in case, please don't bite. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #134 November 26, 2008 QuoteJohn -- Sometimes you type things and I know you mean to communicate something, but it just comes out as gibberish. Your last post made no sense whatsoever. The banned Obama word list was just an unrelated sideline - sorry if that confused you. Here's the meat and potatoes: You: "If a person refers to Obama as a "boy" then yes, that person is being intentionally racially offensive whether he wants to admit it or not, whether he attempt to explain it away as a reference to his "youth" or not. There is simply no way a reasonable adult can interpret it otherwise." Me: "Then I can only conclude that you are not a "reasonable" adult." There is no way you can make such a statement with any validity about what another person's intent might be. You can't read his mind. Since you tried to make an absolute statement about something you can't possibly know, then you aren't reasonable. And one of the things that all you race-mongers keep conveniently forgetting is that I said "your boy" (two words), referring to Obama as someone that the person approved of and voted for. It's you race-mongers that keep crying about "context", while ignoring it yourself to try and suggest that I called Obama a "boy", by omitting the actual two-word phrase and associated vernacular definition. Where's that context in your analysis? How ironic! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #135 November 26, 2008 QuoteAnd there is nothing to disagree with. Obama's birth certificate was already vetted and ruled upon by a lesser court. This will go no where because there is no issue. Well I guess if lower courts never make mistakes, then we should help reduce federal spending by just eliminating all those useless higher courts. U.S. Courts of Appeals, Appellate Districts, those things all take a lot of money. Then there's those Supreme Court guys - now there's an expensive operation. There's no need for anyone to ever appeal a lower court verdict, right? So we should get rid of everything else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 806 #136 November 26, 2008 You do realize those of us in the south are prone to refer to a man as "boy" no matter their color, size, religious preference, or the state they came from, don't you? I've been called "boy" by black guys before, including Georgia cops for that matter...you're saying I should have been offended? Or does this only apply the other way around? I never for a second thought of this as a racist comment. There are stronger, harsher words reserved for that purpose and I heard those plenty growing up in the south. My generation (I hope) has tried to change that a great deal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #137 November 26, 2008 QuoteQuoteThe only thing racist here is your presumption that my use of the word "boy" was intended to be racist. I'd be more inclined to believe you if I'd seen you refer to Bush as "boy" over the years. The fact of the matter is that Obama is not a child, but he is black, thus a racist intent is inferred by your slur. You can infer whatever you like, but that don't make it right. Hey, we can't call half-black Obama "man" either, because the term "the man" means someone who wields power in an oppressive manner. And you can't use that word with all-white Bush either, because "the man" is synonymous with an establishment "whitey". So if you were to ever say "your man Bush", then I'm going to be duty bound here to call you out as a racist. So be careful! Gosh, all this race-mongering over innocent usage of the English language sure is fun. It's going to be an entertaining next four years watching you over-sensitive Obama grammar cops try to eliminate certain words from the common language. I just hope that Obama is niggardly with his budget. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #138 November 26, 2008 QuoteThen there is the pattern of severe and rather unhealthy obsession to tear the man down outside of political issues. That's ironic, coming from you, with your propensity to hurl personal insults instead of discussing the issues. QuoteSorry JohnRich, you only have yourself to blame for people thinking you lean this way. I don't care what you think of me. But I hope that this conversation will make you think about how stupid it is to call someone a racist because of a single word or phrase they used in a sentence. Here is definition #1 from the Urban Dictionary for the phrase "your boy":1. A good friend 2. Your favorite person/role modelThat's the common street language meaning for the phrase "your boy". Now, what's racist about that? Since you are enraptured with Obama, I think it's fair to say that he is one of your favorite people and role models, and therefore it's fair to call him "your boy". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #139 November 27, 2008 QuoteBWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.. another case of a good ole boy... This is just too good. You have been calling me a racist for using the term "your boy", and now you turn right around and use the phrase "good ole boy". Well guess what - you're the proverbial pot calling the kettle black. If "your boy" is a bigoted statement, then "good ole boy" is just as bad. You're clearly trying to imply that he's some kind of ignorant country redneck, just because you don't agree with him. Tsk tsk - I love watching the grammar police get busted for violating their own laws. This is especially humorous because this "your boy" phrase is something that you yourself have used frequently in these forums. See the proof here: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=search_results&search_forum=all&search_string=%22your+boy%22&search_type=AND&search_fields=sb&search_time=&search_user_username=amazon&sb=score&mh=25 So you obviously are familiar with what the vernacular meaning of that phrase is, and you've used it often in reference to a white man. So now all of a sudden when someone else uses it in reference to a half-white man, you think it's racist all of a sudden? Ha! Don't look now, but you just made yourself look foolish for doing the very same thing for which you are criticizing others. Eat crow, Amazon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #140 November 27, 2008 BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA Carefull John.. doncha be fallin off that big ole high horse of yours... You have referred to yourself that way.... whats a girl to think.... Back atcha.. bubba Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #141 November 27, 2008 Quotewhat are we supposed to do, shut our mouths and sit in a corner or would that be considered offensive also? That's exactly what the liberals want - if they can eliminate criticism by calling people racists, so be it. Just wait till they get their hands on implementing the "fairness doctrine"... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #142 November 27, 2008 Quote>but it is ok for another black to say boy or nigger? So you think "boy" and "nigger" are similar in this regard. John, I rest my case. That quote didn't come from me. It would appear that in your zeal to brand me as a racist, you have become blind to the facts. Sort of just like what racists do. How ironic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #143 November 27, 2008 QuoteQuoteThen there is the pattern of severe and rather unhealthy obsession to tear the man down outside of political issues. That's ironic, coming from you, with your propensity to hurl personal insults instead of discussing the issues. If pointing out things like outdated POVs, illogical thoughts, lies, spins, misinformation, and calling out the people who pass them on as factual now counts as a personal insult....well, color me guilty. I never said you were racist btw. I said your pattern of posting and your overall attitude makes the assumption easier and I can see how someone could jump to that conclusion. But there I go again pointing out the obvious. I'm sure you will claim that is a PA as well. Speaking of which, did anyone else see what I found on the website from the OP? It's a whackjob website guys. We probably gave it more traffic in the last week than it's ever had._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOSTandCRAZY 0 #144 November 27, 2008 Bush was born in Texas. If you go back far enough, that was FRANCE. Bush is therefore, French. NOT AMERICAN. French. They owned the land. I'm sure his family bred with some, so he must be one himself. Based on the idiotic, 6th grade logic you guys are using, it MUST be true. I think that if you have an IQ under 125, you shouldn't be allowed to vote. We need to make THAT an amendment, it may be a good way to get the churchies and racists out of our lives for good. Bottom line? Obama WON. WON. So you can keep Texas where it is. Personally, I voted you guys out of the Union when you banned Ozzy from performing there."Get these balls!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #145 November 27, 2008 QuoteYou do realize those of us in the south are prone to refer to a man as "boy" no matter their color, size, religious preference, or the state they came from, don't you? There's also the fact that Obamer is 47 years old, and it's quite common for older people to refer to any man younger than themselves as a "boy". So if someone 60-years-old called Obamer a boy, it's not necessarily because he's a racist, it's because the older guy considers the younger man to still be a "boy", in a figurative sense. Ah, but it's so much more fun to call people racists when they disagree with you. So let's just dispense with all this common sense vernacular, and get on with the name-calling! The proper response by the Obamites, should be something like this; "Who you callin' 'boy', you honky mutherfucker!" There, that's much better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOSTandCRAZY 0 #146 November 27, 2008 Yeah yeah yeah, call it what you like. I'd prefer you call Barack Obama "Mr. President". That's the respect he deserves. Save "boy" for your family. I don't refer to President Bush as "child killer", "asshole", "idiot", "dipshit", or anything else that his wife probably calls him in a good domestic dispute. (You Frenchies (Texans) are known for those, I've seen "Cops".) You Frenchies really are in denial aren't you? The worst thing about Ozzy pissing on the Alamo? He forgot the REST of the state."Get these balls!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #147 November 27, 2008 QuoteBack atcha.. bubba I'm sorry, but you can't use the word "bubba" in conversation. It's bigotry at it's worst, and I simply won't stand for it. Any reasonable man can clearly see this for what it is. You should be ashamed of yourself for so flagrantly exhibiting your bigotry in this manner. I would be happy to respond further, but since I don't know your race or ethnicity, I cannot yet properly formulate any further politically correct sentences. Please respond with info about your race and ethnicity, so that I will be able to properly carry on a conversation with you, while avoiding the use of terms which you may find offensive due to your genetic lineage. Thank you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOSTandCRAZY 0 #148 November 27, 2008 And he still won't reply to any of MY comments. Cannon-fodder, this Frenchie. President Obama is probably "more white" than you are, which furthermore saves us from having to barr the inbreeding, and is definatley more-qualified to run the country than you are. Texas, I forget, why are you guys so proud of a place that you were accidentally born? What, you were chosen to be born there? By who? GOD? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm gonna buy myself, and Ozzy, a KEG OF BEER, and we're gonna pollute that whole state. I make a pledge: I WILL PISS A LINE, FROM ONE END OF TEXAS (along I-40) TO THE OTHER END, BEFORE I DIE, SO HELP ME GOD! Who's with me???"Get these balls!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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JohnRich 4 #150 November 27, 2008 QuoteQuoteThat's ironic, coming from you, with your propensity to hurl personal insults instead of discussing the issues. If pointing out things like outdated POVs, illogical thoughts, lies, spins, misinformation, and calling out the people who pass them on as factual now counts as a personal insult....well, color me guilty. No, it's really more things like: Does it come with a complementary tinfoil hat? ... Talk about sore losers. Nah, just losers. I look forward to tuning in to the irrational and unlogical rantings of Hannity the Puppet Oh look. A broken record. Drop this bullshit. It's dumb and insulting. Give me a second, I need to hold on to the wall here from how quick you are spinning this. I guess seeing that level of maturity can be a bit shocking. Get off your high horse BUT HIS NAME RHYMES WITH OSAMA!!!!!!! Have you read the application at all or are you going off NRA talking points again? Does that tinfoil hat begin to smell after wearing it for this long?And all of that is just from today. Is this your idea of being logical and factual? Do you want me to go back further, or are you embarrassed enough already? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites