Butters 0 #26 November 20, 2008 QuoteIf it is obvious that we made them extinct I agree, but if nature decided to kill something off then let it be. What is "nature"?"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #27 November 20, 2008 QuoteJurrassic Park anyone? More like McDonalds, anyone? It's not ludicrous - they started serving Buffalo in restaurants in Colorado years ago. If they reproduce enough Mammoths, there will be industries for Mammoth game hunting (maybe with a spear and a cliff?), and there will eventually be a market for Mammoth Burgers. Whatever living thing that humans produce, they will eventually try to eat.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #28 November 20, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteKind of like introducing a non-native species into a habitat. Yes exactly, I think we are a bit over confidant. I truly do not believe that we know the true implications of such actions, and introducing a new species that has been extinct might produce problems that we have not even thought about. Introducing wheat to North America was a good thing, no? Admittedly not much good has come from introducing barley to the same. Yes your right, and corn yummmm to other parts. So its not black and white. I don’t know precautions are in order I guess.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #29 November 20, 2008 No more food source for the animal, temp differences, disease, loss of habitat by natural causes. Basically stuff that we didn't do. But then again aren't we a force of nature as well? Good question.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #30 November 20, 2008 skydiving with your pet Trex. that would be AWESOME I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #31 November 20, 2008 Quote If it is obvious that we made them extinct I agree, but if nature decided to kill something off then let it be. Well first you need to define what you mean by "nature decided". I would guess that many recent extinctions could be traced to man made changes that lead to it, either by introducing a non-native species, changing the habitat, hunting or whatever. Or do you consider man (and their activities) to be natural? Quote Here is a question. Lets say they just cloned a river dolphin who would be its parent? How would you train or teach it what it would normally learn from its parents? Dunno, that's one for the biologists, I'm no expert. That's probably why a Mammoth would be viable, Elephants are close enough to do the job. Maybe there is another river Dolphin species that would be suitable parents. But it would be nice to ask the Elephant/Dolphin what they thought first. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #32 November 20, 2008 Quote...they started serving Buffalo in restaurants in Colorado years ago. If they reproduce enough Mammoths, there will be industries for Mammoth game hunting (maybe with a spear and a cliff?), and there will eventually be a market for Mammoth Burgers. Whatever living thing that humans produce, they will eventually try to eat. But in that process of making something commercially profitable, therein also lies the motivation and money to make the species succeed and thrive. We have no shortage of cows and chickens, do we? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #33 November 20, 2008 QuoteBut then again aren't we a force of nature as well? I believe humans are animals and animals causing other animals to go extinct is part of evolution (which is "natural")."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #34 November 20, 2008 QuoteI believe humans are animals and animals causing other animals to go extinct is part of evolution (which is "natural"). Interesting. Is global thermonuclear war natural? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #35 November 20, 2008 QuoteQuoteBut then again aren't we a force of nature as well? I believe humans are animals and animals causing other animals to go extinct is part of evolution (which is "natural"). True. However us going extinct because we changed the environment would also be 'natural.' To say something is natural is not the same as saying it is desirable. Famine, disease, pestilence, being eaten by a polar bear are all examples of natural things that I would not consider desirable. Of course individual preferences may vary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #36 November 20, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteBut then again aren't we a force of nature as well? I believe humans are animals and animals causing other animals to go extinct is part of evolution (which is "natural"). True. However us going extinct because we changed the environment would also be 'natural.' To say something is natural is not the same as saying it is desirable. Famine, disease, pestilence, being eaten by a polar bear are all examples of natural things that I would not consider desirable. Of course individual preferences may vary. Agreed. My point was that "natural" should not be used as an argument for or against something ..."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #37 November 20, 2008 QuoteBringing those species back would just be undoing a recent fuck up, wouldn't it? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If it is obvious that we made them extinct I agree, but if nature decided to kill something off then let it be. The Mammoth and Mastodon did not die off all that long ago.. There is more than enough evidence that MAN had a hand in it Humans have had a VERY large impact on many species in the last 20,000 years Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #38 November 20, 2008 QuoteIf it is obvious that we made them extinct I agree, but if nature decided to kill something off then let it be. I would go so far as to say that the dinosaurs were not killed by nature. An asteroid did that. Many of the dinosaurs weren't unviable as species - just unlucky. So resurrecting dinosaurs wouldn't be a crime against nature. But it probably would make insurance premiums go up.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #39 November 20, 2008 QuoteSo resurrecting dinosaurs wouldn't be a crime against nature. But it probably would make insurance premiums go up. Come on man... the Flinstones have shown the way... brotosaurus burgers. Remember the rack of ribs at the drive in that tilts the car over??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #40 November 20, 2008 What if we clone up a mammoth & then just have a HUUUGE barbecue? Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #41 November 20, 2008 Quote Come on man... the Flinstones have shown the way... brotosaurus burgers. Ya know, as a vegetarian, I'm not all that into the resurrect-old-species-so-we-can-eat-them mentality. The fossilized plants that I see in flagstone around here just don't look that tasty Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #42 November 20, 2008 I think I derive from the Coneheads school of thought and desire massive quantities of dead animal parts several times a week. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
