rehmwa 2 #51 November 24, 2008 QuoteShooting someone after the event is NOT protection it's revenge. depends on who you're protecting - the initial victim or the next victim or the initial victim from a repeat event of course, that job should be the responsibility of the justice system - the only reasonable way for me to justify that kind of shooting would be to keep a criminal from escaping - but that's a good reason. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #52 November 24, 2008 [email]Quote> When you kill a man who is no threat to you or your wife because you want him dead for what he did (whether or not you are rationalizing it as "he'll never do that again!") it is a vigilante killing. You are attempting to be judge, jury and executioner No Woman should ever have any respect for any man including her own Husband that would sit on his ass and do nothing. I would think it should give a Lady pause, and she should reconsider her relationship with a man who is not up to the task of protecting her. I guess the women living on the LEFTwest coast have come to this conculsion and have deemed it safer to just lay back and try to enjoy the Rapping because there are no MEN left with the BALLS to be MEN living in and amoung them. isn't funny how the women want it both ways? this guy was fucked from every angle. his wife was cheating on him, lied to him, and now if he stood back and did nothing he would be a coward or if he did something he is put in the murderer / vigilante catagory. this guy was put in a hopeless situation and acted in what is probably looked at buy most in texas as a guy that did right by his wife. the only one to blame here is the wife and she alone should bear the responsibility for the outcome. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #53 November 24, 2008 QuoteSo it's O.K by you for someone to be killed because you THINK a crime has been committed.... and a Non-Capital crime too? If your wife yelled rape...Would you just sit back and watch? QuoteHe did not use his weapon to stop a crime being committed, he executed some one after a POSSIBLE crime had been committed. He used his weapon to stop a crime. His wife lied about it being a crime. But he walked up to see his wife getting nailed by another guy and she cried rape. How was he supposed to know it was not a rape?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #54 November 24, 2008 QuoteI take it, then, that in murder for hire situation you'd be OK if the hit-men get off scot free . No....but I think you know the difference between trying to stop a crime and being hired to commit one."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #55 November 24, 2008 QuoteJust like the death penalty! Not exactly (I'd say) because that would follow due process (not that I agree with capital punishment either). (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #56 November 24, 2008 QuoteThanks but if I feel that I am about to be a victim I will ventilate the bastage myself. Why is it OK for you to do it, but not someone who cares about you??????"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #57 November 24, 2008 QuoteThanks but if I feel that I am about to be a victim I will ventilate the bastage myself. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Why is it OK for you to do it, but not someone who cares about you?????? Because I am responsible for my actions.. not the actions of others. I thought that is what you guys always preach....dont you follow that whole personal responsiblity dogma?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #58 November 24, 2008 QuoteBecause I am responsible for my actions.. not the actions of others. So if you saw someone else getting rapped you would do nothing? Or would you help? QuoteI thought that is what you guys always preach....dont you follow that whole personal responsiblity (sic) dogma?? Yes, I do believe in personal responsibility. I also believe in helping those that ask for my help and helping those that need my help. So, if the person being rapped is not able to defend themselves...You would do nothing?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #59 November 24, 2008 Quote So, if the person being rapped is not able to defend themselves...You would do nothing? I hate being rapped. And to think the rappers have the nerve to call it MUSIC!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #60 November 24, 2008 QuoteSo, if the person being rapped is not able to defend themselves...You would do nothing? I do not make judgements on a persons musical tastes. Personally it hurts my ears and protect myself accordingly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #61 November 24, 2008 (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 806 #62 November 24, 2008 funniest thing I've ever seen you say.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #63 November 24, 2008 Fair care to answer this: "No....but I think you know the difference between trying to stop a crime and being hired to commit one. ""No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #64 November 24, 2008 Fair.. Care to answer this? Or just attack a mistyped word? QuoteBecause I am responsible for my actions.. not the actions of others. So if you saw someone else getting rapped you would do nothing? Or would you help? QuoteI thought that is what you guys always preach....dont you follow that whole personal responsiblity (sic) dogma?? Yes, I do believe in personal responsibility. I also believe in helping those that ask for my help and helping those that need my help. So, if the person being rapped is not able to defend themselves...You would do nothing?""No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #65 November 24, 2008 QuoteQuoteI take it, then, that in murder for hire situation you'd be OK if the hit-men get off scot free . No....but I think you know the difference between trying to stop a crime and being hired to commit one. Is adultery a crime in Texas?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #66 November 24, 2008 QuoteSo, if the person being rapped is not able to defend themselves...You would do nothing?" I am sure you really do believe that.. you would be wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #67 November 24, 2008 QuoteIs adultery a crime in Texas? No, but rape is. He was told she was being raped. Again, care to answer the question...Do you not recognize a difference between stopping a crime and being hired to commit one?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #68 November 24, 2008 QuoteQuoteIs adultery a crime in Texas? No, but rape is. He was told she was being raped. Again, care to answer the question...Do you not recognize a difference between stopping a crime and being hired to commit one? So there was no crime except the homicide, and the trigger man got off. OK.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #69 November 24, 2008 QuoteI am sure you really do believe that.. Actually, I do not think you would stand by and do nothing. As much as you think I hate you...I don't. As much as you think I do not respect you in some areas...You would be wrong there as well. I don't agree with some of your opinions. And I disagree with your tactics like name calling when you disagree with people....But, outside of that, I do think you are honorable in almost every other parameter. That is why I don't understand why you have an issue with this guy. I could see you doing almost the exact same thing if someone said they were being raped in front of you."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #70 November 24, 2008 Quote That is why I don't understand why you have an issue with this guy. I could see you doing almost the exact same thing if someone said they were being raped in front of you. Let me assure you that I do not believe that a round in the back of the head was in any way justified....that is the problem that I have with the guy and the culture that says its ok in the first place. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #71 November 24, 2008 QuoteSo there was no crime except the homicide, and the trigger man got off. OK. Still avoiding the question huh? Would it kill you to be honest just once and not dodge simple questions? Rape is. He was told she was being raped. Do you not recognize a difference between stopping a crime and being hired to commit one? If so, then your other bit was nothing more than an emotional distraction."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 806 #72 November 24, 2008 The local authorities didn't call it homicide did they? So there wasn't a homicide. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,006 #73 November 24, 2008 >So there wasn't a homicide. And OJ Simpson didn't murder his ex-wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #74 November 24, 2008 QuoteThe local authorities didn't call it homicide did they? So there wasn't a homicide. How many legs does a dog have if the local authorities call a tail a leg?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #75 November 24, 2008 QuoteQuoteSo there was no crime except the homicide, and the trigger man got off. OK. Still avoiding the question huh? Would it kill you to be honest just once and not dodge simple questions? Rape is. He was told she was being raped. Do you not recognize a difference between stopping a crime and being hired to commit one? If so, then your other bit was nothing more than an emotional distraction. There was NO rape. There was NO crime to stop. If I tell someone that you are robbing me does that entitle them to shoot you dead?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
