Bush says bible probably not literally true

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The Mayan calendar has many divisions of time: months of 20 days, years of 360 days, katun of 7200 days and a baktun of 144,000 days. Their calendar started on 3114-AUG-13 BCE with the birth of Venus. They expected the world to last for exactly 13 baktun cycles. They anticipated the end of the world near the Winter Solstice of 2012.

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They anticipated the end of the world near the Winter Solstice of 2012.

Shortly after the next presidential election. I can't wait for the political ads next election

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Just how many times was the world supposed to have ended by now?

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I think we could just set up a big show in the valley of Armageddon, complete with angels, 4 horsemen, the Beast with 7 heads, special effects, celebrity guests, live music, refreshment/souvenir/t-shirt booths, etc.

It's in the desert so there'd be plenty of free parking.

Well ACTUALLY... the Israelis have done quite a lot with irrigation of the Jezreel Valley below Megiddo. Its not desert anymore

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found this on internet, funny:

Most date setters do not realize mankind has not kept an unwavering record of time. Anyone wanting to chart for example 100 BC to 2000 AD would have contend with the fact 46 BC was 445 days long, there was no year 0 BC, and in 1582 we switched from Julian Years (360 days) to Gregorian (365 days). Because most prognosticators are not aware of all these errors, from the get go their math is already off by several years.

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I think we could just set up a big show in the valley of Armageddon, complete with angels, 4 horsemen, the Beast with 7 heads, special effects, celebrity guests, live music, refreshment/souvenir/t-shirt booths, etc.

It's in the desert so there'd be plenty of free parking.

Well ACTUALLY... the Israelis have done quite a lot with irrigation of the Jezreel Valley below Megiddo. Its not desert anymore

Then we can throw in a water-park! COOL!

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so did Blair

Actually that was just Bush with his hand up Blairs arse.

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I think we could just set up a big show in the valley of Armageddon, complete with angels, 4 horsemen, the Beast with 7 heads, special effects, celebrity guests, live music, refreshment/souvenir/t-shirt booths, etc.

It's in the desert so there'd be plenty of free parking.

You've just described Burning Man

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This will be the 62nd WEEK ( of years) of Daniel's prophecy, and either shortly before or shortly after New York City and Washington are wiped off the map, a very large asteroid will hit in mid Atlantic, causing enormous problems to the east coast of North America and the west coast of Europe.

He actually said this? I thought we mocked him with the Deep Impact scenario.

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both intelligence services said it was definite WMD. It looked like a quick easy war and thats how it started, but then the occupation was mis handled, for way too long. would it have been better if we never went in? don't know. won't know for about 20 - 50 years in history book.

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both intelligence services said it was definite WMD. It looked like a quick easy war and thats how it started, but then the occupation was mis handled, for way too long. would it have been better if we never went in? don't know. won't know for about 20 - 50 years in history book.

Do you honestly believe that ?? I'm of the opinion, that was the plan all along.

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Do you honestly believe that ?? I'm of the opinion, that was the plan all along.

Yup. As much of an idiot as Bush is, he knew what he was doing.

To think that by the US going in, killing Sadam and then hanging out for a few months was going to change anything....well that was just stupid.

He should have taken the hint from senior. Get in and then get out. But then again, senior actually had a halfway valid reason for sending us over there. There was a clear plan. Once we accomplished the mission, we left. Well, we did get to leave some folks in Saudi after.

WMD my ass. Bush belongs in jail for what he has done to this country. I mean that Literally

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both intelligence services said it was definite WMD. It looked like a quick easy war and thats how it started, but then the occupation was mis handled, for way too long. would it have been better if we never went in? don't know. won't know for about 20 - 50 years in history book.

Ummm - no. There was significant conflicting evidence which was downplayed by the administration.

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Well, we did get to leave some folks in Saudi after.

We had forward bases in Saudi Arabi before the gulf war. Afterwards, we had some small forward bases in Bahrain and Kuwait. I still believe that we wanted bases in the middle east we had absolute control over. We don't with those countries listed above.

Then we could install one of our pupetteer goverments and "Do as we pleased". History has alredy shown how well that has worked.

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Ummm - no. There was significant conflicting evidence which was downplayed by the administration.

they never had proof, it was a lie from the start.

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would it have been better if we never went in? don't know

yes it would have. this war serves no purpose. none. well at least no good one

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Then we could install one of our pupetteer goverments and "Do as we pleased". History has alredy shown how well that has worked.

your right about that. we are not going to change that part of the world....... ever.

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remember Colin Powell, he even believed ther was WMD. He was against the war. Hussein kept acting like he had them hidden, he said before he was hung, so Iran would think he had WMD. he thought bush was bluffing about full fledged war.

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yes it would have. this war serves no purpose. none. well at least no good one

Although I was, and still am, against the Iraq war, I don't think it was a complete loss. Saddam Hussein was killed - he was a bad guy, and I'm not sorry to see him dead. There's no way in Hell it was worth 4,000 American lives, 3 trillion dollars, and many countless innocent Iraqi lives (many children included). But at least he's dead.

The worst part is that the guy we should have been chasing (OBL) is still very much alive. I hope Obama makes good on his promise to find him and kill him.

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Yes, definite plan to have a military base there. with a pro u.s. govt. which is starting to stabilize right now. patraeus pushed for more troops and it worked. but i think the low action now is because they know we have new leader who has said he is pulling out all troops. thats what they want. all non muslim out of their country. thet wish we would leave saudi, but i dont think that will happen until we dont need th oil

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>remember Colin Powell, he even believed ther was WMD.

Not really - at least, not to the extent that most other people did. While he was preparing for his speech at the UN, he was given updated intelligence "proving" that WMD's existed. "I'm not reading this crap!" he said, as he tossed the intelligence aside.

Colin Powell was a career soldier who was obeying the directives of his commander-in-chief. He tried to talk him out of this ill-conceived war. But when it came time to do his job, he did it. I can't fault him for that any more than I can fault a pilot that bombs a civilian wedding because he was given faulty coordinates.

>he thought bush was bluffing about full fledged war.

Certainly not towards the end. As we got more and more serious, he stopped dicking around with UN inspectors and let them see whatever they wanted. He knew what might be coming.

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Hans Blix, the chief U.N. weapons inspector, reported to the U.N. Security Council that Iraq still had not accounted for banned weapons, including huge stocks of anthrax and nerve gas. Blix also reported that two versions of Iraq's al Samoud 2 missile exceeded the maximum range of 150 kilometers (93 miles) established by the Security Council.

These findings were sufficient cause to declare Iraq to be in violation of U.N. Security Council 1441, which the Security Council passed by a unanimous vote on November 8, 2002 to give Saddam Hussein one "last chance" to avoid war.

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remember Colin Powell, he even believed ther was WMD.

I guess you didn't read his book.

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Hans Blix, the chief U.N. weapons inspector, reported to the U.N. Security Council that Iraq still had not accounted for banned weapons, including huge stocks of anthrax and nerve gas. Blix also reported that two versions of Iraq's al Samoud 2 missile exceeded the maximum range of 150 kilometers (93 miles) established by the Security Council.

These findings were sufficient cause to declare Iraq to be in violation of U.N. Security Council 1441, which the Security Council passed by a unanimous vote on November 8, 2002 to give Saddam Hussein one "last chance" to avoid war.

And in March 2003 Blix (UNMOVIC) reported to the UN that Iraq was cooperating, the VX and anthrax disposal sites were being inspected, their missiles were being destroyed, and that complete verification of compliance would only take a few more months. At which point Bush ordered Blix to leave.

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remember Colin Powell, he even believed ther was WMD.

Colin Powell was lied too. Why do you think he stepped down? In my opinion he is a stand up guy. He was the Joint Chief of Staff while I served during the Gulf War. He had learned many lessons from Vietnam as well. Mainly, that we can not occupy a country like that again and that we had a defined mission during the gulf war. Once the mission was accomplished, we got out. End of story

I think that he was given false information. Once he realized that he was lied to, and as a result lied to the rest of us, he resigned. I believe that he has admitted that (not in those exact words of course).

What we have now is a situation that we can not win.

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I don't think it was a complete loss. Saddam Hussein was killed - he was a bad guy, and I'm not sorry to see him dead.

Was that really a good thing? Of course he was an evil man and deserves to rot in hell for all the people that he killed while in power. But he did provide one thing.......stability. You wait, as soon as we (if we ever) leave Iraq, someone much worse then him will take power away from the supposed Govt. that we are helping set up over there.

They are just biding their time. When we leave, the fundamentalist will take that country over and we will have a brand new enemy even more dangerous then Bin Laden.

All we have done over there is loose American lives, spend Trillions of dollars and stir up a hornets nest.

Our government has made fools of us all and our standing in the world is shite because of this man, who never should have won his first election in the first place and created a war to scare us into voting for him a 2nd time. To many people in his administration that have private interest in oil for me to believe otherwise.

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