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I'm just .... saddened by what seems to me to be a hypocritical stance by many.

Violence is bad. Bush is bad.

But... violence against Bush is ok?



Yes. An eye for an eye. Isn't that the "American tongue" and behavior?

Hypocritical? That "kind of violence" looks well-defined to me. Just funny.

Bush - he's the hypocritical one but, he's a brave one. Going to the country he still is destroying/killing shows either bravery or arrogance.

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>If someone threw something at me with the intent of hitting me... I would
>consider that violent.

OK. In that case, I am a victim of violence every weekend at the drop zone! I guess I have a higher threshold than you do.



Acts done in anger with intent of harm are different than acts of drunken misbehavior. (but... nice that you got the snipe in there about how your threshold is higher.... whatever that really means?)

It wasn't just a verbal insult. It wasn't just waving the sole of his shoe. He pitched it up there to strike him. Had President Bush not ducked, he would have been thunked in the head. Major injury, no. And I'm not saying that it would have been. But it was a physical act directed toward another that had seemed to have the intent of hitting him with it.

Do you guys SERIOUSLY believe that this should be condoned, encouraged, laughed with.... "cuz it's just a shoe" or "cuz it's GWB"?

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I personally don't care either way. Still the "WTF?" look on GW's face after the 1st shoe is priceless, IMO. I would hope that if our goverment actually understands and respects the Iraqi customs, that we might finally get a clue about our foriegn policy. Not likely though.
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Why is this "funny"?

Because you don't like the White House policies, it's ok to laugh at this situation of attempted violence?

OK... so you justify it because it was a shoe. Or the "insult" of the sole of the shoe is amusing.

Let's reverse this.

If Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Kamel al-Maliki were to come to the US for this signing of the agreement, and a (lets play on the stereotypes here) FOX reporter throws something at the PM here. How funny would that be?

I've said it before, encouraging violence is bad.



GWB is a lucky man. It only were shoes. Not grenades or knives. Thanks to his security, of course.

Did he really expect to receive a warm welcome? Did you expect him to be received as a friend? [:/]

Come on. He surely is the most hated man for Iraqi folks... and deservedly so. :|

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And not too well liked at home by 79% of the populace. Now he's out kissing babies here and talking up his god and shit after killing a shitload in IRAQ. Fuckin man needs a trip to the Hague not just a size 10. Or maybe he does need a size 10 (inches) while he's rotting in prison.
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>Because you don't like the White House policies, it's ok to laugh at this
>situation of attempted violence?

I didn't think it was funny - but it also wasn't "attempted violence." It was the equivalent of throwing a tomato at someone. Had he gone after him with a bat, or thrown a brick, I'd agree with your assessment.



What's funny is now the dipshit has to walk around without shoes...and handcuffs.
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What's funny is now the dipshit has to walk around without shoes...and handcuffs.



I'll bet a lot of people would be happy to provide him with more shoes.
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Dude this is speakers corner. There are lots of people willing to supply shoes to anyone as long as the arguement continues.

It's very funny to me to come in here every so often and see people talking about how everyone else should think.

...and then bitch about how other people try to tell them what to think:D


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Why is this "funny"?

Because you don't like the White House policies, it's ok to laugh at this situation of attempted violence?



It's not funny because it's Bush, it's funny because he threw a shoe. There's a reason the shoe was RandomTask's weapon in Austin Powers. Seriously, who throws his shoe?

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I've said it before, encouraging violence is bad.



I doubt anyone is going to take to the streets assaulting passers by with random items of clothing because of this thread.
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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Dude this is speakers corner. There are lots of people willing to supply shoes to anyone as long as the arguement continues.

Really ?!? Could you PM me a list of contrbutors. I'm all about the swag. B|
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And not too well liked at home by 79% of the populace. Now he's out kissing babies here and talking up his god and shit after killing a shitload in IRAQ. Fuckin man needs a trip to the Hague not just a size 10. Or maybe he does need a size 10 (inches) while he's rotting in prison.



I am kind of surprised none of the other 21% has shown up yet demanding the death penalty for this attack upon their Glorius Leader

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And not too well liked at home by 79% of the populace. Now he's out kissing babies here and talking up his god and shit after killing a shitload in IRAQ. Fuckin man needs a trip to the Hague not just a size 10. Or maybe he does need a size 10 (inches) while he's rotting in prison.



I am kind of surprised none of the other 21% has shown up yet demanding the death penalty for this attack upon their Glorius Leader




You don't think that it's comments like that that might have driven some of them away?

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And not too well liked at home by 79% of the populace. Now he's out kissing babies here and talking up his god and shit after killing a shitload in IRAQ. Fuckin man needs a trip to the Hague not just a size 10. Or maybe he does need a size 10 (inches) while he's rotting in prison.



I am kind of surprised none of the other 21% has shown up yet demanding the death penalty for this attack upon their Glorius Leader

Probably still at church.......
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>nice that you got the snipe . . .

Hey, no need to get all defensive. People throw things at me; that's fine. People throw things at people they are annoyed/mad at too, and I think you also understand that it depends on what people throw that makes a difference.

I am certain that, if you had an acrimonious debate with someone at work, and they threw a several-page document at you, you would not call the police to report a violent assault. You would simply consider the action rude. Likewise, if you were singing for the Crack Choir in Lost Prairie, and someone who disliked you threw a tomato at you, you would likely not consider that a violent assault; you would likely just get annoyed at the person (and others would probably yell at him and douse him with beer at the very least.)

However, if someone threw a knife at you in a dark parking lot, you might well call the police and be quite justified in doing so.

I am also certain you can see the difference between the two.

>Do you guys SERIOUSLY believe that this should be condoned,
>encouraged, laughed with.... "cuz it's just a shoe" or "cuz it's GWB"?

Nope. For the third time, I don't think it's funny. It's just rude. You have to read my posts more closely, I think.

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Jeanne,
As I said before to speed. This is SC. Of the few times I've read here I can tell you what I know.

-no one hears the other person/side anyway.
-everyone likes to hear their own opinion...that just my opinion though.
-theres no reason for intelligent and open communication because people can just throw out scenarios of the other sides intent and others will jump in and agree that they are scumbags for that very scenario.

-then the other side reads and start defending their right to think how they wish to think.
-then each side tries to denounce the right for the other to have their own thought.

-someone uses a few harsh words
- a few warnings are divied
-then each team huddles in their corner and goes to a different thread to start the whole cycle over...


did I miss anything in the 9 times I stopped by to read a thread or two?
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