Skyrad 0 #601 January 13, 2009 Quote Live in peace or DIE in war. Yea, I think I saw that movie too.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #602 January 13, 2009 Quote You can pick and choose lines from Christianity and Judaism that are just as violent or illogical. But, we're talking here and now.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #603 January 13, 2009 Quote Morality is not comparative; it only compares action with belief. This sounds like a working definition of morality to me. I'm going to run with this one, going forward. Anyone dissent to this as a working definition?We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #604 January 13, 2009 Quote Because in my opinion the actions of Israel has created HAMAS. But the HAMAS mentality has existed long before Israel even existed. You're argument lost me here.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #605 January 14, 2009 Quote Why are they fighting? From falxori: Quote this is a dispute over land and over way of life. the fact that Hamas is ultra religions fantatic and sponsored by an insane regime like Iran doesn't help. but still it is not about religion. Quote Yea I don’t blame you for that I wouldn’t like anyone who wants me dead either. I just think the reason they might not like you or Israelis has a lot more to do with the actions of your government, then you being Jewish or them being Muslim. You have never answered this question. Why won't Egypt open their borders with the Gaza Strip?We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #606 January 14, 2009 Quote Not quite. They violated the terms of the ceasefire with Hamas almost immediately afterwards. The latest ceasfire (Jun. 19, 2008) had as a condition that the Israelis open all border crossings and "allow the transfer of all goods that were banned and restricted to go into Gaza" two weeks after the beginning of the ceasefire. They didn't. Why isn't Egypt opening their borders?We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,994 #607 January 14, 2009 >Why isn't Egypt opening their borders? I don't know. Why isn't the US opening their borders? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #608 January 14, 2009 Quote What is it about so many Americans that makes you only see 'Good guys' and 'Bad guys'? Get a grip. I see any that do this, in violation of their government's laws, to be bad guys. You asked what the difference was - I said one has law against it, the other has a war strategy built around it. If Israel commonly does this, there would be plenty of press around it. It's a good story that would sell well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #609 January 14, 2009 QuoteQuote Not quite. They violated the terms of the ceasefire with Hamas almost immediately afterwards. The latest ceasfire (Jun. 19, 2008) had as a condition that the Israelis open all border crossings and "allow the transfer of all goods that were banned and restricted to go into Gaza" two weeks after the beginning of the ceasefire. They didn't. Why isn't Egypt opening their borders? Because the last thing they want is Sharm El Shiek filled with desperate Palastinians and escaping Hamas fighters.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #610 January 14, 2009 Quote>Why isn't Egypt opening their borders? I don't know. Why isn't the US opening their borders? Which prompts the follow up - then why should Israel do so? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,994 #611 January 14, 2009 >Which prompts the follow up - then why should Israel do so? ?? I didn't say they should. They should, however, honor the details of the ceasefire if they expect it to endure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #612 January 14, 2009 QuoteYou have never answered this question. Why won't Egypt open their borders with the Gaza Strip? already did. it must on one of these pagisI'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #613 January 14, 2009 Quote already did. it must on one of these pagis I can't find that, nor do I recall you directly answering that question. Care to repeat your response?We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #614 January 14, 2009 Quote Quote already did. it must on one of these pagis I can't find that, nor do I recall you directly answering that question. Care to repeat your response? Do you really think you can get a direct answer? I hope you can but I can not hold my breath this long"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #615 January 14, 2009 Keep going..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #616 January 14, 2009 Quote Keep going..... It took all my will power to NOT spray my keyboard with beer when I opened the attachment. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #617 January 14, 2009 Quote Keep going.....[/reply LOL "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #618 January 14, 2009 Quote Quote Keep going..... It took all my will power to NOT spray my keyboard with beer when I opened the attachment. Same for me LOL"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #619 January 14, 2009 QuoteQuote already did. it must on one of these pagis I can't find that, nor do I recall you directly answering that question. Care to repeat your response? Wow first I have to say I am so happy that so many people are holding their breath just to see what I have to say. I appreciate that because what I say doesn’t just happen over night it actually has a lot of research and real life experience behind it. So I am very happy that you guys realize the value in it especially in a sea of garbage that spews from so many mouths (or fingers) Thank you To your question which was answered in the other lets trash Muslims thread. Sorry I lost track there are so many from the same people It’s hard to follow or really give a shit about all of them. QuoteWill in this incident you hear two different things. The Egyptians say there borders are open to help with Humanitarian needs, there is also reports that the border is not as open as the Egyptians claim. Also i would like to add. Just because they are Arab they are responsible? Do we need to take care of all of Europe’s issues because most are from that ancestry? Egypt is not the ones killing the Palestinians you can try to shift blame just because people have the same ancestry or claim some sort of responsibility but it is kind of a ridiculous notion. I have said it before the reason I feel the way I do about the Palestinians has nothing to do with them being Arab, or Muslim. I am not Arab. But before I relate to any thing religion, race, creed I do remember that I am humane and there are some things that are inhumane. That we all should speak out against. I don’t see the relation of ancestry or race to having some responsibility? I do however think we are all responsible for the humane race and to not make excuses or exceptions to things that should never be accepted by any of us. That’s a concept that some will never grasp and that’s because they live cozy lives and are clueless. As I have said many times before these are usually the same ass holes who will ask for a manager if there coffee is not hot enough or sue if its too hot. I fucking hate ass holes who think children diying is funny as long as no one fucks with their kid. I think Bills answer is a great one (if you get it). The same reasons no country just opens their borders to every one. The fact that anyone would expect them do (just because there arab) as stated before a ridiculous notion as they are not the ones committing atrocities.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #620 January 14, 2009 QuoteI think Bills answer is a great one (if you get it). The same reasons no country just opens their borders to every one. The fact that anyone would expect them do (just because there arab) as stated before a ridiculous notion as they are not the ones committing atrocities. But yet, Israel is supposed to just throw the doors wide, in your opinion. Do you honestly not see the cognitive disconnect in your own words, Darius?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,994 #621 January 14, 2009 >But yet, Israel is supposed to just throw the doors wide, in your opinion. Ah. So you think Gaza is a country, and those checkpoints are on Israel's borders? This may explain some of your confusion on this subject. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #622 January 14, 2009 QuoteEgypt is not the ones killing the Palestinians you can try to shift blame just because people have the same ancestry or claim some sort of responsibility but it is kind of a ridiculous notion Uh Darius dear.. you do realize the Egyptians were butt fucking the Palistinians for several Millenia before your ancestors got their chance .. right??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #623 January 15, 2009 Quote>But yet, Israel is supposed to just throw the doors wide, in your opinion. Ah. So you think Gaza is a country, and those checkpoints are on Israel's borders? This may explain some of your confusion on this subject. Nice tapdancing, Bill - do you practice that on your breaks?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,994 #624 January 15, 2009 >Nice tapdancing . . . Still confused, I see! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #625 January 15, 2009 Quote>Nice tapdancing . . . Still confused, I see! Not at all - but continue to believe whatever makes you feel better.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
