akarunway 1 #1 January 12, 2009 No hands free. Nothing. What's next. You can't yell at the kids while driving or talk to a passenger. Or yourself? http://wjz.com/local/safety.council.cell.2.905514.html This world is getting crazier every day. I still drive and talk on the phone (when I need to) and drink a cup of coffee AND smoke a cig. ALL AT THE SAME TIME. No accidents in over 30 yrs. And I speed too! I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #2 January 12, 2009 QuoteThis world is getting crazier every day. Didn't you get the memo? You can not take care of yourself so we the GOVT will make laws for you. What a joke!If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #3 January 12, 2009 But moving map display GPS units are OK. I am all for banning hand sets. It truly amazes me how often I navigate around a driver who is clearly not paying attention and notice that they are on the phone. I realize the research shows that the accident rate goes up with hands free sets, but it also goes up if you are having a conversation with someone present in the car. 90%+ of my driving is with me alone in the car. I am constantly amazed at how much poorer a driver I am when there is someone else in the car. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #4 January 12, 2009 QuoteTotal ban on cellphone use while driving Hallelujah. I think that’s a great idea. Drive now talk later. I can't stand drivers who have their phone up to their ear and they are never paying attention to the road.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #5 January 12, 2009 I find it hard to believe that any honest person can say their driving doesn't deteriorate, in some form, while talking on a cell phone - or dealing with any distraction in the vehicle really. I know mine does. IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #6 January 12, 2009 We should take the radios/cd/mp3 players out of the cars too. Maybe my driving may be affected when I use a hands free set but not to the point where I crash into shit. Its like talking to someone who is in the passenger seat. Except when someone is sitting in my passenger seat I occasionally look at them I don't do that while using a hands fre device.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #7 January 12, 2009 QuoteIts like talking to someone who is in the passenger seat. Except when someone is sitting in my passenger seat I occasionally look at them I don't do that while using a hands fre device. It's nothing like that. Having a passenger, while it can be distracting, is also another set of eyes. I've had my wife, and others over time, help me prevent an accident because they noticed something I didn't mid-conversation. I've done the same to them, while they were driving. Sorry, but it's not even CLOSE to the same thing. IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #8 January 12, 2009 Side note: Expecting people to be responsible with cell phones while driving, is like expecting people to be responsible with canopy flight in the same airspace. Both work well in theory, neither work in the real world when plain old ego's come into play. IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #9 January 12, 2009 QuoteI find it hard to believe that any honest person can say their driving doesn't deteriorate, in some form, while talking on a cell phone . . . I think it depends a lot on the subject matter and interactive nature of the phone call. Simply listening to a piece of information isn't really the issue. For instance, listening to music seems to have almost no effect whatsoever, but formulating a response, that seems to be the real issue.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #10 January 12, 2009 I recently read a lengthy article on some research that has been done. Some points that stuck out: - Cell phone usage distracts a driver *much* more than listening to radio/music-player. - Cellphone usage distracts a driver *much* more than other people talking in the car. - They believe that the cellphone is much more distracting because the user is under pressure to immediately respond to the other party and is thinking about that response instead of thinking about driving. Radio/music-player/passengers can be tuned out as background noise. I do a lot of cycling, and I get damned tired of drivers pulling out right in front of me WHILE LOOKING DIRECTLY AT ME, with a vacant, glassy-eyed stare and a cellphone pressed to their head.I'm all for a cellphone ban on use while driving. "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaRusic 0 #11 January 12, 2009 QuoteI find it hard to believe that any honest person can say their driving doesn't deteriorate, in some form, while talking on a cell phone - or dealing with any distraction in the vehicle really. I know mine does. Ian I agree 100% people need to get off the damn phone when driving. Mythbusters also proved it lowers ur driving ability. I was driving my motorcycle when the woman in the lane next to me decided to take my lane without looking......she was talking on a cell phone.....my horn didnt get her attention but my foot in her door sure did when she nearly pushed me into on coming traffic.The Altitude above you, the runway behind you, and the fuel not in the plane are totally worthless Dudeist Skydiver # 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #12 January 12, 2009 QuoteQuoteThis world is getting crazier every day. Didn't you get the memo? You can not take care of yourself so we the GOVT will make laws for you. What a joke! Uh, the difference is, it's not like making you wear a seat belt so I don't kill you, it's making you put the damn phone down so you don't kill me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #13 January 12, 2009 While agree with a ban using mythbusters as a source of significant research is silly. It's ENTERTAINMENT! There scientific method is use more explosive.And yes I watch it. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #14 January 12, 2009 Quote For instance, listening to music seems to have almost no effect whatsoever, I remember speeding a lot to music in my youth. Music certainly has effect. The argument, once again, is that using a cell phone is like drunk driving, and 80% of us are using phones on the road. Yet the body count isn't remotely the same. IOW, the claim is bullshit. A key difference is that you can put the phone down, either for the moment or until you're on an open freeway. The drunk person is always impaired. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #15 January 12, 2009 Quote I was driving my motorcycle when the woman in the lane next to me decided to take my lane without looking......she was talking on a cell phone.....my horn didnt get her attention but my foot in her door sure did when she nearly pushed me into on coming traffic. This has been a problem for bikers long before cell phones came along. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ion01 2 #16 January 12, 2009 Numerous tests, and mythbusters, have shown that talking on a cell phone is worse than drunk driving. Also, if it was only an issue of taking care of ones self then the government should stay out of it, however, this is not the case. Just like drunk driving is against the law because it effects and kills other so to with cell phone usage while driving. If people only killed themselves while driving and doing these things thats fine but that is not the case. If you make a poor decision on the road it almost always effects other people who were making good decisions and that is what is wrong. PS. Driving is a privilege...not a right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #17 January 12, 2009 QuoteQuote For instance, listening to music seems to have almost no effect whatsoever, I remember speeding a lot to music in my youth. Music certainly has effect. The argument, once again, is that using a cell phone is like drunk driving, and 80% of us are using phones on the road. Yet the body count isn't remotely the same. IOW, the claim is bullshit. A key difference is that you can put the phone down, either for the moment or until you're on an open freeway. The drunk person is always impaired. Yeah, well, sometimes perception really is reality. It's because we gain much of our knowledge by living the anecdotes of our personal experience. Damn near everyone has had the experience of some twat on a cell phone cutting them off without a turn signal, or trundling along in the left lane, oblivious to traffic. Once that happens a bunch of times, you start to realize the correlation. It's like when I taught my older kid to drive, I taught her to be extra-cautious around pickup trucks in traffic, because their drivers are more likely than average to drive like assholes. After she'd had her license for about a year, she told me, "Gee, Dad, that really is true!" * * (Apologies to my friends with pickups. You're not assholes. Just stop driving like one.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #18 January 12, 2009 Quote Quote For instance, listening to music seems to have almost no effect whatsoever, I remember speeding a lot to music in my youth. Music certainly has effect. Perhaps on a certain emotional level, but not so much on a cognitive one. In other words, it might make you more "excited" but it doesn't make you more "stupid." At least as long as you're not listening to country or rap. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #19 January 12, 2009 QuoteI find it hard to believe that any honest person can say their driving doesn't deteriorate, in some form, while talking on a cell phone - or dealing with any distraction in the vehicle really. I know mine does. Ian text messaging on a pager is even worse. I do my best to avoid it, but once in a while when traffic is light and I really need to, I'll do short quick messages, otherwise I pull over."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #20 January 12, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuote It's like when I taught my older kid to drive, I taught her to be extra-cautious around pickup trucks in traffic, because their drivers are more likely than average to drive like assholes. After she'd had her license for about a year, she told me, "Gee, Dad, that really is true!" I have noticed that too. Hell, I've had more run-ins with stupid rednecks driving pickups than anything else, but I have also noticed more than a few sporty cars driven by assholes. Then there's the occasional crotch rocket rider that pulls up next to me, does a wheelie, and zooms off in the distance, then there's the asshole 18 wheeler that rides your bumper so close you can't see nothing but the grille, when I'm stuck in a long line of vehicles. There's one in every crowd, but I'll agree with your statement about the pick ups, especially around here in central Alabama."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #21 January 12, 2009 Quote Quote Quote For instance, listening to music seems to have almost no effect whatsoever, I remember speeding a lot to music in my youth. Music certainly has effect. Perhaps on a certain emotional level, but not so much on a cognitive one. In other words, it might make you more "excited" but it doesn't make you more "stupid." At least as long as you're not listening to country or rap. It's probably true that texting while driving increases the odds of my accidentally killing someone, but listening to country while driving would increase the odds I'd kill someone on purpose. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #22 January 12, 2009 How did you people ever get along before the development of the affordable cell phone? ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #23 January 12, 2009 Quote I still drive and talk on the phone (when I need to) and drink a cup of coffee AND smoke a cig. ALL AT THE SAME TIME. No accidents in over 30 yrs. And I speed too! I have a waffle maker and a small hot plate - cooking eggs and bacon and waffles, WHILE talking on the phone, drinking a soda and pitching pails of used cig butts on those driving smokers' windshields - while on the computer and reading posts from here and working an air traffic control station. All this while speeding backwards with the windows covered in ice and snow. so there Edit: at least I could do this until the freakin' state legislature decided to ban bacon cooking while on the interstate stupid commies ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #24 January 12, 2009 Quote ...... ALL AT THE SAME TIME. No accidents in over 30 yrs. And I speed too! Did you ever look in your mirror and see the carnage that you left behind? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andrewwhyte 1 #25 January 12, 2009 Quote Did you ever look in your mirror and see the carnage that you left behind? "The first rule of Italian driving; Whatsa behind you, don'ta matter." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next Page 1 of 6 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
livendive 8 #21 January 12, 2009 Quote Quote Quote For instance, listening to music seems to have almost no effect whatsoever, I remember speeding a lot to music in my youth. Music certainly has effect. Perhaps on a certain emotional level, but not so much on a cognitive one. In other words, it might make you more "excited" but it doesn't make you more "stupid." At least as long as you're not listening to country or rap. It's probably true that texting while driving increases the odds of my accidentally killing someone, but listening to country while driving would increase the odds I'd kill someone on purpose. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #22 January 12, 2009 How did you people ever get along before the development of the affordable cell phone? ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #23 January 12, 2009 Quote I still drive and talk on the phone (when I need to) and drink a cup of coffee AND smoke a cig. ALL AT THE SAME TIME. No accidents in over 30 yrs. And I speed too! I have a waffle maker and a small hot plate - cooking eggs and bacon and waffles, WHILE talking on the phone, drinking a soda and pitching pails of used cig butts on those driving smokers' windshields - while on the computer and reading posts from here and working an air traffic control station. All this while speeding backwards with the windows covered in ice and snow. so there Edit: at least I could do this until the freakin' state legislature decided to ban bacon cooking while on the interstate stupid commies ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #24 January 12, 2009 Quote ...... ALL AT THE SAME TIME. No accidents in over 30 yrs. And I speed too! Did you ever look in your mirror and see the carnage that you left behind? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #25 January 12, 2009 Quote Did you ever look in your mirror and see the carnage that you left behind? "The first rule of Italian driving; Whatsa behind you, don'ta matter." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites