Which Right Wing Patriotic Militia groups will your local "conservatives" flock to

[Amazon 7]

So .. are we going to have a big jump in militia numbers on the far right like when Clinton was elected???

How soon will be the first new Oklahoma City incidents by our own home grown right wing domestic terrorists patriotic defenders of american values.

[airdvr 210]

http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/nto.htm

No Terrorists on the Left

This is not a recent development. Left-wing terrorists have always been the major terrorist threat in the United States. In the FBI's 1996 report on terrorism in the U.S., the bureau mentions both right-wing and left-wing terrorists, but notes: "Over the last three decades, leftist-oriented extremist groups posed the predominant domestic terrorist threat in the United States."

The report went on to state that the collapse of the Soviet Union and the bureau's success in breaking up some of those groups had reduced the threat. But within five years the assessment was different. In its official terrorism report for 2000/2001, the FBI singled out environmental radicals as a major source of domestic terrorism, but did not mention right-wing groups at all.


Are you talking about these guys?

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[Amazon 7]

Nah.. we are talking about THESE guys.

http://www.militianet.org/

They are the ones who drape themselves in patriotic slogans

Want to bet who they voted for in the last election???

[AggieDave 6]

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Want to bet who they voted for in the last election???

Andrew Jackson? Since you know, if he contracted the "rabies" and reanimated, I'd still vote for him.

(I'm not sure if you've read World War Z or not, so you may not quite get the reference).

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Nah.. we are talking about THESE guys.

http://www.militianet.org/

They are the ones who drape themselves in patriotic slogans

Want to bet who they voted for in the last election???

Ron Paul ?

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So .. are we going to have a big jump in militia numbers on the far right like when Clinton was elected???

How soon will be the first new Oklahoma City incidents by our own home grown right wing domestic terrorists patriotic defenders of american values.

Depends on the nature and extent of FBI/ATF raids on the citizenry. If FBI snipers go killing wives and babies, expect an increase. If the press gets invited to gunfight raids on churches, expect and increase.

And if a "well regulated militia" is the requirement, well, that's the left just making a double dog dare.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[airdvr 210]

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So .. are we going to have a big jump in militia numbers on the far right like when Clinton was elected???

How soon will be the first new Oklahoma City incidents by our own home grown right wing domestic terrorists patriotic defenders of american values.

Depends on the nature and extent of FBI/ATF raids on the citizenry. If FBI snipers go killing wives and babies, expect an increase. If the press gets invited to gunfight raids on churches, expect and increase.

And if a "well regulated militia" is the requirement, well, that's the left just making a double dog dare.

Can you say Janet Reno?

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[gravitysurfer 0]

I'm not going to "flock" to any group. I'm just going to "cling to my guns and my religion".

aloha.

[pirana 0]

Well, we don't have much around here that would qualify as right wing militia groups. The closest thing might be the varsity football coaches, the volunteer fire department, . . . maybe the Girl Scouts. Those are all pretty conservative organizations, . . . not very militant though.

But they all do have a pledge, and all like to wear uniforms, and all sell snacks once a year to raise money. I take that back, the volunteer fire department is running the beer concession at this year's ice fishing contest.

Does beer count as a snack?

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

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Are you talking about these guys?

No, I suspect she referring to guys like William J. Krar of Tyler Texas, who pled guilty to possessing chemical weapons.

Krar was affiliated with right-wing, anti-government, white-supremacy groups. Among Krar’s seized weapons cache, in a Texas self-storage unit, were 2 homebuilt sodium cyanide (NaCN) munitions: combining 800 g sodium cyanide + strong oxidizing acids in old ammo box to generate cyanide gas (HCN) or cyanogen chloride (CNCl). Each improvised chemical device (“ICD”) would be (hypothetically) capable of killing almost 6,500 people via percutaneous exposure based on lethal dose for 50% of population (LD50), which for a variety of logistical reasons is an unlikely scenario; or kill 1/2 the people in a 9 x 40 x 40 ft^3 enclosure in one minute (inhalation).

Krar also had homemade landmines and a remote-controlled “briefcase device ready for explosive insertion,” i.e., IEDs; 67 pounds of Kinepak solid binary explosives (ammonium nitrate); 66 tubes of Kinepak binary liquid explosives (nitromethane); military detonators; trip wire; electric and non-electric blasting caps; and cases of atropine syringes (i.e., the antidote for nerve agent exposure (!)).

Krar was interdicted because he sent a package containing fake birth certificates (from multiple states), driver’s license, concealed weapons permit, a DoD DIA badge, and a UN badge -- all with the same picture & different names -- to the wrong address on Staten Island … along with a note: “Hope this package gets to you O.K., we would hate to have this fall into the wrong hands.” The inadvertent recipients opened the package and rather than forwarding it to another right-wing, anti-government, white-supremacy affiliate, New Jersey Militia member Edward Feltus, the folks called the police who called the FBI.

Krar eventually pled guilty to building and possessing chemical weapons and was sentenced to 11y/3months in federal prison.

When I give talks on terrorism, to be somewhat intentionally provocative (also helps make sure the audience is still awake ), I call it my personal vote for the most under-covered story of 2003 and semi-facetiously state that if Krar’s first name was “Ahmed” or “Mohammed” instead of "William," AG John Ashcroft would have been leading press conferences.

VR/Marg

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[miked10270 0]

This isn't really fair you know...

We don't have any Right-Wing-Patriotic groups over here.

Well... We do have the BNP, but they don't have any sexy stuff like Guns and WMDs. They mostly don't even have hair!

What they do have is jeans that don't fit (I NEVER wear jeans), tasteless suspenders to keep their ill-fitting jeans up, and Oxblood Doctor Martens with yellow stitching.

The whole ensemble is so unbearably tastless you need an IQ solidly in the negative range to wear it.

also, with the global recession it's becoming impossible to buy a decent black shirt in the shops here.

So I suppose I'm stuck with being a Non-National-Socialist.

Mike.

Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable.

Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode.

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I'm not going to "flock" to any group. I'm just going to "cling to my guns and my religion".

Don't forget to be "bitter"

Seriously, I wonder what the White supremacist groups are thinking/planning.
I had heard that they were going to vote for Obama so that the "revolution" would start sooner. (That may not be true, but I am not joking).

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Seriously, I wonder what the White supremacist groups are thinking/planning.
I had heard that they were going to vote for Obama so that the "revolution" would start sooner. (That may not be true, but I am not joking).

With as many of them out there as there are, hundreds of groups, who are appalled at the thought of a black man in the white house, I think the Secret Service is going to be very very busy for the forseeable future.

Personally I dont think he will live thru his 4 years. America is to full of those who WILL seek to eliminate him.

[Andy9o8 2]

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Krar

Figures it would be a Klingon.

[billvon 3,008]

Hmm. And with so many right wingers talking about leaving the country when Obama was elected, I am surprised there's been no exodus! Maybe they will wait a bit longer; that way they can leave the moment he is inaugurated and the US collapses into a terrorist muslim socialist anti-skydiving, mandatory gay marriage dictatorship.

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Hmm. And with so many right wingers talking about leaving the country ...

Hmmm... Perhaps it'll be simplest if Texas & Sonora simply swap populations. I don't somehow see The Disgruntled heading up into The Union of Socialist Commie Canuckians with their lack of humour.

Mike.

Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable.

Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode.

[Amazon 7]

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And with so many right wingers talking about leaving the country when Obama was elected, I am surprised there's been no exodus! Maybe they will wait a bit longer;

I used to suggest they would be well served to go to Uruguay or Paraguay. Bush supporters would have felt right at home under a ALFREDO STROESSNER government. Sadly for them... the leftists have taken over in both countries... BUT there is hope... they can always get in on the ground floor of a right wing coup in eihter place.

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Hmm. And with so many right wingers talking about leaving the country when Obama was elected, I am surprised there's been no exodus! Maybe they will wait a bit longer; that way they can leave the moment he is inaugurated and the US collapses into a terrorist muslim socialist anti-skydiving, mandatory gay marriage dictatorship.

You mean like all the left wingers that were going to leave?

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[Amazon 7]

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You mean like all the left wingers that were going to leave?

No.. they stayed and overthrew the corrupt and inept right wing junta.

[FallingOsh 0]

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You mean like all the left wingers that were going to leave?

No.. they stayed and overthrew the corrupt and inept right wing junta.

...and immediately started appointing their own corrupt group of geniuses...

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[Ron 10]

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Personally I dont think he will live thru his 4 years. America is to full of those who WILL seek to eliminate him.

I have more faith in humanity and the Secret Service than you do.

I suspect (and hope) that this prediction of yours falls flat like this one has (so far):

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To me it will either happen or it will not...

Personally.. I think its on the way and the Bush Administration has set the stage nicely for its coming..


http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2871089;search_string=Bush%20law;#2871089

This one seems to have failed big time:

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What makes you think he will actually leave office....

He will have to stay to protect us from the evildoers after the next big terrorist strike on the US... MArtial Law... and no elections.

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2631649#2631649

And you made that same claim here:

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I guess we will see what your right wing lord and master has in store for us in the next couple years huh.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[Amazon 7]

Thankfully I am glad that those things did not come to pass...... Had they I have a feeling that a LOT of Americans would have been taking up arms against a government that had lost faith with its people.


I think far more Americans now believe they are a part of America. That can only make this a better country.... a country of inclusion rahter than your party of division and exclusion.

[billvon 3,008]

>You mean like all the left wingers that were going to leave?

Yep. Funny how the same extremists say the same things year after year.

[Ron 10]

You were doing so well till you had to get petty.

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than your party of division and exclusion.

I was almost shocked that you were able to avoid name calling and BS in a post...Then you did it.

Oh well. I hope Obama lives up to the hype.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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You were doing so well till you had to get petty.


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I was almost shocked that you were able to avoid name calling and BS in a post...Then you did it.

Oh well. I hope Obama lives up to the hype.

You really do hate it when a diamond is pointed out to be a diamond... and a club is called a club.

I am VERY confident that Rove and Cheney et al were fully capable of pulling that kind of crap. I am glad they did not get a chance to prove me right.

I am also quite confident that a few of you here would have been telling all of us how it would have been good for the country