Congressional Democrats Put $$$ in Rush's Pocket

[billvon 3,000]

>Exactly, the media mostly dont feed on their own.

Ah! So the media is protecting Rush. Got it.

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>Exactly, the media mostly dont feed on their own.

Ah! So the media is protecting Rush. Got it.

YOU said he was not from the media not me! And he is not

That is why the media leaves their own alone. Not Rush huh?

You need to find a new source to get info on Rush seeing as how you have this need to trash him.

And seeing how you like to trash him you should at least get him on something he really has said, (you know, in the proper context) not the "info" you posted today!

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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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[billvon 3,000]

>YOU said he was not from the media not me!

That was sarcasm. I didn't seriously think there was anyone in the US who would actually make the silly claim that Rush Limbaugh was not part of the media.

What's next? Is Sarah Palin not a politician because she can see Russia from her house? Is Ann Coulter not a political commentator because she's blonde? (She is, you know.)

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At least as afraid as the right is of Olbermann and Franken.


Has the RCCC tried such a stunt? And Franken's not a comedian anymore. He's an elected official. Well, sort of.

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Exactly, the media mostly dont feed on their own.

That really is too bad they cant feed on good ole Lush Rimjob...... there is a whole lot of lard there that could be put to better use.

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>YOU said he was not from the media not me!

That was sarcasm. I didn't seriously think there was anyone in the US who would actually make the silly claim that Rush Limbaugh was not part of the media.

What's next? Is Sarah Palin not a politician because she can see Russia from her house? Is Ann Coulter not a political commentator because she's blonde? (She is, you know.)

On the blonde thing, are you sure???


Actually I think Sarah will make a great Pesident of the Republic of Alaska.. at the head of the AIP. Then she can get all the foreign affairs policy exerience she needs.

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>bill, he DID say that.

Here is his exact quote:

"Okay, I'll send you a response, but I don't need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails."

He seemed pretty clear that his statement was exactly four words long.

that was one quote. if you listened to him talk a little bit, you would know exactly what he means by that. if you refuse to listen to him long enough to understand what rush wants obama to fail at, then you're not being honest.

anyone who has listened to him a little bit on this subject will know that rush believes obama wants to turn america into a socialist nation. guess what, if that's the case, i want him to fail too.

if obama's agenda is to push a hard socialist agenda, do YOU want him to succeed?

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[JohnRich 4]

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Welcome to the sort of world you prefer.

That does not follow from what I said. Nor is it true.

Now that you're having to walk a mile in the shoes of those in power, it appears that you could dish it out to others before, but now you're having difficulty taking it yourself.

Who will they blame? Rush Limbaugh!

[Amazon 7]

Have you ever looked up the amount of socialism we already have in this country... One could even argue that the military itself is socialistic in nature.

Are you willing to live thru a depression???

[FallingOsh 0]

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Have you ever looked up the amount of socialism we already have in this country... One could even argue that the military itself is socialistic in nature.

That's the slippery slope argument that so many use against socialist programs. "But we already did that so let's do this. Well we're already trying this so let's add that." Just because we have roads doesn't mean we need to add billions more in government handouts.

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Are you willing to live thru a depression???

If I had to choose between socialism and a depression, I'd take the depression. The rediculous amount of money being burned to try and save the economy hasn't worked. Now we're (the dems) are throwing another $1T at it. It didn't work when Bush tried it last year. It's not working now. It won't work with another trillion. Leave it alone. Quit wasting money on pork claiming that'll it'll save us all. We're wasted billions, and soon trillions, and still suffering through a hefty recession. The economy will work through it's cycles with or without the government flushing money down the toilet.

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RUSH: I got a request here from a major American print publication. "Dear Rush: For the Obama [Immaculate] Inauguration we are asking a handful of very prominent politicians, statesmen, scholars, businessmen, commentators, and economists to write 400 words on their hope for the Obama presidency. We would love to include you. If you could send us 400 words on your hope for the Obama presidency, we need it by Monday night, that would be ideal." Now, we're caught in this trap again. The premise is, what is your "hope." My hope, and please understand me when I say this. I disagree fervently with the people on our side of the aisle who have caved and who say, "Well, I hope he succeeds. We've got to give him a chance." Why? They didn't give Bush a chance in 2000. Before he was inaugurated the search-and-destroy mission had begun. I'm not talking about search-and-destroy, but I've been listening to Barack Obama for a year-and-a-half. I know what his politics are. I know what his plans are, as he has stated them. I don't want them to succeed.

If I wanted Obama to succeed, I'd be happy the Republicans have laid down. And I would be encouraging Republicans to lay down and support him. Look, what he's talking about is the absorption of as much of the private sector by the US government as possible, from the banking business, to the mortgage industry, the automobile business, to health care. I do not want the government in charge of all of these things. I don't want this to work. So I'm thinking of replying to the guy, "Okay, I'll send you a response, but I don't need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails." (interruption) What are you laughing at? See, here's the point. Everybody thinks it's outrageous to say. Look, even my staff, "Oh, you can't do that." Why not? Why is it any different, what's new, what is unfair about my saying I hope liberalism fails? Liberalism is our problem. Liberalism is what's gotten us dangerously close to the precipice here. Why do I want more of it? I don't care what the Drive-By story is. I would be honored if the Drive-By Media headlined me all day long: "Limbaugh: I Hope Obama Fails." Somebody's gotta say it.

Were the liberals out there hoping Bush succeeded or were they out there trying to destroy him before he was even inaugurated? Why do we have to play the game by their rules? Why do we have to accept the premise here that because of the historical nature of his presidency, that we want him to succeed? This is affirmative action, if we do that. We want to promote failure, we want to promote incompetence, we want to stand by and not object to what he's doing simply because of the color of his skin? Sorry. I got past the historical nature of this months ago. He is the president of the United States, he's my president, he's a human being, and his ideas and policies are what count for me, not his skin color, not his past, not whatever ties he doesn't have to being down with the struggle, all of that's irrelevant to me. We're talking about my country, the United States of America, my nieces, my nephews, your kids, your grandkids. Why in the world do we want to saddle them with more liberalism and socialism? Why would I want to do that? So I can answer it, four words, "I hope he fails." And that would be the most outrageous thing anybody in this climate could say. Shows you just how far gone we are. Well, I know, I know. I am the last man standing.
I'm happy to be the last man standing. I'm honored to be the last man standing. Yeah, I'm the true maverick. I can do more than four words. I could say I hope he fails and I could do a brief explanation of why. You know, I want to win. If my party doesn't, I do. If my party has sacrificed the whole concept of victory, sorry, I'm now the Republican in name only, and they are the sellouts. I'm serious about this. Why in the world, it's what Ann Coulter was talking about, the tyranny of the majority, all these victims here, we gotta make sure the victims are finally assuaged. Well, the dirty little secret is this isn't going to assuage anybody's victim status, and the race industry isn't going to go away, and the fact that America's original sin of slavery is going to be absolved, it's not going to happen. Just isn't, folks. It's too big a business for the left to keep all those things alive that divide the people of this country into groups that are against each other. Yes, I'm fired up about this.

Reasons number 249 and 50 why I'm not a Republican. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel has been chosen to introduce Vice-President-elect Biden at a bipartisan dinner in Washington on the eve of the immaculation. Biden was one of Hagel's closest friends in the Senate. "Bipartisan dinners also held that night honoring McCain and Colin Powell. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina will introduce McCain at a dinner." So all these Republicans are being honored on the night before Obama is immaculately inaugurated, as though they're part of the Obama administration. Our presidential candidate is being honored. I can understand liberals honoring their losers, but I just -- (tearing up story)

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and his response *I happened to tune in to his show when he made these comments, after the original comment*

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RUSH: This morning, CNN, they have a beat reporter on me. Her name is Carol Costello. I'm her beat. Coanchor Kiran Chetry, introduction to... Wait a minute. This is not about Green Bay. This is about the Last Man Standing. This is about I want Obama to fail. I don't want Obama to fail; I want the country to succeed! I want Obama's policies to fail. But Obama's failure to implement his policies is good news, the best news possible for this country. That's all I'm saying. Okay, you want to hear one of the CNN bites? Okay, here's Kiran Chetry introducing the correspondent Carol Costello, the Limbaugh beat reporter, the pool reporter at CNN, on me.

CHETRY: Barack Obama has inspired millions to "hope," including Rush Limbaugh, only Rush Limbaugh hopes something very different. Let's listen.

RUSH ARCHIVE: Look, what he's talking about is the absorption of as much of the private sector by the US government as possible, from the banking business, to the mortgage industry, the automobile business, to health care. I do not want the government in charge of all of these things. I don't want this to work. So I'm thinking of replying to the guy, "Okay, I'll send you a response, but I don't need 400 words, I need four: 'I hope he fails.'"

CHETRY: All right, so is the Obama honeymoon already over for some die-hard Republicans?

COSTELLO: (snickering) Well, if you listen to Rush Limbaugh (haughty laugh), it certainly is! Let me ask you a question, though, Kiran. How long did your honeymoon period last after you got married? (cackling)

ROBERTS: It's still going, right? How many years has it been?

CHETRY: It's been eight, eight and still, you know, every day --

COSTELLO: Yeah, but that's not the honeymoon period. Some -- some people say their honeymoon period lasted as long as it took to walk down the aisle. Barack Obama, of course, is asking for a lot longer than that from Americans. The question is: Will he get it?

RUSH: Now, the question here is... By the way, this report was then used by another CNN reporter, Rick Sanchez who I even know and who I thought was professional. But Rick Sanchez obviously is not a professional journalist. I just explained in that bite everything I mean about why I want him to fail. There's no way to misunderstand this, but they get to those four words, "I hope he fails," and they ignore everything else I said in front of it. They actually put this in context. It is impossible for anybody at CNN to not understand what I was saying, yet they purposely took it out of context, and then Rick Sanchez, who... I wouldn't trust anything you see this guy do, if you even watch CNN, because he knows full well what was said and what was meant. He might have been assigned this by some editor, I don't know, but they don't care obviously at CNN to get it right. And it's all of course redounded to my benefit.
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Have you ever looked up the amount of socialism we already have in this country... One could even argue that the military itself is socialistic in nature.

Are you willing to live thru a depression???

a while back, bill von explained it much better than i ever could about the mix of socialism and capitalism that we have and why its necessary to have some socialism and how purely one way or the other is bad. we now have too much socialism in this country, and i'm going to put some of that blame on bush for pushing through the first bailout package. yes, the military is socialistic.

as far as willing to live through a depression, of course i don't want a depression, but if one happens, i'll live through it, as will almost everyone else. i just don't believe that this stimulus is going to stave one off if it is coming. the money is just going to come out way too fucking slow to get money moving around. if you want to get money moving, you have to put it in the hands of consumers, and the only way i agree with doing that is to not take it from them in them first place. they don't want to do that because they're afraid people will do terrible things like save it or pay off debt. WTF!?!? aren't we in this mess because people didn't save money and couldn't pay their debts?

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Have you ever looked up the amount of socialism we already have in this country... One could even argue that the military itself is socialistic in nature.

Are you willing to live thru a depression???

if it means not becoming a country like the ones we have been fighting against, then yes i will take a depression. Hard times shows who the weak are. the strong minded, strong willed always clime to the top in tough times and that is what we don't have running the country now. What we have now is weak liberals running the country that let the whining of a few dictate how this country is run, not to the betterment of the whole country but to apease a few lazy weak minded people that can't support themselves because they won't get off their asses and work themselves into independence. We are becoming a nation of whiners and welfare recipients that think they are entitled to whatever their nieghbor has.

Every day I see people that are on welfare and food stamps that won't work because they don't have to. They do have a big screen tv, $10k in rims on their cars, and spend their welfare check at the boat gambling, but we pay for their house, medical, and food.

With every bailout (welfare check) we give these people we make our nation weaker and more dependant on other countries. we as a nation are becoming a welfare nation dependant on other countries to survive and that will cost us dearly in the future.

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Every day I see people that are on welfare and food stamps that won't work because they don't have to. They do have a big screen tv, $10k in rims on their cars, and spend their welfare check at the boat gambling, but we pay for their house, medical, and food.

Do you really, no shit, see these people every day? What business are you in that these are the people with whom you associate?

- Dan G

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Every day I see people that are on welfare and food stamps that won't work because they don't have to. They do have a big screen tv, $10k in rims on their cars, and spend their welfare check at the boat gambling, but we pay for their house, medical, and food.

Do you really, no shit, see these people every day? What business are you in that these are the people with whom you associate?

I own a business that is right between the low income and middle class area of the city I am in. I have actually had one person tell me that they were saving their welfare check for gambling the next weekend and having to use it for car repairs ruined their weekend. The car is a 2001 denali with $7800 in rims and tires on it! The gambling boat in Joliet IL will cash your welfare check at the window (seen it done). the welfare system is being severly abused and needs major renovations to the programs.

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as far as willing to live through a depression, of course i don't want a depression, but if one happens, i'll live through it, as will almost everyone else. i just don't believe that this stimulus is going to stave one off if it is coming. the money is just going to come out way too fucking slow to get money moving around. if you want to get money moving, you have to put it in the hands of consumers, and the only way i agree with doing that is to not take it from them in them first place. they don't want to do that because they're afraid people will do terrible things like save it or pay off debt. WTF!?!? aren't we in this mess because people didn't save money and couldn't pay their debts?

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yes, the military is socialistic.

Can someone explain this one to me? I don't understand this argument. I was in for several years, getting paid to do a job that, IMHO, is one of the few legitimate expenditures of government. Are you saying that having a military is a socialistic policy?

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Mega Dittos!

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[DanG 1]

OK, so that is one example of someone with some pretty fucked up priorities.

I just don't think the implication that everyone who is on welfare is blowing their money on rims and craps is very accurate. When I was a kid, my family used food stamps for a short time. My father was working his way though law school. We had shitty old cars and a single black and white TV. I bet that a lot of people these days, in fact the vast majority, who are using government assistance actually need it and use it fairly wisely. They also, like we did, use it in emergencies and get off it as fast as possible.

I do, however, agree that the system can and is being abused by some people. I just think that the scale of it is not as widespread as you imply.

- Dan G

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OK, so that is one example of someone with some pretty fucked up priorities.

I just don't think the implication that everyone who is on welfare is blowing their money on rims and craps is very accurate. When I was a kid, my family used food stamps for a short time. My father was working his way though law school. We had shitty old cars and a single black and white TV. I bet that a lot of people these days, in fact the vast majority, who are using government assistance actually need it and use it fairly wisely. They also, like we did, use it in emergencies and get off it as fast as possible.

I do, however, agree that the system can and is being abused by some people. I just think that the scale of it is not as widespread as you imply.

and at what percent do you consider it to be a problem? I am just one business and have seen alot of this over the last 6 years. this countries liberal agenda is breading this kind of behavior and it will get worse with the liberals in the white house. nothing that has been done over the last 12 months has encouraged responsibility. everything has been spend and the government will bail you out. What message does that send to the people of america?

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nothing that has been done over the last 12 months has encouraged responsibility

It's been a lot longer than 12 months since long-term responsible financial behavior was encouraged by anyone. Including the last several administrations.

Any time a rebate check is sent out to people for them to spend. Any time people are encouraged to use credit for regular expenses (all those credit card ads). None of that is responsible.

The growth of advertising, and its ready access through the greater and greater permeation of everything by the paid media has a lot to do with why people spend so much money on crap.

Ronald Reagan probably started this round, with the live big and rich-is-good approach that he had. But it's not the first time -- just look at the first part of the 20th century, when there were definitely multiple classes of people, and it was admirable to live beyond your means.

It's not admirable to live beyond your means. That's true whether you're buying a new car, a new school, or a new battleship. The fact that we see so many people doing it on TV just makes it more likely for us to want what the Jones's have.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[billvon 3,000]

>The growth of advertising, and its ready access through the greater and greater
>permeation of everything by the paid media has a lot to do with why people
>spend so much money on crap.

Yep. Of course, our economy _depends_ on people spending so much money on crap, so "economic recovery" and "spending much less money on crap" aren't really achievable together.

[wmw999 2,453]

True dat. But maybe, just maybe, how we got to where we have to maintain an insane level of spending in order to be "economically healthy" is not the best of all possible paths.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[DanG 1]

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and at what percent do you consider it to be a problem?

It's a problem if even one person does it. It is not, however, realistic to blame all of our country's problems on that one person. Welfare abuse is wrong no matter how widespread it is, but fixing the welare system will not solve our current financial crisis. In fact, that guy spending money on his car and at the casino does more to stimulate the economy that if he put it in a savings account. The fact that he got the money from the government is not ideal, but at least that cash is circulating.

- Dan G