rehmwa 2 #51 February 13, 2009 QuoteWhy is dad the accountant going to be interesting? Interesting? not interesting - good role model and impact because Dad is in their lives every day, if he chooses, and can make that impact some celebrity will always be a poor substitute - the only question is whether the parents provide a need for the substitute ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #52 February 13, 2009 QuoteQuoteWhy is dad the accountant going to be interesting? Interesting? not interesting - good role model and impact He is a role model, but he's unlikely to be identified by the child as such until much later in life. There's no doubt that his actions have impact, but the child naturally will be looking to the outside for others. If he didn't, his development will be stunted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #53 February 13, 2009 QuoteParents are never going to replace rock stars and athletes are heroes. How can they? When I was a kid, people in Florida wanted to be astronauts and go into space. Because they were into science? No, because you were riding around in space, and you were the center of the media circus. Cool, fun job. Or cowboys? All day, riding a horse, hanging out with friends... fun. Spies? Traveling the world, racing exotic cars, hot chicks, money to burn. So, between being a hot-looking, rich, female rockstar and say... Supreme Court justice. Rockstar - all the guys chase the hot rock star chick. She has all kinds of money, lifestyle, and travel. All she does is sing and go to lavish parties. SC justice - go to college, then go to law school. Then, study and apply yourself through years of work... to be given more work. Rockstar... SC justice ? Hmm.... What a choice. Let's face it, being rich, for doing little but sing and party, sounds much more attractive than long, boring hours of work. Shall we wait for the Cosmo article on how to be a succesful heart surgeon? Last month, there was one on how to f- one properly. A-Fraud makes $6million a year. An accountant will never make that much in their life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #54 February 13, 2009 QuoteLet's get serious. Parents are never going to replace rock stars and athletes are heroes. How can they? Aside from being in the house 7/24 and therefore unable to control the image seen, they have to spend time working and being parents. Stars have nannies and their job is the reason kids admire them. A-Rod only plays baseball, so a kid who likes the sport will look up to him. For the kid who prefers football, he's more likely to look at someone like Larry Fitzgerald. Why is dad the accountant going to be interesting? Well, if that is what defines dad, that he is an accountant; then I'd agree. Sounds like from some of the comments here that some have given up. Parents don't need to try to replace celebrity worship; just raise children that do not worship celebrity. First step in doing that is to not worship it yourself. When I see a statement that we as parents can't possibly replace rock stars or athletes I think possibly it is too late. Seeing them as something that must be replaced implies that their is some principle (or at least specific beliefs) in place that causes the kids to have assigned them superhuman status to begin with. Like I said, it is learned. Kids do not automatically adore celebrities, the adore them because they see too many adults adoring them." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #55 February 13, 2009 QuoteParents don't need to try to replace celebrity worship; just raise children that do not worship celebrity That's really well put. Let's celebrate a good turn of phrase - a phrase turned well, leave the kids and wives at home and we'll go on in drinking and driving binge. to celebrate parenthood. Edit: the other bit is how ready people are to hold others (celebrity, politicians) to 'higher standards' but expect themselve to get a lot of slack. What the hell, let 'anyone' else raise our kids. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #56 February 14, 2009 rehmwa and pirana, You two are right on the money. Your kids are very fortunate.I do not have kids of my own but I know what you're saying due to my fantastic parents. My parents are mine and my 7 sibling's heroes (not to mention their 18 grandchildren). They have never let us down.BTW: They're going to be great-grandparents in June! _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #57 February 15, 2009 I really don't see a problem with kids having 'heroes', outside of their family. I do think, parents should advise their kids as to whether or not that 'hero' is worthy of their admiration. I had heroes when I was a kid and my folks knew who they were. they told me whether or not they were worthy of my admiration. Now days with so many kids growing-up in single parent homes, kids don't always get the proper guidance. Even in homes where both parents are present, the parents are too wrapped-up in their careers or whatever. Heroes can be of help to a kid, just as long as they are the 'good' kind. A good mix of influence from both inside the family and outside of the family can help a kid. As you say, the parents have to be involved in their kid's lives and be 'real' parents. As for Hannah Mylie Cyrus... if it weren't for her, her daddy wouldn't have a re-start to a dead career! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
