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this is a loosing battle, the koolaid is too strong, the left doesn't believe in hard work, pay your own way, and donate to things you care about. the left believes in government knows best and welfare for the lazy and unmotivated. when was the last time government took something over and did a better job at a cheaper price than letting private companies do the job with compitition?



This brings to mind an opinion article in the WSJ by a leading Senate Democrat within the last 6 months. In the article, his conclusion was "Let us make your decisions simpler!". I was stunned. It's seems like that is happening to me alot these days.
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You must be thinking of companies like GM, Chrysler, and the following list of 2008 bankruptcies of MAJOR corporations:



Companies going out of business are a healthy part of an economy. It serves efficiency. The Feds should stay out of it, because they never go out of business, no matter HOW inefficient they get.
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You must be thinking of companies like GM, Chrysler, and the following list of 2008 bankruptcies of MAJOR corporations:



Companies going out of business are a healthy part of an economy. It serves efficiency..


I guess that's why the economy is so healthy right now.

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You must be thinking of companies like GM, Chrysler, and the following list of 2008 bankruptcies of MAJOR corporations:



Companies going out of business are a healthy part of an economy. It serves efficiency..


I guess that's why the economy is so healthy right now.

:D


Laugh all you want, it is better for ALL of us if the federal government stays the hell out of the way, and the strong businesses survive.
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You must be thinking of companies like GM, Chrysler, and the following list of 2008 bankruptcies of MAJOR corporations:



Companies going out of business are a healthy part of an economy. It serves efficiency..


I guess that's why the economy is so healthy right now.

:D


Laugh all you want, it is better for ALL of us if the federal government stays the hell out of the way, and the strong businesses survive.


The libs don't get that. They won't be happy until everyone is equally miserable.
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Higher education



Scholarships are not charities, neither are Pell grants. Are you saying that Canada gives a full ride scholarship to all students at no cost?

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There are many school systems that have a breakfast program. I'm unaware of any charities that are providing school meals.

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expanded health care



??? Are you speaking of things like the March of Dimes and similar? They provide funding for research primarily.

[replyhousing



What national charities provide housing?

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Phsychiatric care



What national charities provide this?
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Donald Trump was on this morning talking about some of the other deductions taking a hit. Contributions to charities will no longer be deductions. Sucks to be a charity that relies on large private donations.



Sounds good to me. Why should anyone's contribution to running the country be reduced just because they want to give money to a megachurch or an art museum?


Or a local mission for the homeless, or a battered women's shelter, or an orphanage, or the Red Cross, or an animal adoption center, or a boys and girls club, or a food bank, or a local scholarship fund, or a Goodwill store, or a home for runaways.

It's called incentiving good deeds and it works pretty well....or did.:S


Why would good deeds need incentives? Isn't being good incentive enough in itself? (Maybe not for Republicans.)


The facts:

Biden and wife averaged $369 per year to charities in the past 10 years. Biden and wife claimed $995 in charitable gifts in 2007 or 0.3 percent of income of nearly $320,000.

McCain in 2007 reported $405,409 in total income and charitable contributions of $105,467, or 26 percent of total income.

McCain files a separate return from wife. The totals do not include Ms. McCain’s charitable contributions.

Obama and wife donated $240,000 in 2007, or about 5.7 percent of the couple’s $4.2-million in income.

Seems I remember Gore and Kerry followed the democrat mold too. I also remember during the election hearing about a poll from one of the big research outfits that people who identified themselves as democrats gave far less overall in dollars and even volunteer work than people ho identified themselves as republicans.

That makes sense, though. Maybe Democrats don't give as much to charity because getting a tax deduction would take money away from the government.:ph34r::ph34r::o


Fascinating but not relevant.

How does any of that information answer the question of WHY a good deed isn't incentive enough?
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Higher education



Scholarships are not charities.


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Most, probably all, private colleges and universities in the US provide scholarships from their endowments. Endowments come from benefactors. Given the miserable state of government funded scholarships in the US right now, I'd venture that most scholarship money at private schools is coming from non-government sources.
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Donald Trump was on this morning talking about some of the other deductions taking a hit. Contributions to charities will no longer be deductions. Sucks to be a charity that relies on large private donations.



Sounds good to me. Why should anyone's contribution to running the country be reduced just because they want to give money to a megachurch or an art museum?


Or a local mission for the homeless, or a battered women's shelter, or an orphanage, or the Red Cross, or an animal adoption center, or a boys and girls club, or a food bank, or a local scholarship fund, or a Goodwill store, or a home for runaways.

It's called incentivising good deeds and it works pretty well....or did.:S


Why would good deeds need incentives? Isn't being good incentive enough in itself? (Maybe not for Republicans.)


The facts:

Biden and wife averaged $369 per year to charities in the past 10 years. Biden and wife claimed $995 in charitable gifts in 2007 or 0.3 percent of income of nearly $320,000.

McCain in 2007 reported $405,409 in total income and charitable contributions of $105,467, or 26 percent of total income.

McCain files a separate return from wife. The totals do not include Ms. McCain’s charitable contributions.

Obama and wife donated $240,000 in 2007, or about 5.7 percent of the couple’s $4.2-million in income.

Seems I remember Gore and Kerry followed the democrat mold too. I also remember during the election hearing about a poll from one of the big research outfits that people who identified themselves as democrats gave far less overall in dollars and even volunteer work than people ho identified themselves as republicans.

That makes sense, though. Maybe Democrats don't give as much to charity because getting a tax deduction would take money away from the government.:ph34r::ph34r::o


Fascinating but not relevant.

How does any of that information answer the question of WHY a good deed isn't incentive enough?


It doesn't. I just wanted to take moment to point out an interesting contrast since the reply took a jab at republicans (which Im not, BTW).

The answer to the question posed is simple. Already generous people will tend to give more when they know they will get a break for it. Greedy people won't give whether an incentive is offered or not.

So I guess you could say the incentive is to get generous people to up the ante to cover what the greedy people won't give.;)
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Donald Trump was on this morning talking about some of the other deductions taking a hit. Contributions to charities will no longer be deductions. Sucks to be a charity that relies on large private donations.



Sounds good to me. Why should anyone's contribution to running the country be reduced just because they want to give money to a megachurch or an art museum?


Or a local mission for the homeless, or a battered women's shelter, or an orphanage, or the Red Cross, or an animal adoption center, or a boys and girls club, or a food bank, or a local scholarship fund, or a Goodwill store, or a home for runaways.

It's called incentivising good deeds and it works pretty well....or did.:S


Why would good deeds need incentives? Isn't being good incentive enough in itself? (Maybe not for Republicans.)


The facts:

Biden and wife averaged $369 per year to charities in the past 10 years. Biden and wife claimed $995 in charitable gifts in 2007 or 0.3 percent of income of nearly $320,000.

McCain in 2007 reported $405,409 in total income and charitable contributions of $105,467, or 26 percent of total income.

McCain files a separate return from wife. The totals do not include Ms. McCain’s charitable contributions.

Obama and wife donated $240,000 in 2007, or about 5.7 percent of the couple’s $4.2-million in income.

Seems I remember Gore and Kerry followed the democrat mold too. I also remember during the election hearing about a poll from one of the big research outfits that people who identified themselves as democrats gave far less overall in dollars and even volunteer work than people ho identified themselves as republicans.

That makes sense, though. Maybe Democrats don't give as much to charity because getting a tax deduction would take money away from the government.:ph34r::ph34r::o


Fascinating but not relevant.

How does any of that information answer the question of WHY a good deed isn't incentive enough?


It doesn't. ]


Just as I figured - performing an evasive maneuver.
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Donald Trump was on this morning talking about some of the other deductions taking a hit. Contributions to charities will no longer be deductions. Sucks to be a charity that relies on large private donations.



Sounds good to me. Why should anyone's contribution to running the country be reduced just because they want to give money to a megachurch or an art museum?


Or a local mission for the homeless, or a battered women's shelter, or an orphanage, or the Red Cross, or an animal adoption center, or a boys and girls club, or a food bank, or a local scholarship fund, or a Goodwill store, or a home for runaways.

It's called incentivising good deeds and it works pretty well....or did.:S


Why would good deeds need incentives? Isn't being good incentive enough in itself? (Maybe not for Republicans.)


The facts:

Biden and wife averaged $369 per year to charities in the past 10 years. Biden and wife claimed $995 in charitable gifts in 2007 or 0.3 percent of income of nearly $320,000.

McCain in 2007 reported $405,409 in total income and charitable contributions of $105,467, or 26 percent of total income.

McCain files a separate return from wife. The totals do not include Ms. McCain’s charitable contributions.

Obama and wife donated $240,000 in 2007, or about 5.7 percent of the couple’s $4.2-million in income.

Seems I remember Gore and Kerry followed the democrat mold too. I also remember during the election hearing about a poll from one of the big research outfits that people who identified themselves as democrats gave far less overall in dollars and even volunteer work than people ho identified themselves as republicans.

That makes sense, though. Maybe Democrats don't give as much to charity because getting a tax deduction would take money away from the government.:ph34r::ph34r::o


Fascinating but not relevant.

How does any of that information answer the question of WHY a good deed isn't incentive enough?


It doesn't. ]


Just as I figured - performing an evasive maneuver.


Uh...yeah, ok.
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Welcome back, John - I hope all is well with you and yours?



Isn't that just going to encourage him? ;):D


*shrug*

He's a good guy, even if we don't agree on political issues.
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Just as I figured - performing an evasive maneuver.



You should well know!! :P

Welcome back, John - I hope all is well with you and yours?


Just passing through.:)
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