shropshire 0 #51 March 1, 2009 The fucker gets to keep his job? - if so, so much for justice (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #52 March 1, 2009 Quote The fucker gets to keep his job? - if so, so much for justice Note: A 1 minute video may or may not tell the whole story. Our constitution gives him the presumtion of innocence until conviction. I don't know, conviction of a gross misdemeanor would probably cost him his job. If he is found not guilty, he may still lose his job for mistreatment of a prisoner. From what I saw in the video, I hope so. He certainly seemed to have lost control. But a non-felony conviction would allow him to continue to possess firearms, be eligible for jury duty and vote (felons lose those)"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #53 March 1, 2009 Thanks for the clarification. I agree, he certainly appears to have lost control. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #54 March 1, 2009 QuoteBut a non-felony conviction would allow him to continue to possess firearms, be eligible for jury duty and vote (felons lose those) I thought violent misdemeanors were also reasons to lose or atleast prevent you from carrying.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #55 March 1, 2009 QuoteQuoteBut a non-felony conviction would allow him to continue to possess firearms, be eligible for jury duty and vote (felons lose those) I thought violent misdemeanors were also reasons to lose or atleast prevent you from carrying. AFAIK, only domestic violence misdemeanors cost you your firearms rights."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #56 March 3, 2009 Quote Quote The fucker gets to keep his job? - if so, so much for justice Note: A 1 minute video may or may not tell the whole story. Our constitution gives him the presumtion of innocence until conviction. I don't know, conviction of a gross misdemeanor would probably cost him his job. If he is found not guilty, he may still lose his job for mistreatment of a prisoner. From what I saw in the video, I hope so. He certainly seemed to have lost control. But a non-felony conviction would allow him to continue to possess firearms, be eligible for jury duty and vote (felons lose those) You appear to be confusing due process and presumption of innocence in a COURT OF LAW, with a human resources matter. The human resources matter should be handled by firing the officer and terminating any retirement benefits accrued to date. Deterrence, in a most fundamental way. Civil penalties will, not doubt, be paid by the folks that mistakenly hired him. Criminal penalties clearly will be minimal, as he is being protected by the "thin blue line" mentality of the LEO community. Minimal assault charges? What a travesty of justice. If the teenager and a friend of hers had put an ass-kicking on the cop, the way these two guys did to her, on video that is from a completely reliable source, what would the charges be? Way more than minimal assault, I'll bet. I still don't get why only one officer was charged. Aren't both participants in a criminal act supposed to be charged equally? The second officer certainly wasn't trying to stop anything. He jumped right in and did his best to help. What's up with that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #57 March 3, 2009 I think that when cops break the law, they should be charged just like any other member of the public would be for a similar crime, plus there should be a criminal charge for violating the public trust that carries a non-trivial punishment. This guy had already been involved in two shootings, killing one and wounding another. This on top of those makes for a fairly colorful, if short, career. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #58 March 4, 2009 QuoteI think that when cops break the law, they should be charged just like any other member of the public would be for a similar crime, plus there should be a criminal charge for violating the public trust that carries a non-trivial punishment. This guy had already been involved in two shootings, killing one and wounding another. This on top of those makes for a fairly colorful, if short, career. Blues, Dave Exactamundo! To me, a 'bad' or 'dirty' cop should face the same treatment as anyone else who commits a crime. What this guy did is damned sure, a crime. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krip 2 #59 March 4, 2009 Quote This guy had already been involved in two shootings, killing one and wounding another. This on top of those makes for a fairly colorful, if short, career. Blues, Dave Say whatDude thats three strikes you be gone. Now lets go back and review the other two incidents. Gotta love videoSay What Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loumeinhart 0 #60 March 4, 2009 QuoteNo female police officer? so it takes a female officer to tell the difference between right and wrong? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #61 March 4, 2009 QuoteQuoteNo female police officer? so it takes a female officer to tell the difference between right and wrong? I guess you are ok with having that officer in the video doing an intake search on your wife or daughter???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #62 March 4, 2009 Quote Quote No female police officer? so it takes a female officer to tell the difference between right and wrong? What are both officers "telling"? A difference between right or wrong? Well, absolutely. But only with reference to their own agressive attitude towards a juvenile I'm not that familiar with US laws but, here such a situation is quite impossible: In any issue a (female) teenager/kid is involved in, strictly a female officer is required. I feel sure, you know what I meant. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeyRamone 0 #63 March 5, 2009 Those cops need to be gang raped. They let the power go to their heads how many other people do you think they have done this too and it is not on video. Yep rape away. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites