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One can always find a poll that reflects their views.

Wednesday, March 04, 2009
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 42% of the nation’s voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President.

PRINCETON, NJ -- For the first time since Gallup began tracking Barack Obama's presidential job approval rating on Jan. 21, fewer than 60% of Americans approve of the job he is doing as president. In Feb. 21-23 polling, 59% of Americans give Obama a positive review, while 25% say they disapprove, and 16% have no opinion.



Gallup reports 62% approval this morning. www.gallup.com/Home.aspx

How does that compare with your guy on Jan 19th?

It must stick in your throat that last November the voters of the US decided that the GOP was not competent to run the White House, the Senate, or the House.



anything bad that happened before Obama took office was probably Bill Clinton's fault.



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"Corporate bailouts are a different story...For me, I think that is much more destructive to a free market system."

I agree! let em fall on their face. John stewart had a great segment last night showing all the CEOs that were full of sh*t saying everything is fine, 3 months later they were all f*cked. Bad leadership should not be rewarded, just like poor management of your personal finances should not be rewarded.

Truthfully, I'm not 100% against some social safety nets, the problem is the dems spend SO MUCH, it is out of control. Living in the state of CA, i make less than 100K and some how I lose a total of 43% of my paycheck to taxes and other government programs- and that is just based on INCOME! doesn't include all the other taxes we pay out here. I just think it is SO WRONG to take home 50% or less of your paycheck at the end of the day, cut the spending and let us live our lives, buy sh*t and stimulate the economy!

It just isnt fair for any of us. the government should be able to operate at MOST on 25% of what it's citizens make. The fact that more taxes are on the horizon makes me want to throw up.
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>Indeed, people often lament the lack of savings here in the US. But people trying to wean themselves from debt and save just a little today (mainly out of fear for the future) is one of the reasons we are in this recession to begin with. Strange.


That sir is a VERY interesting observation...My Fathers generation was all about "save for a rainy day" and I think in a post depression economy people were still strongly affected by the lack of work, goods, and services to choose from. so when they made money it went right into the bank.

At least that way the banks have real capital to lend out. :D

However I think that the larger and more complex an economy gets where there are ever increasing goods, services, and industries to keep people employed- the less saving makes sense...money has to be kept flowing through the system in order for it to work properly...sort of like the electrical grid...Maybe there is some sort of algorithm that can show the effects of capital flow correlated with the size and complexity of global economies over time.

Does the Fed use such a computer algorithm to help manage the flow of capital now that we crossed the pedaflop calculation barrier? It seems that the problem of capital flow and interest rate management could benefit from more computerized interventions.

Beware of the collateralizing and monetization of your desires.
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...30% since election day.[:/]

Spend some more, Messiah!



Your post looks a bit silly now that a year has passed.


Hell it was silly back then considering who it was that tanked the market.. another useless dumbfuck from Texas who ran everything he touched in his life into the ground. The man never saw a business venture he couldnt fuck up and have someone else bail his sorry ass out.

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...30% since election day.[:/]

Spend some more, Messiah!



Your post looks a bit silly now that a year has passed.


You can't be serious. Take a look at the underlying fundamentals of the economy. The second dip of the double is gonna be deep.

You know, if the market being up from a down is your idea of success, remind me not to take your investing advise.;)
Chuck Akers
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...30% since election day.[:/]

Spend some more, Messiah!



Your post looks a bit silly now that a year has passed.


You can't be serious. Take a look at the underlying fundamentals of the economy. The second dip of the double is gonna be deep.

You know, if the market being up from a down is your idea of success, remind me not to take your investing advise.;)


Buy low, sell high works for me. You have a different strategy?
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...30% since election day.[:/]

Spend some more, Messiah!



Your post looks a bit silly now that a year has passed.


You can't be serious. Take a look at the underlying fundamentals of the economy. The second dip of the double is gonna be deep.

You know, if the market being up from a down is your idea of success, remind me not to take your investing advise.;)


Buy low, sell high works for me. You have a different strategy?


That' not investing, that's trading. There's a big difference. I can discuss either, but you'll first need to decide which conversation you want to have.
Chuck Akers
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...30% since election day.[:/]

Spend some more, Messiah!



Your post looks a bit silly now that a year has passed.



Right, it's as brilliant as saying the unemp was Obama's fault, it has skyrocketed 3.4% from Feb 08 to Feb 09, so the 2% it kept going after Feb 09 was the overrun it took for the stimulus to kick in. Now it has dropped from 10.1% to 9.7% and jobs are being created.

Same with the market, it had tanked from 14k to whatever Obama inherited, 8-9kish and it kept rolling downward. See, when the other total financial crash happened in teh GD and the gov thought they would let it fix itself, it kept rolling with no intervention; today's Repubs don't get that doesn't work and tehyt cite 1920 depression which was just a war transition-to- non war economy where the banks were dead, just some markets, jobs, etc.

I just apologize to Chuck, Stanley and all the real Americans who want the US to tank so they can be, "right."

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...30% since election day.[:/]

Spend some more, Messiah!



Your post looks a bit silly now that a year has passed.


You can't be serious. Take a look at the underlying fundamentals of the economy. The second dip of the double is gonna be deep.

You know, if the market being up from a down is your idea of success, remind me not to take your investing advise.;)



Hey moderation, this is obviously Stanley; can we have 2 user accounts? :P At what point do you actually relent and admit you were wrong? Weren't you saying the same thing wherever you were as Clinton took over? We know you were and I'm sure you blamed the 2008-09 market tanking 7-8 years after his exit on Clinton :S; am I right?

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...30% since election day.[:/]

Spend some more, Messiah!



Your post looks a bit silly now that a year has passed.


You can't be serious. Take a look at the underlying fundamentals of the economy. The second dip of the double is gonna be deep.

You know, if the market being up from a down is your idea of success, remind me not to take your investing advise.;)


Buy low, sell high works for me. You have a different strategy?


That' not investing, that's trading. There's a big difference. I can discuss either, but you'll first need to decide which conversation you want to have.


Oh brother, in today's and since the early 90's the market is about day trading. Go back to the 70's and all mwe had were long-term investors. Sorry, but most of all that's out there is day traders and profit takers; it's the way it is and has been for some time. Can't believe you just don't admit you fucked up.

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...30% since election day.[:/]

Spend some more, Messiah!



Your post looks a bit silly now that a year has passed.


You can't be serious. Take a look at the underlying fundamentals of the economy. The second dip of the double is gonna be deep.

You know, if the market being up from a down is your idea of success, remind me not to take your investing advise.;)


Buy low, sell high works for me. You have a different strategy?


That' not investing, that's trading. There's a big difference. I can discuss either, but you'll first need to decide which conversation you want to have.


Oh brother, in today's and since the early 90's the market is about day trading. Go back to the 70's and all mwe had were long-term investors. Sorry, but most of all that's out there is day traders and profit takers; it's the way it is and has been for some time. Can't believe you just don't admit you fucked up.


You guys crack me up. I've been investing with long-term strategies for a long time and it still works today - at least according to my consistant returns.:o
Chuck Akers
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>Take a look at the underlying fundamentals of the economy. The second
>dip of the double is gonna be deep.

So if there is no double dip, will you be praising the effects the recovery act had?

I expect that if the economy does recover quickly it will be a very bad day for a lot of people here.

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...30% since election day.[:/]

Spend some more, Messiah!



Your post looks a bit silly now that a year has passed.


You can't be serious. Take a look at the underlying fundamentals of the economy. The second dip of the double is gonna be deep.

You know, if the market being up from a down is your idea of success, remind me not to take your investing advise.;)



Hey moderation, this is obviously Stanley; can we have 2 user accounts? :P At what point do you actually relent and admit you were wrong? Weren't you saying the same thing wherever you were as Clinton took over? We know you were and I'm sure you blamed the 2008-09 market tanking 7-8 years after his exit on Clinton :S; am I right?



What the hell are you talking about? Once again you are making assumptions and writing as though you know and what you say is fact. That is not me so I will ask once again that you stop making up stuff to make your meaningless drivel worth something. It never will be but keep trying to bait me...... carry on with your small understanding of economy and the market.
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The man never saw a business venture he couldnt fuck up and have someone else bail his sorry ass out.



Hey at least he saw business! Unlike the great community organizer. Neither of em would know the proper way to handle a business as they are too extreme politically in either direction. ultimately, I vote for who has real experience and who doesn't steal from my pocket.
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The man never saw a business venture he couldnt fuck up and have someone else bail his sorry ass out.



Hey at least he saw business! Unlike the great community organizer. Neither of em would know the proper way to handle a business as they are too extreme politically in either direction. ultimately, I vote for who has real experience and who doesn't steal from my pocket.



You support Skyride, though.
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Incorrect. I support ASC. I saved a shit ton of money by jumping there and going through most of my AFF there. If you factor in the free housing, beer, food, and coaching i received over the years we're talking thousands.

I believe this thread is about the status of the economy, not my DZ preference and the justifications behind it.
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>Incorrect. I support ASC. I saved a shit ton of money by jumping there . . .

So you support people who steal from other people's pockets. I guess if you're well off that makes you a republican; if you're poor that makes you a democrat.

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John tried to put the exact same words in my mouth, you two bros? I support business, and people who run ethical businesses. I've never taken a stance one way or another on skyride, just ASC. skyride doesnt affect me, I have no experience with em personally. If they are so bad it'll probably bite em. ASC does matter to me, which as long as I've been jumping (not too long), is a damn good place.

I never witnessed any stolen money there, which I cant say for other DZs I've visited. But I don't go online trash talked DZs I don't agree with, cuz it is kind of a small community, and ultimately the survival of our DZs is for the greater good. I just won't jump there.

I'm a registered independent, Voted for O in the primaries. Things can change, just like he says! If taxing is stealing (which I'm guilty of calling it in heated debates) we're all supporters of evil.

Edit: k, i'm done with thread drift now :-)
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>Incorrect. I support ASC. I saved a shit ton of money by jumping there . . .

So you support people who steal from other people's pockets. I guess if you're well off that makes you a republican; if you're poor that makes you a democrat.



You see folks, Bill has a one-track mind. Guess he's never heard of George Soros.:ph34r:
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...30% since election day.[:/]

Spend some more, Messiah!



Your post looks a bit silly now that a year has passed.


You can't be serious. Take a look at the underlying fundamentals of the economy. The second dip of the double is gonna be deep.

You know, if the market being up from a down is your idea of success, remind me not to take your investing advise.;)



Hey moderation, this is obviously Stanley; can we have 2 user accounts? :P At what point do you actually relent and admit you were wrong? Weren't you saying the same thing wherever you were as Clinton took over? We know you were and I'm sure you blamed the 2008-09 market tanking 7-8 years after his exit on Clinton :S; am I right?



What the hell are you talking about? Once again you are making assumptions and writing as though you know and what you say is fact. That is not me so I will ask once again that you stop making up stuff to make your meaningless drivel worth something. It never will be but keep trying to bait me...... carry on with your small understanding of economy and the market.


You didn't make claims that the dow would likely tank, it was oversold, etc? Riiiiight, as I said, you and Chuck are one in the same, you both predict doom, now that it hasn't happened, you're sad. Cheer up, the R's will take control one day and your prediction of crash will them come to fruition. ;)

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...30% since election day.[:/]

Spend some more, Messiah!



Your post looks a bit silly now that a year has passed.


You can't be serious. Take a look at the underlying fundamentals of the economy. The second dip of the double is gonna be deep.

You know, if the market being up from a down is your idea of success, remind me not to take your investing advise.;)



Hey moderation, this is obviously Stanley; can we have 2 user accounts? :P At what point do you actually relent and admit you were wrong? Weren't you saying the same thing wherever you were as Clinton took over? We know you were and I'm sure you blamed the 2008-09 market tanking 7-8 years after his exit on Clinton :S; am I right?



What the hell are you talking about? Once again you are making assumptions and writing as though you know and what you say is fact. That is not me so I will ask once again that you stop making up stuff to make your meaningless drivel worth something. It never will be but keep trying to bait me...... carry on with your small understanding of economy and the market.


You didn't make claims that the dow would likely tank, it was oversold, etc? Riiiiight, as I said, you and Chuck are one in the same, you both predict doom, now that it hasn't happened, you're sad. Cheer up, the R's will take control one day and your prediction of crash will them come to fruition. ;)


How many times do I have to repeat this... can you read? I never said when, I said the market is oversold... guess what ... I still think that and so do many other market watchers and experts. I still think that the market could sell off and before I stated it could easily sell off all of it gains.... and it could. I'm sorry you do not know what you are talking about and have no real knowledge of the market... that is evident by your claims that what Obama has done is what spurred this rally. The truth is that the rally would have probably come no matter what. Market are cyclical and although policy can have an effect on it.... most likely policies just enhance what was going to happen anyway. For the last time stop fabricating idea and crediting them to me because you have nothing else to grab on to other than trying to bait people so you can get in a pissing match with them. We get it.... you are extremely left, Obama can do no worng, and all Republicans or conservatives suck and will never do anything right. Everyone knows you feel that way. Waht would be refreshing is if you conceded on some things that are being done poorly by the left and admitted they are not perfect. It would be nice if you actually had something of value to say.......
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