Is Rush Limbaugh the REAL Head of the GOP?

[rushmc 23]

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I'm not suggesting you need to take a course in political science or anything, but it wouldn't hurt.

No?

Then what are you doing?

Not winning comes to mind

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[quade 4]

You're right. What was I thinking? Clearly you know all you'll ever need to know to get along just fine in your own little world. It just doesn't matter if that coincides with the rest of reality.

So, you're right.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[Andy9o8 2]

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I wish he was. But no, he is not.

He is however energizing (with Obama/Emanuel help) the conservative wing of the party.

The majority of this country.

The majority? How is that even possible if Democrats have about half of the country and the non-"conservative wing of the (Republican) party" has some other percentage greater than zero?

He's referring to, uh, the third half.

[Capt.Slog 0]

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You're right. What was I thinking? Clearly you know all you'll ever need to know to get along just fine in your own little world. It just doesn't matter if that coincides with the rest of reality.

So, you're right.

He has that magic mirror, you know.

[Andrewwhyte 1]

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The left is trying to demonize the word. But basicaly a conservative is someone who beleive more in the people and less in the government. Which means smaller government. less regulation, less taxation, more self reliance, being responcible for your actions and on and on.

You sir are re-defining. The word in the political world has not changed. Just like liberal.

And then there are the funniest two words ever, moderate and progressive. Those two words have been stolen to try and take the sting out of what liberalism and the label of being liberal are.

That is really funny. Liberlaism is what you are describing as Conservativism.
Hint: The Monarchists were the Conservatives and the terrorists revolutionary patriots were the Liberals.

[rushmc 23]

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You're right. What was I thinking? Clearly you know all you'll ever need to know to get along just fine in your own little world. It just doesn't matter if that coincides with the rest of reality.

So, you're right.

He has that magic mirror, you know.

Hmmm,you are giving clues to who you are!!!!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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You're right. What was I thinking? Clearly you know all you'll ever need to know to get along just fine in your own little world. It just doesn't matter if that coincides with the rest of reality.

So, you're right.

I guess my own little world is any postion you do not agree with!!
I will tell you man, me and many others are just fine with that

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

FYI

One of the meanings from dictionay.com

The one I hold to and the one YOU KNOW I am talking about but need to move to avoid the context.

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A political philosophy or attitude emphasizing respect for traditional institutions, distrust of government activism, and opposition to sudden change in the established order.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

ALL related definitions for socialism from the same site. Take your pick.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/socialism?qsrc=2888

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

Two definitions for liberalism from the same site.

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lib·er·al·ism (lĭb'ər-ə-lĭz'əm, lĭb'rə-) Pronunciation Key
n.
The state or quality of being liberal.

A political theory founded on the natural goodness of humans and the autonomy of the individual and favoring civil and political liberties, government by law with the consent of the governed, and protection from arbitrary authority.
often Liberalism The tenets or policies of a Liberal party.
A 19th-century Protestant movement that favored free intellectual inquiry, stressed the ethical and humanitarian content of Christianity, and de-emphasized dogmatic theology.
A 19th-century Roman Catholic movement that favored political democracy and ecclesiastical reform but was theologically orthodox.
An economic theory in favor of laissez-faire, the free market, and the gold standard.
Liberalism
A 19th-century Protestant movement that favored free intellectual inquiry, stressed the ethical and humanitarian content of Christianity, and de-emphasized dogmatic theology.
A 19th-century Roman Catholic movement that favored political democracy and ecclesiastical reform but was theologically orthodox.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

liberalism


In the twentieth century, a viewpoint or ideology associated with free political institutions and religious toleration, as well as support for a strong role of government in regulating capitalism and constructing the welfare state.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

welfare state 
–noun a state in which the welfare of the people in such matters as social security, health and education, housing, and working conditions is the responsibility of the government.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

Yep, "my little world".

Funny how context shows things so clearly dont you think?

Any other classes you can tell me about but do not suggest I take?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[ryoder 1,590]

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But basicaly a conservative is someone who beleive more in the people and less in the government. Which means smaller government. less regulation, less taxation, more self reliance, being responcible for your actions and on and on.

No. It doesn't. Not even if you just limit the discusion to what the word means in the US.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism_in_the_United_States

So what Quade is trying to say is:

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[lawrocket 3]

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You're right. What was I thinking? Clearly you know all you'll ever need to know to get along just fine in your own little world. It just doesn't matter if that coincides with the rest of reality.

So, you're right.

I hate to break this to you, paul, but your world is little. Your world isn't mine or anybody else's. Mine is mine and nobody else's.

We all have our own little worlds. My living is based upon the fact that people fail to comprehend that my world is my own.

At least rushmc recognizes that his world is his own and reckons that exercising dominion over the world of another is - to him as it is to me - bullshit.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[quade 4]

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At least rushmc recognizes that his world is his own and reckons that exercising dominion over the world of another is - to him as it is to me - bullshit.

And yet that still doesn't change the fact that he doesn't know what he's talking about.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[rushmc 23]

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You're right. What was I thinking? Clearly you know all you'll ever need to know to get along just fine in your own little world. It just doesn't matter if that coincides with the rest of reality.

So, you're right.

I hate to break this to you, paul, but your world is little. Your world isn't mine or anybody else's. Mine is mine and nobody else's.

We all have our own little worlds. My living is based upon the fact that people fail to comprehend that my world is my own.

At least rushmc recognizes that his world is his own and reckons that exercising dominion over the world of another is - to him as it is to me - bullshit.

Thanks

And it is also now easy to see that the world view from the high horse is very limiting and arogant

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[DanG 1]

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A political theory founded on the natural goodness of humans and the autonomy of the individual and favoring civil and political liberties, government by law with the consent of the governed, and protection from arbitrary authority.

Sounds a lot like your definition of conservatism.

You're a liberal!

- Dan G

[lawrocket 3]

So why not just writw, "I think you are incorrect." Or, "you don't know what you're talking about."

Once "your own little world" comes into it, it changes the topic of discussion. This does nothing for aiding in mutual understanding. The statement is intended to belittle.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[marks2065 0]

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So why not just writw, "I think you are incorrect." Or, "you don't know what you're talking about."

Once "your own little world" comes into it, it changes the topic of discussion. This does nothing for aiding in mutual understanding. The statement is intended to belittle.

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You will find alot of the far left isn't looking to use talk to gain mutual understanding because the platform they stand on can't support their argument so they use belittling to achive their goals.

[lawrocket 3]

It is the same not just for far left but for far right. And everyone in the middle.

It is a form of positional defense. Everyone does it. It is human nature. I do it, too and I try to catch myself on it.

I think most people are not interested in changing their minds. They'd rather change everyone else's to fit theirs.

Ironically, most people don't want to think that they are wrong but there is no objective "right or wrong" in matters such as this.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[livendive 8]

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But basicaly a conservative is someone who beleive more in the people and less in the government. Which means smaller government. less regulation, less taxation, more self reliance, being responcible for your actions and on and on.

So what happened to the size of our government between 2001 and 2007, when the so called "conservative" party had the white house and congress? Which party is in bed with the religious folks who want to criminalize drugs, porn, and abortion? Which party supports greater governmental power in the form of warrantless wiretaps, DUI checkpoints, etc?

Blues,
Dave

"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!"
(drink Mountain Dew)

[livendive 8]

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But basicaly a conservative is someone who beleive more in the people and less in the government. Which means smaller government. less regulation, less taxation, more self reliance, being responcible for your actions and on and on.

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lib·er·al·ism (lĭb'ər-ə-lĭz'əm, lĭb'rə-) Pronunciation Key
n.
The state or quality of being liberal.

A political theory founded on the natural goodness of humans and the autonomy of the individual and favoring civil and political liberties, government by law with the consent of the governed, and protection from arbitrary authority.

I think I may have found the point of confusion.

Blues,
Dave

"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!"
(drink Mountain Dew)

[quade 4]

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So why not just writw, "I think you are incorrect." Or, "you don't know what you're talking about."

I tried that. I even initially did it politely and with subtlety.

He then denied it and changed his parameters.

Then I said it again and linked him the proper definitions.

He then denied that the definitions used in political science applied.

I'm sorry, but if a person doesn't use the same language to mean the same things as the rest of the world, then, well, I guess communication breaks down, but it's not the rest of the world's fault; it's his.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[rehmwa 2]

didn't read the thread, just responding to the title

seems just like "Is Sean Penn the REAL head of the Dems?"

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