Another Good Liberal

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So what words are ok?

"Repubican" makes you giggle and in fact you've used it in 84 instances. And "rabid right" gets 13 hits.
But saying "Liberal" will get you quite spun up?

You openly ridicule others religions.

You mock anyone from any state other than those that you deem "blue" enough.




Basically, you don't seem to care if you act offensive, but then act as a bully if you feel that others are.

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So what words are ok?

"Repubican" makes you giggle and in fact you've used it in 84 instances. And "rabid right" gets 13 hits.
But saying "Liberal" will get you quite spun up?

You openly ridicule others religions.

You mock anyone from any state other than those that you deem "blue" enough.




Basically, you don't seem to care if you act offensive, but then act as a bully if you feel that others are.

Yup.. Just retuning in kind to those of you on the other spectrum and ESPECIALLY those out there on either political fringes.. in the same manner..I learned its the proper way around here.

But I am flattered you care so much...


Nah.. no I don't give a damn

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Yup.. Just retuning in kind to those of you on the other spectrum.. in the same manner..I learned its the proper way around here.

But I am flattered you care so much...

proper way? What does that mean? Belittle others opinions if they vary from your own? Be quick to bite and don't even think about any potential of truth that the "other side" might have.

THAT is the problem.

On this site, with the two parties.... all this anger. All this immature bickering. And in the froth, you don't even need to know where the "others" stand - just lash out and attack.


What truly was my stance on the First Amendment? Do you even really know? I sure as hell bet that you don't care.

Just because some one believes in the RIGHTS, it doesn't mean that they practice that act.

I believe that a woman has a RIGHT to her body and personal decision with respect to reproduction (read as right of choice), but I would not do that myself.

I believe that every one has a RIGHT to his/her religion, even if I personally am torn between my Catholic roots and an agnositc belief system. If someone is Jewish or Buddhist or Wiccan.... those are beliefs that THAT person has and he/she has the right to practice without interference.

I believe that people have a freedom of speech, whether it's using words that I wouldn't (and you might want to look up how many times you've used slanderous words) or even words against a position that I respect (GRANTED... I do NOT believe that he had a right to try to physically harm him)

My point in this thread (not that you truly even care) is that the current government/education/whatever is not the first or the only one that has tried to impose their beliefs on others.

AND... as I stated...."I can see both arguments." Can you?

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If you are fucking STUPID enough to advocate possesion of illegal drugs ( and there are a HELL of a lot of them) then you had best be prepared to live with police intervention in your life... I guess you live in some kind of wierd fantasy world where the words comeing out of your mouth have no meaning to those around you

Gosh, in your world it would be impossible to ever change any laws, because speaking anything contrary to what already exists, would subject you to police interrogation. That would have kind of a chilling effect on free speech, and debate over societal issues. Stalin loved the idea. But hey, you're all okay with that. Toe the party line, and you'll be just fine! Speak out against anything, and it's off to the gulag with you! It's just amazing that this attitude is coming from someone who spoke so harshly against the Patriot Act...

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If you are fucking STUPID enough to advocate possesion of illegal drugs ( and there are a HELL of a lot of them) then you had best be prepared to live with police intervention in your life... I guess you live in some kind of wierd fantasy world where the words comeing out of your mouth have no meaning to those around you

Gosh, in your world it would be impossible to ever change any laws, because speaking anything contrary to what already exists, would subject you to police interrogation. That would have kind of a chilling effect on free speech, and debate over societal issues. But hey, you're all okay with that. Toe the party line, and you'll be just fine! Speak out against anything, and it's off to the gulag with you! It's just amazing that this attitude is coming from someone who spoke so harshly against the Patriot Act...

Work within the law.. great... but again... if the idiot is stupid enough to advocate possesion.... I feel sorry for his naievete..and he has to be a loonie... if he actually has the drugs in his possesion.


AS far as the Patriot Act goes... yup.. you good "conservatives" set it up.. now live with it bubba.

You do realize your LORD BUSH.. is the one who has actually used it to great effect.. and has given the police in this country the ability to use it for ALL kinds of things it was never intended.

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AND... as I stated...."I can see both arguments." Can you?

You sound very socially liberal.. but the claims and the posts.. just don't add up

Actually yes I can see both arguments.. but I am quite happy to take a stand when the other argument is divergent from what is right.

Sorry but tolerance of the INTOLERANT..is just not in my makeup.

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I kept my weapons in the arms room. I could get them out any time I wanted by just asking the armorer.

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AND... as I stated...."I can see both arguments." Can you?

You sound very socially liberal.. but the claims and the posts.. just don't add up

Actually yes I can see both arguments.. but I am quite happy to take a stand when the other argument is divergent from what is right.

Sorry but tolerance of the INTOLERANT..is just not in my makeup.

The problem with that stance, is that you become judgmental and intolerant yourself.

(and as far as not adding up.... remember, you don't know me.)

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Sorry but tolerance of the INTOLERANT..is just not in my makeup.

Intolerant being defined as "anyone who thinks differently than I do", of course.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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AND... as I stated...."I can see both arguments." Can you?

You sound very socially liberal.. but the claims and the posts.. just don't add up

Actually yes I can see both arguments.. but I am quite happy to take a stand when the other argument is divergent from what is right.

Sorry but tolerance of the INTOLERANT..is just not in my makeup.

The problem with that stance, is that you become judgmental and intolerant yourself.

(and as far as not adding up.... remember, you don't know me.)

BINGO... I am VERY intolerant... of the intolerant. I have a very finely tuned ability to know it when I see it. When its quackin and a waddlin... I am pretty sure what it is I am looking at.

I have learned to treat others as they have treated me.

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AND... as I stated...."I can see both arguments." Can you?

You sound very socially liberal.. but the claims and the posts.. just don't add up

Actually yes I can see both arguments.. but I am quite happy to take a stand when the other argument is divergent from what is right.

Sorry but tolerance of the INTOLERANT..is just not in my makeup.

The problem with that stance, is that you become judgmental and intolerant yourself.

(and as far as not adding up.... remember, you don't know me.)

BINGO... I am VERY intolerant... of the intolerant.

I have learned to treat others as they have treated me.

And then you play the victim when the favor is returned to you.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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I have learned to treat others as they have treated me.

Jeane...you got that kind of backwards ya know.

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I have learned to treat others as they have treated me.

Jeane...you got that kind of backwards ya know.

The other way didn't work out so good

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Really...there is enough hate and cynicism in the world. What we really need is more peace, love, and puppies! Especially sweater puppies!

Shit....i was making an excellent point and it turned into preaching about boobies.

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Hi JR

I would like to congratulate you on your ability to post a simple thread with a link and cut copy and paste on your pet issue in SC and then sit back as the SHTF.

I've read thru 4 pgs of posts in response to your OP from well educated people that are willing to debate their views on lots of different subjects that may not be related to your OP in spite of the fact that no one is willing to change their opinions.

JR you be back in the day you had Kenedy and "peaceful jeffrey" to help you out with your stimulateing GC threads.

Now you can do it all by yourself. Push the button wind them up and watch the action

ITSOC BUMP

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Jeane...you got that kind of backwards ya know.

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After reading this thread, you seem to be a little off with people, do you have your period?

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Comradina!!!

Did YOU keep any personalweapons on base when you were active duty????

This is a college student that lives off-campus, not a troop quartered on base. Did you have a point to this, or did you not read the article?

Did YOU keep any personal weapons on base when you were active duty????

Whether I stored weapons on base or not is immaterial to the discussion.

I say again - did you have a point to your question?

I think the question is quite germane. I wonder if any of you former military men will actually answer it?

I knew several guys with personal weapons when I was in the military. The guys that lived in the barracks kept theirs in the arms room. The guys that lived off-post kept them at home.

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Isn't it a little bizarre that those who are trained to use weapons aren't allowed to keep them?

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After reading this thread, you seem to be a little off with people, do you have your period?

AH..now there is the typical sexist response I would expect from a rabid right wing conservative.

You should be oh so proud of yourself for upholding the best that people like you have.

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"If you are fucking STUPID enough to advocate possesion of illegal drugs ( and there are a HELL of a lot of them) then you had best be prepared to live with police intervention in your life..."

"if the idiot is stupid enough to advocate possesion.... I feel sorry for his naievete..and he has to be a loonie... if he actually has the drugs in his possesion."

I think maybe you're confusing two different concepts here. Arguing (1) that it is a good idea to break the law by possessing controlled substances is not the same as advocating (2) for a change in the law that would make, for example, the possession of small amounts of marijuana legal. Very few people would argue in favor of (1). There are numerous thoughtful articles in newspapers, magazines, etc., in favor of (2). In fact, there is a good Op/Ed piece in today's Chicago Tribune in favor of the legalization of medical marijuana.

Would you argue that the police would be justified in raiding the author's home in search of marijuana based on this article?

I don't mean to hijack the thread, and I hope the thread stays on track. Just needed to throw my 2 cents in on this peripheral issue.

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After reading this thread, you seem to be a little off with people, do you have your period?

AH..now there is the typical sexist response I would expect from a rabid right wing conservative.

You should be oh so proud of yourself for upholding the best that people like you have.

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I guess only good when you name call or say the things you say. I concede your right and everyone else are wrong. I bow to the mighty AMAZON.

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"If you are fucking STUPID enough to advocate possesion of illegal drugs ( and there are a HELL of a lot of them) then you had best be prepared to live with police intervention in your life..."

"if the idiot is stupid enough to advocate possesion.... I feel sorry for his naievete..and he has to be a loonie... if he actually has the drugs in his possesion."

I think maybe you're confusing two different concepts here. Arguing (1) that it is a good idea to break the law by possessing controlled substances is not the same as advocating (2) for a change in the law that would make, for example, the possession of small amounts of marijuana legal. Very few people would argue in favor of (1). There are numerous thoughtful articles in newspapers, magazines, etc., in favor of (2). In fact, there is a good Op/Ed piece in today's Chicago Tribune in favor of the legalization of medical marijuana.

Would you argue that the police would be justified in raiding the author's home in search of marijuana based on this article?

I don't mean to hijack the thread, and I hope the thread stays on track. Just needed to throw my 2 cents in on this peripheral issue.

In the case of drugs... any drugs.... if you are putting yourself on the radar of the people who make it their business..... BILLIONS of federal dollars per year.... to go after drugs and fill our jail with non violent users.... then you better be squeaky clean.

Look at the bullshit pulled on Tommy Chong. The feds have been completely out of control for years... and the crap they have pulled over the last 30 years is proof. Then when given catre blance by W and Asscroft.... yes.. what you say can and will get you looked at.

To think otherwise.. is BRAIN DAMAGED

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The problem Mamazon (just thought of that one ) is you appear to be advocating such behavior.

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"In the case of drugs... any drugs.... if you are putting yourself on the radar of the people who make it their business..... BILLIONS of federal dollars per year.... to go after drugs and fill our jail with non violent users.... then you better be squeaky clean.

Look at the bullshit pulled on Tommy Chong. The feds have been completely out of control for years... and the crap they have pulled over the last 30 years is proof. Then when given catre blance by W and Asscroft.... yes.. what you say can and will get you looked at.

To think otherwise.. is BRAIN DAMAGED"

I wrote an article advocating the legalization of medical marijuana when I was in law school. No police or DEA agents have ever bothered me.

As far as being BRAIN DAMAGED, I plead guilty. 20 years at the DZ and 3 years of law school will do that to a guy.

You won't believe me when I say this, but we are on the same side on most issues. Relax.

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The problem Mamazon (just thought of that one ) is you appear to be advocating such behavior.

Personally I would advocate making most recreational drugs legal.... and distributed the same way that alcohol is..and taxed. That would create a net inflow of dollars to the treasury... rather than the massive outflow of our tax dollars to fight the war on drugs.

Those changes alone would GUT the crime,street and biker gangs that profit from it being illegal.

It would also remove a LOT of our prison population in this country. Sending a non-violent criminal.. to a place with the VERY violent offenders is stupid, it only exacerbates the recidivism problems.