rushmc 23 #1 March 12, 2009 For perspective, here is what some others think. http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssEnergyNews/idUSL312427120090312?feedType=RSS&feedName=rbssEnergyNews&rpc=22 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123671107124286261.html"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #2 March 12, 2009 We coulda fixed it faster on our own.www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyBoyd 0 #3 March 12, 2009 The economic problems we are in developed over years, if not decades. They will not be solved quickly, regardless of which political party is in charge. If it makes you feel better, criticize Obama all you want. But we are all in this together. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #4 March 12, 2009 QuoteThe economic problems we are in developed over years, if not decades. They will not be solved quickly, regardless of which political party is in charge. If it makes you feel better, criticize Obama all you want. But we are all in this together. I would agree with the time frame. But, his spending policies have nothing to do with the economy. BO is your man no doubt. He is my president. But extending the fear to develop power does not put us "...all in this together""America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyBoyd 0 #5 March 12, 2009 "extending the fear to develop power" Can you think of another President in recent history who has done this? Your man W based his entire Presidency on the politics of fear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #6 March 12, 2009 The sigle most important factor that Barak is doing that is a cut above the past. He is using 'science' as a basis in his decisions, he is spending money on scientific research and caculated decisions rather than using only his intuition and religious belief. He is good, and the evil doers that have been raping the system will go down."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #7 March 12, 2009 QuoteThe sigle most important factor that Barak is doing that is a cut above the past. He is using 'science' as a basis in his decisions, he is spending money on scientific research and caculated decisions rather than using only his intuition and religious belief. He is good, and the evil doers that have been raping the system will go down. The simple fact that you can not see he is doing exactly as those in the past, stops my reply here."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryzflies 0 #8 March 12, 2009 He's doing a damn sight better than his predecessor, that's for sure. However, there's really no basis for comparison except with Herbert Hoover.If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krip 2 #9 March 12, 2009 to soon to tell. Ask us again in 23 month's Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #10 March 13, 2009 QuoteQuoteThe sigle most important factor that Barak is doing that is a cut above the past. He is using 'science' as a basis in his decisions, he is spending money on scientific research and caculated decisions rather than using only his intuition and religious belief. He is good, and the evil doers that have been raping the system will go down. The simple fact that you can not see he is doing exactly as those in the past, stops my reply here. He is doing a splendid job far better than you ever have even a clue or that fuckup who just left the Whitehouse on Jan 20th 2009 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #11 March 13, 2009 Quote He's doing a damn sight better than his predecessor, that's for sure. However, there's really no basis for comparison except with Herbert Hoover. Well, to be fair, on the economy and gov spending they both suck(ed) And, you dont want to compare in reality, cause you know it would make your man look really bad."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #12 March 13, 2009 Economy sucks without a doubt and not that this is the only indicator of anything by any means, but the Dow has been moving upward every day since the 9th. Why not give this just a little while longer before going ape shit that the Administration isn't doing a good job?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #13 March 13, 2009 Quote to soon to tell. Ask us again in 23 month's Agreed. It is WAY too early to draw any conclusion about Obama's performance w/r/t the economy. He hasn't even been in office for two months yet. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #14 March 13, 2009 I don't think a President is capable of managing the economy. Affect it, yes. Manage, no. Most Presidents don't really affect much until their budget is proposed and appropriations bills passed, but not this guy. He's already got legislation enacted. He's doing horribly. Spendulus and Porkulus - the stimulus [sic] bill and the $400 billion and some change pork bill - are both abominations. Horrid pieces of legislation. Made more horrid by coming in the wake of the TARP and the subsequent violation of the misappropriation act using the TARP to bail out GM/CHRYSLER that the preceding Congress with Bush administration concurrence/collusion thrust upon us. The economic headlines in the year following GWB's inauguration, even prior to his first appropriations bill being enacted, simply scourged the man over his handling of the economy. President Obama has enacted legislation - MAJOR legislation - affecting the economy and is still blaming GWB and his predecessors. With no push back from the Democratic Party's PR arm...er...the media. Compare and contrast that. LMFAO. He's doing horridly, to answer your query. But he's not managing the economy. He's incapable of doing so, as were all of his predecessors. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Misternatural 0 #15 March 13, 2009 >Why not give this just a little while longer before going ape shit that the Administration isn't doing a good job? Because some people are un-patriotic, hate America, and want it to fail. Beware of the collateralizing and monetization of your desires. D S #3.1415 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #16 March 13, 2009 I think he is doing well considering the amount of shit he stepped in when he took office. I might not agree with the bail outs, or much of what’s going on, however I am happy he is doing something and being honest about it. I like the transparency we have. I love the fact that he actually answers questions. I don’t think there is any easy solution to fix the shit were in right now. So I have no clue what will work or what will not, I also think any one who thinks they have a sure way to fix the problems is full of shit. My personal hope is we do punish the fuckers who have effected all of our lives because of their greed. I really hope they get the chair if what they did is not treason I don’t know what is.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt.Slog 0 #17 March 13, 2009 QuoteQuote He's doing a damn sight better than his predecessor, that's for sure. However, there's really no basis for comparison except with Herbert Hoover. Well, to be fair, on the economy and gov spending they both suck(ed) And, you dont want to compare in reality, cause you know it would make your man look really bad. What an absurd conclusion. How many presidents are there to compare with? Bush inherited a SURPLUS and left us with the worst recession in decades. Who was the last president before Obama to have inherited an economic mess of this magnitude? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Misternatural 0 #18 March 13, 2009 I read your material and I am glad that there are people who scrutinize politicians because only then does democracy work....because believe me, if the Obama administration fu*#s this up after placing faith in them ....I will be one of the first in line with a scathing editorial- I just want to make sure you are not posting things just because you take American politics personally.Beware of the collateralizing and monetization of your desires. D S #3.1415 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #19 March 15, 2009 Quote For perspective, here is what some others think. http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssEnergyNews/idUSL312427120090312?feedType=RSS&feedName=rbssEnergyNews&rpc=22 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123671107124286261.html So far, the pasture is greener, no more pork, we are finally "changing", we are helping the bail outs of those poor people who signed subprime mortgages, government will provide employment to the unemployed, he is increasing taxes on the rich, so the wealth will be spread around. I think we are doing just great!"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryzflies 0 #20 March 15, 2009 Quote Quote For perspective, here is what some others think. http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssEnergyNews/idUSL312427120090312?feedType=RSS&feedName=rbssEnergyNews&rpc=22 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123671107124286261.html So far, the pasture is greener, no more pork, we are finally "changing", we are helping the bail outs of those poor people who signed subprime mortgages, government will provide employment to the unemployed, he is increasing taxes on the rich, so the wealth will be spread around. I think we are doing just great! Who was the last president before Obama to have inherited an economic mess of this magnitude from his predecessor? Who was the last president to leave an economic mess of this magnitude to his successor?If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #21 March 15, 2009 I believe the question of this actual thread is how B hussein is managing the economy. If you have any beef with that, then I suggest you start another threat. "According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryzflies 0 #22 March 15, 2009 Quote I believe the question of this actual thread is how B hussein is managing the economy. If you have any beef with that, then I suggest you start another threat. Well, clearly you just destroyed any credibility you might have had.If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #23 March 15, 2009 Quote Quote I believe the question of this actual thread is how B hussein is managing the economy. If you have any beef with that, then I suggest you start another threat. Well, clearly you just destroyed any credibility you might have had. No, he didn't, actually - but you DO get the "it's all Bush's fault" points.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #24 March 15, 2009 QuoteWho was the last president before Obama to have inherited an economic mess of this magnitude from his predecessor? Who was the last president to leave an economic mess of this magnitude to his successor? Reagan inheriting Carter's mess. Ronnie was also a great communicator like Bammer. Seems Barack is just now getting the idea that his job isn't to tell people how bad it's going to be, but how he's making it better. That's hope & change I can live with.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryzflies 0 #25 March 15, 2009 QuoteQuoteWho was the last president before Obama to have inherited an economic mess of this magnitude from his predecessor? Who was the last president to leave an economic mess of this magnitude to his successor? Reagan inheriting Carter's mess. Ronnie was also a great communicator like Bammer. Seems Barack is just now getting the idea that his job isn't to tell people how bad it's going to be, but how he's making it better. That's hope & change I can live with. Weak, very weak. There was no record foreclosure rate during Carter's term. There was no loss of 50% in the stock market during Carter's term. No megabanks or mega insurance companies went belly up during Carter's term. Unemployment was 7.8% at the end of Ford's term and 7.2% at the end of Carter's term. You simply don't like the truth. Obama inherited a mess the like of which hasn't been seen since 1930If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites