rushmc 23 #51 March 21, 2009 QuoteI think it's hilarious that nearly all the posters on this thread have exactly the opposite opinions from when Bush would stick his foot in his mouth. EXACTLY!!!!!! Those here and the media!!!!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #52 March 21, 2009 QuoteIt's former President George Bush's fault that Obama only scored a 129. If the Bush administration hadn't screwed up the lanes and pins so badly over the last 8 years, Obama probably would have bowled a 300 game. It'll take years to repair the divots and restore the bowling alley to proper functioning again - at least four years. And it's going to take a billion dollars to effect the repairs. Best post ever.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #53 March 21, 2009 Quote Quote I've thought about it a little today and am having a difficult time not thinking of a certain word... deliberate Perhaps I'm being slow at the moment ... I'm not following what you mean by "deliberate." Also not sure to whom "deliberate" refers? /Marg I was over-analyzing so I was having this feeling Obama's remark was intentional. To me the "Special Olympics" joke is on par with and just as juvenile as a "your momma" joke so I was having a difficult time wrapping my head around why Obama would make such a remark. But after watching the clip again it's fairly obvious the remark was 'off-the-cuff.' The look on Leno's face was priceless. So in the end I don't think it was that big of deal, however, it does say a lot about our President. www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #54 March 21, 2009 Quote Quote Quote I've thought about it a little today and am having a difficult time not thinking of a certain word... deliberate Perhaps I'm being slow at the moment ... I'm not following what you mean by "deliberate." Also not sure to whom "deliberate" refers? /Marg I was over-analyzing so I was having this feeling Obama's remark was intentional. To me the "Special Olympics" joke is on par with and just as juvenile as a "your momma" joke so I was having a difficult time wrapping my head around why Obama would make such a remark. But after watching the clip again it's fairly obvious the remark was 'off-the-cuff.' The look on Leno's face was priceless. So in the end I don't think it was that big of deal, however, it does say a lot about our President. You are dead on. I did not think it was a big deal myself. My problem is how differetly it is being report vs others who made stupid remarks"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryzflies 0 #55 March 21, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote I've thought about it a little today and am having a difficult time not thinking of a certain word... deliberate Perhaps I'm being slow at the moment ... I'm not following what you mean by "deliberate." Also not sure to whom "deliberate" refers? /Marg I was over-analyzing so I was having this feeling Obama's remark was intentional. To me the "Special Olympics" joke is on par with and just as juvenile as a "your momma" joke so I was having a difficult time wrapping my head around why Obama would make such a remark. But after watching the clip again it's fairly obvious the remark was 'off-the-cuff.' The look on Leno's face was priceless. So in the end I don't think it was that big of deal, however, it does say a lot about our President. You are dead on. I did not think it was a big deal myself. My problem is how differetly it is being report vs others who made stupid remarks It is indeed. When Bush made stupid remarks people laughed at the stupidity of the remark. When Obama made a stupid remark there's "outrage" and "President A$$hole" and "deliberate" and "shocked, and horribly disappointed" and "offensive". Double standard indeed.If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #56 March 21, 2009 QuoteQuoteI guess it's a good thing that President Obama didn't attempt to make excuses and called the head of the Special Olympics immediately following the taping of the show (and prior to it airing) to apologize. Compare this to Gov. Palin, who is planning to turn down $170 million of stimulus funds for education, some of which would have gone to help special needs children, and then ask yourself who's the bigger ass hole and who's the bigger friend to those with this condition. Yep, I knew it - it took less than 5 minutes for someone to respond, running to Obama's rescue. If you want to talk about Gov. Palin, start a thread and let's discuss it. That has nothing to do with this and should stand on its' own if you take issue with it. And of course he apologized. That's called damage control and may or may not have any sincerity connected to it. Once again, the libs don't debate on merit. They just try to divert the conversation. Mr. Obama showed last night just what an absolute mindless, rude asshole he is. Okay, so now you've called the president an asshole twice, which should make you very happy. then you've gone after anyone who disagrees with your assessment, branding them a liberal, etc, etc. You don't want a forum, you want to pick a fight. so who'e the asshole now ? I know, I know....my first, last and final warning, don't even bother. I'm gone. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #57 March 21, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote I've thought about it a little today and am having a difficult time not thinking of a certain word... deliberate Perhaps I'm being slow at the moment ... I'm not following what you mean by "deliberate." Also not sure to whom "deliberate" refers? /Marg I was over-analyzing so I was having this feeling Obama's remark was intentional. To me the "Special Olympics" joke is on par with and just as juvenile as a "your momma" joke so I was having a difficult time wrapping my head around why Obama would make such a remark. But after watching the clip again it's fairly obvious the remark was 'off-the-cuff.' The look on Leno's face was priceless. So in the end I don't think it was that big of deal, however, it does say a lot about our President. You are dead on. I did not think it was a big deal myself. My problem is how differetly it is being report vs others who made stupid remarks It is indeed. When Bush made stupid remarks people laughed at the stupidity of the remark. When Obama made a stupid remark there's "outrage" and "President A$$hole" and "deliberate" and "shocked, and horribly disappointed" and "offensive". Double standard indeed. That is one interesting reality in which you liveExpalins much. Thanks"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #58 March 21, 2009 Quote Quote I think it's hilarious that nearly all the posters on this thread have exactly the opposite opinions from when Bush would stick his foot in his mouth. EXACTLY!!!!!! Those here and the media!!!! sorry, Marc, you too ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #59 March 21, 2009 Quote Quote Quote I think it's hilarious that nearly all the posters on this thread have exactly the opposite opinions from when Bush would stick his foot in his mouth. EXACTLY!!!!!! Those here and the media!!!! sorry, Marc, you too Hmm, show my post where I am outraged at Obama's remarkDont bother, you cant"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #60 March 21, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote .... That is one interesting reality in which you liveExpalins much. Thanks Shouldn't it be "many" ex-Palins? I'm an alien and a bit confused about your text ... dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penniless 0 #61 March 21, 2009 Quote Quote Quote You are dead on. I did not think it was a big deal myself. My problem is how differetly it is being report vs others who made stupid remarks It is indeed. When Bush made stupid remarks people laughed at the stupidity of the remark. When Obama made a stupid remark there's "outrage" and "President A$$hole" and "deliberate" and "shocked, and horribly disappointed" and "offensive". Double standard indeed. That is one interesting reality in which you liveExpalins much. Thanks Since every one of the expressions in quotes was used in this very thread, the alternate reality is clearly YOURS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penniless 0 #62 March 21, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote .... That is one interesting reality in which you liveExpalins much. Thanks Shouldn't it be "many" ex-Palins? I'm an alien and a bit confused about your text ... Bristol's chance at being an ex-Palin faded this week when she announced that her engagement was off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #63 March 21, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote .... That is one interesting reality in which you liveExpalins much. Thanks Shouldn't it be "many" ex-Palins? I'm an alien and a bit confused about your text ... No real answer so you go to this?I understand"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #64 March 21, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote You are dead on. I did not think it was a big deal myself. My problem is how differetly it is being report vs others who made stupid remarks It is indeed. When Bush made stupid remarks people laughed at the stupidity of the remark. When Obama made a stupid remark there's "outrage" and "President A$$hole" and "deliberate" and "shocked, and horribly disappointed" and "offensive". Double standard indeed. That is one interesting reality in which you liveExpalins much. Thanks Since every one of the expressions in quotes was used in this very thread, the alternate reality is clearly YOURS. As long as it is different than yours!!At least mine has some truth to itKeep it up. Been a tough week at work. I need the laughs...."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #65 March 21, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote .... That is one interesting reality in which you liveExpalins much. Thanks Shouldn't it be "many" ex-Palins? I'm an alien and a bit confused about your text ... Bristol's chance at being an ex-Palin faded this week when she announced that her engagement was off. I love it that you all fear her"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #66 March 21, 2009 Quote .... I love it that you all fear her Even it's worthless to discuss about Palin (if mother or daughter): Who do you think would really fear her?? dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #67 March 21, 2009 Quote Quote .... I love it that you all fear her Even it's worthless to discuss about Palin (if mother or daughter): Who do you think would really fear her?? Democrats. And for good reasonBy the way. To follow the same kind of shit you like to post. What the hell does the first line of your reply mean?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 425 #68 March 22, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteI guess it's a good thing that President Obama didn't attempt to make excuses and called the head of the Special Olympics immediately following the taping of the show (and prior to it airing) to apologize. Compare this to Gov. Palin, who is planning to turn down $170 million of stimulus funds for education, some of which would have gone to help special needs children, and then ask yourself who's the bigger ass hole and who's the bigger friend to those with this condition. Yep, I knew it - it took less than 5 minutes for someone to respond, running to Obama's rescue. If you want to talk about Gov. Palin, start a thread and let's discuss it. That has nothing to do with this and should stand on its' own if you take issue with it. And of course he apologized. That's called damage control and may or may not have any sincerity connected to it. Once again, the libs don't debate on merit. They just try to divert the conversation. Mr. Obama showed last night just what an absolute mindless, rude asshole he is. Okay, so now you've called the president an asshole twice, which should make you very happy. then you've gone after anyone who disagrees with your assessment, branding them a liberal, etc, etc. You don't want a forum, you want to pick a fight. so who'e the asshole now ? I know, I know....my first, last and final warning, don't even bother. I'm gone. What do you call a president that lowers himself to 7th grade "pick on the dumb guy" humor? It has nothing to do with making me happy. I have better ways to do that. This is about the President of the United States making comments expected from Jr. high school boys getting their first taste of testosterone. And where ya been on the whole liberal vs conservative debate? I'm not going after "anyone" who disagree with me. I'm going after "THE ONES" who disagree with me. Get over yourself.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 425 #69 March 22, 2009 QuoteHe was on a comedy show and made a joke in poor taste. All it shows is that the man is human. Reading anything more into it is just politicizing the issue. My opinion on the issue has nothing to do with politics. I would feel the same regardless of who said it. And it wasn't a joke. Watch the video. Mr. Obama's comment was clearly spontaneous as the conversation developed. Spontaneity reveals true thoughts. I believe that's the case here.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #70 March 22, 2009 QuoteQuoteI've accepted that it's some part of my 'antiquated' ideas regarding public behavior of leaders, public officials, and representatives of the government that I don't consider any Late Night comedy/variety show or The Daily Show, as much as I might like the latter, to be appropriate fora for the head of state or even Presidential candidates. And do you know who was the ground-breaker for that? None less than that commie pinko liberal tree-hugger, then-former Vice President and Republican presidential candidate, Richard M. Nixon. He appeared on the Tonight Show, as well as Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In - did a cameo where he exclaimed, "Sock it to me." Liberal trash. Didn’t know that. Guess my conceptions of propriety in this area are even more ‘antiquated’ than I’d assumed before. /Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #71 March 22, 2009 Quote Quote Quote I've thought about it a little today and am having a difficult time not thinking of a certain word... deliberate Perhaps I'm being slow at the moment ... I'm not following what you mean by "deliberate." Also not sure to whom "deliberate" refers? I was over-analyzing so I was having this feeling Obama's remark was intentional. To me the "Special Olympics" joke is on par with and just as juvenile as a "your momma" joke so I was having a difficult time wrapping my head around why Obama would make such a remark. But after watching the clip again it's fairly obvious the remark was 'off-the-cuff.' The look on Leno's face was priceless. So in the end I don't think it was that big of deal, however, it does say a lot about our President. Thanks for the clarification. I haven’t seen the Jay Leno video -- there’s a great Book TV show on CSPAN now about Nuclear Heuristics and have an iPod full of other things on things that are, imo, 'big deals', like the security situations in Iraq and Afghanistan -- so am completely speculating; reading what’s been posted here, I would speculate something along the line of [rweider]’s explanation: Quote Could it be possible that what he was referring to was that the special olympic personal were far better than him, thus cracking on himself? Probably because that might be something I would do too. Not reference Special Olympics but make fun of myself. But that may be over-analyzing on my part too. And to push further, perhaps, into over-analysis (& likely beyond responding to your clarification too), why is it a value for the President to be funny? He’s the President of the most powerful country in the world (yes, *still* for all those who will respond to that preposition phrase). Satirists have commentated on politicians, royalty, and heads of state for centuries: from Shakespeare to Lewis Carroll to Stephen Colbert. It's not a critique of satirical criticism. Being serious is seen liability to be diminished or mocked, e.g., see [chuckayers] response to my post above. If anyone should have the luxury/privilege/priority of taking himself seriously, it is the President. One does not have to default to jokes or to crude language to speak plainly. I dislike the trend in Presidential, other executives branch representatives, and Congressional Representatives (e.g., Barney Frank on the latter) behavior and the trend in behavior here to appeal to the lowest common denominator. It is perhaps, unrealistic or idealistic to expect us to be less than a mirror of our wider culture. /Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #72 March 22, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI guess it's a good thing that President Obama didn't attempt to make excuses and called the head of the Special Olympics immediately following the taping of the show (and prior to it airing) to apologize. Compare this to Gov. Palin, who is planning to turn down $170 million of stimulus funds for education, some of which would have gone to help special needs children, and then ask yourself who's the bigger ass hole and who's the bigger friend to those with this condition. Yep, I knew it - it took less than 5 minutes for someone to respond, running to Obama's rescue. If you want to talk about Gov. Palin, start a thread and let's discuss it. That has nothing to do with this and should stand on its' own if you take issue with it. And of course he apologized. That's called damage control and may or may not have any sincerity connected to it. Once again, the libs don't debate on merit. They just try to divert the conversation. Mr. Obama showed last night just what an absolute mindless, rude asshole he is. Okay, so now you've called the president an asshole twice, which should make you very happy. then you've gone after anyone who disagrees with your assessment, branding them a liberal, etc, etc. You don't want a forum, you want to pick a fight. so who'e the asshole now ? I know, I know....my first, last and final warning, don't even bother. I'm gone. What do you call a president that lowers himself to 7th grade "pick on the dumb guy" humor? It has nothing to do with making me happy. I have better ways to do that. This is about the President of the United States making comments expected from Jr. high school boys getting their first taste of testosterone. And where ya been on the whole liberal vs conservative debate? I'm not going after "anyone" who disagree with me. I'm going after "THE ONES" who disagree with me. Get over yourself. Like others your new and previously uncharacteristic turn to a serious and earnest nature does not yet resonate with me. Perhaps this is a change on your part - if yes, fabulous! I'm happy to be proven wrong if that is the case. You have choices [i.e., personal responsibility] on how you respond. Your choices can either prove [tbrown], me, and others wrong or demonstrate the alternative. /Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 425 #73 March 22, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote I guess it's a good thing that President Obama didn't attempt to make excuses and called the head of the Special Olympics immediately following the taping of the show (and prior to it airing) to apologize. Compare this to Gov. Palin, who is planning to turn down $170 million of stimulus funds for education, some of which would have gone to help special needs children, and then ask yourself who's the bigger ass hole and who's the bigger friend to those with this condition. Yep, I knew it - it took less than 5 minutes for someone to respond, running to Obama's rescue. If you want to talk about Gov. Palin, start a thread and let's discuss it. That has nothing to do with this and should stand on its' own if you take issue with it. And of course he apologized. That's called damage control and may or may not have any sincerity connected to it. Once again, the libs don't debate on merit. They just try to divert the conversation. Mr. Obama showed last night just what an absolute mindless, rude asshole he is. Okay, so now you've called the president an asshole twice, which should make you very happy. then you've gone after anyone who disagrees with your assessment, branding them a liberal, etc, etc. You don't want a forum, you want to pick a fight. so who'e the asshole now ? I know, I know....my first, last and final warning, don't even bother. I'm gone. What do you call a president that lowers himself to 7th grade "pick on the dumb guy" humor? It has nothing to do with making me happy. I have better ways to do that. This is about the President of the United States making comments expected from Jr. high school boys getting their first taste of testosterone. And where ya been on the whole liberal vs conservative debate? I'm not going after "anyone" who disagree with me. I'm going after "THE ONES" who disagree with me. Get over yourself. Like others your new and previously uncharacteristic turn to a serious and earnest nature does not yet resonate with me. Perhaps this is a change on your part - if yes, fabulous! I'm happy to be proven wrong if that is the case. You have choices [i.e., personal responsibility] on how you respond. Your choices will can either prove [tbrown], me, and others wrong or demonstrate the alternative. /Marg That's really disappointing. I live to resonate with you.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n23x 0 #74 March 22, 2009 Everybody should simply recall that the poster expressing so much outrage used the same moral fiber to generate this post. .jim"Don't touch my fucking Easter eggs, I'll be back monday." ~JTFC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #75 March 23, 2009 Your one warning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
