More Antarctic ice gone

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www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN03361051

Good job GW ended in 1998 isn't it, Mr Rush?

If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

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It's all part of the cycle - no need to assume that it's man-made.

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

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it is definitely part of the cycle. Dont tell industry that though. They like keeping people on bandwagons

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It's all part of the cycle - no need to assume that it's man-made.

It's all man-made - no need to assume that it's part of a cycle.

This too is an asinine statement.

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Climate change is melting glaciers. Here I thought terrorists were responsible.

Did the Wilkins Ice Shelf collapse yet? It's been imminent since 2005. It's lasted longer than was predicted. Which is shorter than predicted. Whatever - climate change is to blame. We know this because it the climate didn't change then the ice wouldn't change.

I note that there has been an unpredented lull in sunspots of late.

I also noted that stresses along the southern portion of the San Andreas fault have never been higher than now. It is predicted that sometime in the next 30 years, there will be movement of the earth's crust at a rate that exceeds all previous movement in the last 100 years. It is theorized that the stresses of human activity on the Pacific plate will cause the Pacific plate to suddenly release this stressful energy.

We also know that the tremendous glaciation in the northern hempisphere has been lost over the last several thousand years.

I know that within the next 10 years I will probably be significantly gray in the hair - if I don't lose the hair. and I could probably mention that such greying began when I had kids.

Problem: I've seen studies showing that the hottest recorded year on earth was 1934 - yes, even hotter than 1998. I see no reason to doubt that ice breaks up when warmth occurs. I see no reason to doubt that the waters of the Antarctic are warmer now than they were in 1900.

I see some reasonable doubt that human activity is the proximate cause. I see reason to believe that the earth is not as hot as 1998. If the earth was a degree above normal I'm 98 and a half degree above normal now we may expect stuff like this, right?

My wife is hotter than your wife.

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Did the Wilkins Ice Shelf collapse yet?

Pretty much. The remaining bits are about to go soon too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poKX6OnehTc
http://news.cnet.com/2300-11395_3-6235636-1.html

People might want to actually pay attention to this stuff rather than just keep denying it.

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Climate change is melting glaciers.

makes sense to me as well

stay away from moving propellers - they bite
blue skies from thai sky adventures
good solid response-provoking keyboarding

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www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN03361051

Good job GW ended in 1998 isn't it, Mr Rush?

You swallowed that hook so far it is in your colon

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

Fun aint it?

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/02/media_credibility_not_ice_caps_1.html

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN03361051
Good job GW ended in 1998 isn't it, Mr Rush?

You swallowed that hook so far it is in your colon

So you're finally admitting you've been doing nothing more than trolling?

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[rushmc 23]

Nothing like a good crisis to scare your minons into letting you control thier lives

http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/a_new_record_for_antartic_total_ice_extent

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

Not at all

HE is the one swallowing the medis enviro hype.

HE is the troller and you follow him

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=6502

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Nothing like a good crisis to scare your minons into letting you control thier lives

ooohh, it's another one of those scary spellers

stay away from moving propellers - they bite
blue skies from thai sky adventures
good solid response-provoking keyboarding

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Not at all

HE is the one swallowing the medis enviro hype.

HE is the troller and you follow him

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=6502

You know, if you actually would read what you link to first, you could avoid a lot of embarrassment.

Here's the updated page for that data AS LINKED TO FROM WITHIN THE PAGE YOU QUOTED.
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=8239

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[dreamdancer 0]

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HE is the one swallowing the medis enviro hype.

scary speller alert

stay away from moving propellers - they bite
blue skies from thai sky adventures
good solid response-provoking keyboarding

[rushmc 23]

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Nothing like a good crisis to scare your minons into letting you control thier lives

ooohh, it's another one of those scary spellers

Funny how the subject changes when you are getting it handed to you

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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Not at all

HE is the one swallowing the medis enviro hype.

HE is the troller and you follow him

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=6502

You know, if you actually would read what you link to first, you could avoid a lot of embarrassment.

Here's the updated page for that data AS LINKED TO FROM WITHIN THE PAGE YOU QUOTED.
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=8239

Exactly

A bit less subjective than the OP dont you think?

All of this backs my position that this is far from a done deal.

What about ALL the other links, or do you just pick the ones you agree with?

http://www.thehilltimes.ca/html/cover_index.php?display=story&full_path=/2007/august/13/letter4/&c=1

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

From what I posted first and the related link

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The Arctic


During October and November 2008 the extent of Arctic ice was 28.7 percent greater than during the same period in 2007. According to data published by the International Arctic Research Center (IARC/JAXA) October 2008 saw "the fastest ever growth" of Arctic Sea ice since records began. Not good news for doomsayers like Dr Mark Serreze of the National Snow and Ice Data Center. Dr Serreze had predicted an ice-free North Pole in the summer of 2008.

The related prediction for within the post

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/exclusive-no-ice-at-the-north-pole-855406.html

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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The Arctic has indeed undergone some warming in some areas, especially Greenland, a warming that culminated in a summer temperature high of 5 degrees C in 2007. The gradual melt has opened up the prospect of newly navigable seaways - and a rush for the Arctic's energy-rich deepwater reserves. The reality is, however, warming periods are nothing new to the Arctic. When the Vikings settled Greenland they grew crops in temperatures higher than those of today.


The media has also made much of the potential opening of the Northwest Passage. But it rarely mentions that similar weather patterns prevailed in the 1930s when two boats, the Nascopie and Aklavik, famously met up in the Passage in 1937. In October 2008, a study by Ohio University confirmed that current Arctic warming patterns mimic those in the 1920s-1940s. By July 2008 the Arctic ice had increased by nearly half a million square miles over the same first half year period in 2007. A NASA study published in the peer-reviewed Geophysical Research Letters in October 2007 had already noted that thinning Arctic ice was more likely the result of "unusual winds" that had blown "older thicker" ice into warmer southern waters. In other words, the Arctic warming experienced more recently could well be the result of the unusual strength of winds, not man-made warming.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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What about ALL the other links, or do you just pick the ones you agree with?

http://www.thehilltimes.ca/html/cover_index.php?display=story&full_path=/2007/august/13/letter4/&c=1

I certainly tend to discount single persons that just write letters to the editors of newspapers rather than writing scientific papers and publishing them in peer reviewed articles.

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Nothing like a good crisis to scare your minons into letting you control thier lives

ooohh, it's another one of those scary spellers

Funny how the subject changes when you are getting it handed to you

just concentrate on your spelling and you won't look so silly

stay away from moving propellers - they bite
blue skies from thai sky adventures
good solid response-provoking keyboarding

[rushmc 23]

You tend to po po anything with which you do not agree.

Much like the end stated here

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The facts adduced here represent just the tip of an under-reported iceberg (no pun intended). The fact that the world's ice mass is expanding not contracting is plainly of seismic importance in the climate debate. But, in many of its parts, the Western media appears to have a stake in freezing out the truth - having sold its journalistic soul for a mess of warm-mongering alarmist pottage.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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The Arctic has indeed undergone some warming in some areas, especially Greenland, a warming that culminated in a summer temperature high of 5 degrees C in 2007. The gradual melt has opened up the prospect of newly navigable seaways - and a rush for the Arctic's energy-rich deepwater reserves. The reality is, however, warming periods are nothing new to the Arctic. When the Vikings settled Greenland they grew crops in temperatures higher than those of today.


The media has also made much of the potential opening of the Northwest Passage. But it rarely mentions that similar weather patterns prevailed in the 1930s when two boats, the Nascopie and Aklavik, famously met up in the Passage in 1937. In October 2008, a study by Ohio University confirmed that current Arctic warming patterns mimic those in the 1920s-1940s. By July 2008 the Arctic ice had increased by nearly half a million square miles over the same first half year period in 2007. A NASA study published in the peer-reviewed Geophysical Research Letters in October 2007 had already noted that thinning Arctic ice was more likely the result of "unusual winds" that had blown "older thicker" ice into warmer southern waters. In other words, the Arctic warming experienced more recently could well be the result of the unusual strength of winds, not man-made warming.

And all this time I thought winds were caused by the gods farting.

Uh . . . strong winds ARE the result of differences in pressure brought about by . . . (wait for it) . . . temperature differences.

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[rushmc 23]

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Nothing like a good crisis to scare your minons into letting you control thier lives

ooohh, it's another one of those scary spellers

Funny how the subject changes when you are getting it handed to you

just concentrate on your spelling and you won't look so silly

Depends on which machine I am on. And as I have said before, I have trouble spelling and I am a bit lazy toward it (spelling) as well. But the meaning gets across most of the time. But, you can use my spelling problems to change the thread direction if you wish.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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You tend to po po anything with which you do not agree.

I tend to "po po" anything I see as shit.

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