jcd11235 0 #51 April 5, 2009 QuoteThe Sun will be getting further away and the daylight getting shorter and yet the temperature will be higher in July and August where I live. Have you ever taken a Trigonometry class? What about a Physics class that covered light and optics? I think you would find that there is a perfectly reasonable explanation for higher temperatures in California in July than in January, despite the earth being slightly farther from the sun.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #52 April 5, 2009 QuoteAnthropogenic global warming will continue until we humans make sufficient efforts to stop it, and perhaps only then if we do so in a timely manner. So when are you gonna stop jumping?If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #53 April 5, 2009 QuoteQuoteAnthropogenic global warming will continue until we humans make sufficient efforts to stop it, and perhaps only then if we do so in a timely manner. So when are you gonna stop jumping? No no no. This has nothing to do how they have to live! It is only about how you and I have to live. Big difference"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #54 April 5, 2009 QuoteQuoteAnthropogenic global warming will continue until we humans make sufficient efforts to stop it, and perhaps only then if we do so in a timely manner. So when are you gonna stop jumping? In late 2005, when I came to the conclusion that I could be a good (university) student or a good skydiver, but not both simultaneously. I also stopped driving (with two isolated exceptions) a couple years later (and rarely ride in motor vehicles since) in favor of walking and, more recently, bicycling. The probability is very high that I will return to one or both activities eventually, but for the time being, my carbon footprint is reasonably small.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #55 April 5, 2009 I aced trig. I never took physics. There are perfectly logical explanations. Duh. It was another of my sarcastic points... And no, the earth isn't further from the sun during those points. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #56 April 5, 2009 QuoteI aced trig. I never took physics. There are perfectly logical explanations. Duh. It was another of my sarcastic points... And no, the earth isn't further from the sun during those points. Excellent. Since orbital mechanics is your strong suit, now explain the geometry behind the analemma for us.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #57 April 5, 2009 QuoteAnd no, the earth isn't further from the sun during those points. Actually, it is. The earth is closest to the sun in January and farthest from the sun in July. "Earth moves in an elliptical orbit," says George Lebo, an astronomer at the NASA Marshall Space Flight Center. "We make our closest approach to the Sun (147.5 million km) in January -- that's called perihelion. We're at the greatest distance (152.6 million km), or aphelion, in July." Of course, if you don't think climatologists are more qualified than you to make accurate predictions about climate, then you might be reluctant to believe a NASA astronomer is more qualified than you to comment on astronomy.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #58 April 5, 2009 >I turned off my oven. Five minutes later it was still hot. A couple >hours later, it was still significantly warmer. I put another blanket on my bed. I was warmer afterwards. Was that just a "natural cycle" that had nothing to do with the blanket, or was it a result of retaining more heat? >My point on sunspots is that we are seeing something "unprecedented" in >its scope. ?? It happened back in 1913 as well. How is it "unprecedented?" > They've most likely happened before we recorded them, right? ?? Again, right, but what does that have to do with anything? We've detected lots of planets around other stars in the past 30 years. That doesn't mean that planets are appearing. It just means we have better telescopes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #59 April 5, 2009 Quote>I turned off my oven. Five minutes later it was still hot. A couple >hours later, it was still significantly warmer. I put another blanket on my bed. I was warmer afterwards. Was that just a "natural cycle" that had nothing to do with the blanket, or was it a result of retaining more heat? >My point on sunspots is that we are seeing something "unprecedented" in >its scope. ?? It happened back in 1913 as well. How is it "unprecedented?" > They've most likely happened before we recorded them, right? ?? Again, right, but what does that have to do with anything? We've detected lots of planets around other stars in the past 30 years. That doesn't mean that planets are appearing. It just means we have better telescopes. I see you do understand why you believe what you do......... Query then, why do you post what you do?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryzflies 0 #60 April 5, 2009 QuoteQuote>I turned off my oven. Five minutes later it was still hot. A couple >hours later, it was still significantly warmer. I put another blanket on my bed. I was warmer afterwards. Was that just a "natural cycle" that had nothing to do with the blanket, or was it a result of retaining more heat? >My point on sunspots is that we are seeing something "unprecedented" in >its scope. ?? It happened back in 1913 as well. How is it "unprecedented?" > They've most likely happened before we recorded them, right? ?? Again, right, but what does that have to do with anything? We've detected lots of planets around other stars in the past 30 years. That doesn't mean that planets are appearing. It just means we have better telescopes. I see you do understand why you believe what you do......... ? No-one can understand why you believe what you do, or why you post it.If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #61 April 5, 2009 Quote www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN03361051 Good job GW ended in 1998 isn't it, Mr Rush? And the temperature increase on Mars is obviously man-made by the Mars rover, right?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #62 April 5, 2009 Quote It's all part of the cycle - no need to assume that it's man-made. Usualy someone with such a fatuous attitude toward climate change is trying to justify their own contribution to the problem. I suppose you think the Sahara and the middle east are naturally arid landscapes too? The suggestion that people have no influence on the detriment of 'our' Earth, and that OUR Earth that we all share regardless of belief, is here is for humans to rape and pillage is nothing more than asinine. I have no repect whatsoever with that attitude. I am no tree hugger myself and realise I am contibuting my fair share of pollution, but to suggest that the rapid decline in the stability of nature, has nothing to do with human activity is naive and despicable. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #63 April 5, 2009 QuoteQuote www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN03361051 Good job GW ended in 1998 isn't it, Mr Rush? And the temperature increase on Mars is obviously man-made by the Mars rover, right? Quite. Follow the money - I be those Green money grabbers are having a heart attack now that we're in a recession - proper people wont give a shit about their Carbon Footprint nonsense when they can't feed their kids. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #64 April 5, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuote www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN03361051 Good job GW ended in 1998 isn't it, Mr Rush? And the temperature increase on Mars is obviously man-made by the Mars rover, right? Quite. Follow the money - I be those Green money grabbers are having a heart attack now that we're in a recession - proper people wont give a shit about their Carbon Footprint nonsense when they can't feed their kids. Fuck, the Goreacle® didn't give a shit about his carbon footprint BEFORE the recession, much less now....Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #65 April 5, 2009 #1 I did not say that we are NOT having an effect. I said that GW is NOT man made - there is a differenceMaybe it was all of the Thermite explosion on 119 that caused the problem (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #66 April 5, 2009 QuoteFollow the money - I be those Green money grabbers are having a heart attack now that we're in a recession - proper people wont give a shit about their Carbon Footprint nonsense when they can't feed their kids. follow the science (bankers follow the money) http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11462-climate-change-a-guide-for-the-perplexed.htmlstay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #67 April 5, 2009 Quote Quote Follow the money - I be those Green money grabbers are having a heart attack now that we're in a recession - proper people wont give a shit about their Carbon Footprint nonsense when they can't feed their kids. follow the science (bankers follow the money) http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11462-climate-change-a-guide-for-the-perplexed.html Does that also explain how we're causing the climate change (anyone else notice they're very careful to NOT call it "global warming" anymore? ) on Mars and Neptune, too?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #68 April 5, 2009 QuoteQuoteno, you're just grabbing bits and pieces off the internet without thought - big difference Like "Alternet"? QuoteAs for the idea that scientists change their tune to keep their paymasters happy, under the current US administration many scientists claim they have been pressurised to tone down findings relating to climate change. Indeed, those campaigning for action to prevent further warming have had to battle against huge vested interests, including the fossil-fuel industry and its many political allies. Many of the individuals and organisations challenging the idea of global warming have received funding from companies such as ExxonMobil. That in itself does not necessarily mean that the sceptics are wrong, of course. Nor does the fact that most scientists believe in climate change necessarily make it true. What counts is the evidence. And the evidence - that the world is getting warmer, that the warming is largely due to human emissions, and that the downsides of further warming will outweigh the positive effects - is very strong and getting stronger. http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11653stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #69 April 5, 2009 Quote Does that also explain how we're causing the climate change (anyone else notice they're very careful to NOT call it "global warming" anymore? ) on Mars and Neptune, too? sssshhhh, don't tell everyone else, but the un have already established secret bases on both those planets stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #70 April 5, 2009 QuoteDoes that also explain how we're causing the climate change (anyone else notice they're very careful to NOT call it "global warming" anymore? Tongue ) on Mars and Neptune, too shhhh oil is only $50 a barrel again, we can drive our piece of shit behemouth vehicles again and not feel bad about it! assholes."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #71 April 5, 2009 QuoteDoes that also explain how we're causing the climate change (anyone else notice they're very careful to NOT call it "global warming" anymore? Tongue ) on Mars and Neptune, too? Does anyone notice the selfish c#*ts not giving a shit because they couldn't care less!"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #72 April 5, 2009 Quote Does that also explain how we're causing the climate change (anyone else notice they're very careful to NOT call it "global warming" anymore? ) on Mars and Neptune, too? When the (dry) ice caps on Mars evaporate, what gas do you suppose is released? Hint: Dry ice is the frozen form of what compound?Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #73 April 5, 2009 Quote Quote Does that also explain how we're causing the climate change (anyone else notice they're very careful to NOT call it "global warming" anymore? ) on Mars and Neptune, too? When the (dry) ice caps on Mars evaporate, what gas do you suppose is released? Hint: Dry ice is the frozen form of what compound? Re-read the 6th word of my quoted post. Hint: it's between "how" and "causing"Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #74 April 5, 2009 QuoteRe-read the 6th word of my quoted post. Hint: it's between "how" and "causing" Sorry, I thought you were being sarcastic. I didn't realize that you actually believed that humans are causing temperatures to rise on Mars.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #75 April 5, 2009 QuoteQuoteRe-read the 6th word of my quoted post. Hint: it's between "how" and "causing" Sorry, I thought you were being sarcastic. I didn't realize that you actually believed that humans are causing temperatures to rise on Mars. I was being sarcastic - sorry you couldn't figure it out. I'll try to remember to use tags next time.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
