rushmc 23 #151 April 7, 2009 Quote Quote 4 - deification of the top leaders like what happens to anybody that claims man made global warming is a hoax? I think you just tripped over your own argument. If you look up "deification" in terms of global warming, you see a pic of Al Gore, not pics those weathermen or scientists that lost their jobs and funding for not following the party line. "Inconceivable" "I do not think that means what you think it means" Actully, I think the whole post was from the perspective you point out here. I was just "adding" to it. I couldnt help myself"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #152 April 7, 2009 >I'll try to explain once more. >1. Mars is warming. >2. Titan is warming. >3. Earth is warming. Uranus is cooling, and it's a planet, not a moon. Goodbye Denier Explanation #17. >Global warming adherent theory: We don't know exactly *why* Mars and Titan >are warming, but the warming on Earth is due to man-made events. Not quite. Climate scientist: We don't know exactly why Mars and Titan are warming, or why Uranus is cooling, but much of the warming on Earth is due to the increase in greenhouse gas concentrations. Climate change denier: We think that Mars is warming because the sun is increasing its output, but we have no clue what's happening here on Earth. And Uranus doesn't count because it's a moon or something. (one more time just for rehmwa - uranus) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #153 April 7, 2009 Quote>Uranus is cooling, ....... Uranus doesn't count (one more time just for rehmwa - uranus) snicker you're the best, man ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #154 April 7, 2009 Quote Uranus is cooling, and it's a planet, not a moon. Uranus is cooling because it's always eclipsed by your moon. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #155 April 7, 2009 Quote Quote Uranus is cooling, and it's a planet, not a moon. Uranus is cooling because it's always eclipsed by your moon. Uranus is a medium sized gas giant ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #156 April 7, 2009 A medium sized gas giant? It is not gigantic. It is merely huge. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #157 April 7, 2009 >It is not gigantic. It is merely huge. Dude, it's uranus! Maybe we should label the smaller gas giants like we label olives: Large Extra large Jumbo Giant Colossal Super colossal Mammoth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #158 April 7, 2009 Quote>It is not gigantic. It is merely huge. Dude, it's uranus! Maybe we should label the smaller gas giants like we label olives: Large Extra large Jumbo Giant Colossal Super colossal Mammoth What about Calamata gas giants?Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #159 April 7, 2009 >What about Calamata gas giants? Extra Virgin Calamata gas giants. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #160 April 7, 2009 Quote >I'll try to explain once more. >1. Mars is warming. >2. Titan is warming. >3. Earth is warming. Uranus is cooling, and it's a planet, not a moon. Goodbye Denier Explanation #17. >Global warming adherent theory: We don't know exactly *why* Mars and Titan >are warming, but the warming on Earth is due to man-made events. Not quite. Climate scientist: We don't know exactly why Mars and Titan are warming, or why Uranus is cooling, but much of the warming on Earth is due to the increase in greenhouse gas concentrations. Climate change denier: We think that Mars is warming because the sun is increasing its output, but we have no clue what's happening here on Earth. And Uranus doesn't count because it's a moon or something. (one more time just for rehmwa - uranus) No, Uranus is cooling and yes that's mooning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #161 April 7, 2009 Quote>What about Calamata gas giants? Extra Virgin Calamata gas giants. Extra virgin Uranus?Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #162 April 7, 2009 Quote Quote >What about Calamata gas giants? Extra Virgin Calamata gas giants. Extra virgin Uranus? California calls those VISITORS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #163 April 7, 2009 Quote You believe I should have the right to exercise my 'faith' without interruption from other 'faiths' unless my 'faith' has me polluting the planet frivolously (or doing something else you and your 'faith' don't agree with). Crazy If your hobby is saling boats, OK If your hobby is skydiving, Ok. Though you may have some opposition it is mostly accepted. If your hobby is stealing handbags or bullying people, then that is not Ok, it is mostly negative and has a strong negative effect on those around you. Just like intentionally polluting the planet with minimal postive imapact. I do understand that it is almost impossible now for us to live without pollution, it is a fact of life now, but what we actually do and what we are capable of doing are two separate things. You have to be fair, there are 6 billion+ others on this planet and we all should have the same rights. According to America it OK. for 1/20th of worlds the population to use 1/4 of the energy supplies? "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #164 April 8, 2009 Quote Quote You believe I should have the right to exercise my 'faith' without interruption from other 'faiths' unless my 'faith' has me polluting the planet frivolously (or doing something else you and your 'faith' don't agree with). Crazy If your hobby is saling boats, OK If your hobby is skydiving, Ok. Though you may have some opposition it is mostly accepted. If your hobby is stealing handbags or bullying people, then that is not Ok, it is mostly negative and has a strong negative effect on those around you. Just like intentionally polluting the planet with minimal postive imapact. I do understand that it is almost impossible now for us to live without pollution, it is a fact of life now, but what we actually do and what we are capable of doing are two separate things. You have to be fair, there are 6 billion+ others on this planet and we all should have the same rights. According to America it OK. for 1/20th of worlds the population to use 1/4 of the energy supplies? Should the US stop feeding large parts of the world? You have a totally misleading perspective. My answer to your question? Get over it, yes, it is ok Mommy taught me to take care of myself and not worry about what others have cause I will aways be worrying if I do. Your mommy did not teach you so well it seems"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #165 April 8, 2009 Quote Quote Quote You believe I should have the right to exercise my 'faith' without interruption from other 'faiths' unless my 'faith' has me polluting the planet frivolously (or doing something else you and your 'faith' don't agree with). Crazy If your hobby is saling boats, OK If your hobby is skydiving, Ok. Though you may have some opposition it is mostly accepted. If your hobby is stealing handbags or bullying people, then that is not Ok, it is mostly negative and has a strong negative effect on those around you. Just like intentionally polluting the planet with minimal postive imapact. I do understand that it is almost impossible now for us to live without pollution, it is a fact of life now, but what we actually do and what we are capable of doing are two separate things. You have to be fair, there are 6 billion+ others on this planet and we all should have the same rights. According to America it OK. for 1/20th of worlds the population to use 1/4 of the energy supplies? Should the US stop feeding large parts of the world? You have a totally misleading perspective. My answer to your question? Get over it, yes, it is ok Mommy taught me to take care of myself and not worry about what others have cause I will aways be worrying if I do. Your mommy did not teach you so well it seems the only thing the us feeds is its own greed (at the moment they're busy eating the planet)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #166 April 8, 2009 QuoteAccording to America it OK. for 1/20th of worlds the population to use 1/4 of the energy supplies? What is that population/energy use ratio for other countries, such as those in Europe or Canada? Is that OK? What level of energy use would you say is OK? Should there be limits enforced for energy use on the individual level, so that even a relatively wealthy person in Tibet is limited in their energy use? QuoteYou have to be fair, there are 6 billion+ others on this planet and we all should have the same rights. The rights all should share are the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The lack of those rights in much of the world is due to the unequal distribution of freedom, which will not be fixed by lowering the living standard of others.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #167 April 8, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote You believe I should have the right to exercise my 'faith' without interruption from other 'faiths' unless my 'faith' has me polluting the planet frivolously (or doing something else you and your 'faith' don't agree with). Crazy If your hobby is saling boats, OK If your hobby is skydiving, Ok. Though you may have some opposition it is mostly accepted. If your hobby is stealing handbags or bullying people, then that is not Ok, it is mostly negative and has a strong negative effect on those around you. Just like intentionally polluting the planet with minimal postive imapact. I do understand that it is almost impossible now for us to live without pollution, it is a fact of life now, but what we actually do and what we are capable of doing are two separate things. You have to be fair, there are 6 billion+ others on this planet and we all should have the same rights. According to America it OK. for 1/20th of worlds the population to use 1/4 of the energy supplies? Should the US stop feeding large parts of the world? You have a totally misleading perspective. My answer to your question? Get over it, yes, it is ok Mommy taught me to take care of myself and not worry about what others have cause I will aways be worrying if I do. Your mommy did not teach you so well it seems the only thing the us feeds is its own greed (at the moment they're busy eating the planet) you all are just plain funny!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #168 April 8, 2009 Quote the only thing the us feeds is its own greed (at the moment they're busy eating the planet) Coarse Grain exports: USA - 51,455 thousand metric tons Argentina - 12,215 thousand metric tons China - 8,525 thousand metric tons Wheat exports: USA - 28,500 thousand metric tons Australia - 15,000 thousand metric tons Canada - 14,500 thousand metric tons Corn exports: USA - 46,000 thousand metric tons Argentina - 11,500 thousand metric tons China - 8,500 thousand metric tons Now...you were saying? *FYI - saying "no it doesn't" isn't a rebuttal.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #169 April 8, 2009 Quotethe only thing the us feeds is its own greed (at the moment they're busy eating the planet) What level of consumption is not greed? Perhaps the standard of living in Afghanistan is your target? Basically the same question I just posed to rhys is at issue. Certainly the US emits a lot of CO2/person, but many countries with less consumption/person do a great deal of harm to the environment in terms of other nasty types of pollution. I'm sure it is much more satisfying to pick on the US than to criticize others.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryzflies 0 #170 April 8, 2009 How does commuting your single occupancy Hummer to work in LA, Houston or NYC contribute to growing grain for the poor?If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #171 April 8, 2009 QuoteHow does commuting your single occupancy Hummer to work in LA, Houston or NYC contribute to growing grain for the poor? [rushmc] So the US should quit feeding the world? [dreamdancer] The only thing the US feeds is it's own greed [mnealtx] Blows dreamdancer out of the water [jerryzflies] Uh....what? There's a reason why these discussions are called "threads"...and you just failed at it. DO try to keep up with the rest of the class, old chap.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryzflies 0 #172 April 8, 2009 Don't want to answer the question, eh? Not that I'm surprised.If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #173 April 8, 2009 Quote Don't want to answer the question, eh? Not that I'm surprised. How about you rebut my post showing that the US *does*, in fact, feed the rest of the world?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #174 April 8, 2009 the only thing the us feeds is its own ego (the delusional idiots who think that the us 'feeds the world' really should get an education) stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #175 April 8, 2009 Quote the only thing the us feeds is its own ego (the delusional idiots who think that the us 'feeds the world' really should get an education) World grain export figures show the lie in your statement - or should that be delusion? I'm not sure where YOU got your education from...but in MY school, saying "no it doesn't" over and over again didn't count as a rebuttal to an opposing point. So - did you have an ACTUAL response, or are you just going to follow your usual tactic and say "no it doesn't"?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
