President Obama ......

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pretty wife? I guess if are comparing her to an ape then yes. he face is like an ape...

I see racism is still alive and kicking in the good ol' US of A.

has nothing to do with race. her face looks like a monkeys, mainly in the cheeks. I don't care what color she is. although i guess you could say it was a little offensive to the primates.

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So was it only me that thought Helana Bonaham Carter was hot in Planet of the Apes? But no I don't fancy mrs Obama. I don't think she has a face like a ape or monkey (although she doesn't do herself any favours with her hair) Carla Bruni she ain't.


Mmmm... Carla Bruni

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
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I agree so far he has been a great statesman for his country in Europe.

Just because he says what you like doesn't make him a 'great statesman'. Only time will prove that true or false.

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He is clearly intelligent and articulate

Yeah, he does great teleprompter.

There once was a president listening to voice from above!

Better this time, right? Especially, when watching his speeches in Europe, I rarely saw teleprompters. He's doing a good job with his speeches.

Obviously, your chief and his wife do show much more healthy intelligence and charism than other office holders before - Obamas background is solid and presentable.

If you dislike the fact that Europeans seem to accept him: Enjoy it, you're living in a free country (OK, perhaps not right now but, ....)

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has nothing to do with race.

pull the other one why don't you

stay away from moving propellers - they bite
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The fact that European folks like our President and First Lady is pretty cool, I think. I haven't seen anything like it since John Kennedy and his wife. I think too, they show a lot of class. Some folks seem to have a real problem recognizing that fact.


Chuck

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That's true and more over is doing America no harm what so ever. Why can't 'they' see that that is a good thing?

Good luck to the guy. He's still got an awful lot of work to do.

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

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That's true and more over is doing America no harm what so ever. Why can't 'they' see that that is a good thing?

Good luck to the guy. He's still got an awful lot of work to do.

some of us (or "they" as you called us) differ with that statement in regards to his policies.

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That' beyond me! I wish him luck, also. What gets me is, the number of people in this country who have all the answers about running this country or anything else for that matter and I don't ever see any of their names on a ballot! Then too, it's always easier to criticise.


Chuck

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some of us (or "they" as you called us) differ with that statement in regards to his policies.

I accept that some believe that - wouldn't be fun if we all thought the same.... but compared to the last one (who really did do loads of damage and not only to America!!). OB looks for now to be doing O.K.


Also it's worth remembering that OB did NOT get the country into the state that it currentloy is - someone((s) else did but he at least is trying to fix it.

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

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some of us (or "they" as you called us) differ with that statement in regards to his policies.

I accept that some believe that - wouldn't be fun if we all thought the same.... but compared to the last one (who really did do loads of damage and not only to America!!). OB looks for now to be doing O.K.


Also it's worth remembering that OB did NOT get the country into the state that it currentloy is - someone((s) else did but he at least is trying to fix it.

Oh you mean he just got into elected office?

Did you forget he was a senator during the fiasco that caused the crisis?

He was also against welfare reforms.

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So would you really want to see the likes of the last one back again?

People over here (at least) are willing to give him and America a chance again, lifting the flagging reputation - how can that be a bad thing?

The jurry is out on the policies but he is shining as a statesman, which is a step in the right [sic] direction.

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

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Give him a chance and you will see he is just another player from the same team.


He is just a damned salesman and you are falling for it.

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Maybe...... maybe not.

I know that he's a politician and I have an inbuilt distrust of them too but sometimes you just have to hope.

Time, as they say, will tell.

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

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some of us (or "they" as you called us) differ with that statement in regards to his policies.

I accept that some believe that - wouldn't be fun if we all thought the same.... but compared to the last one (who really did do loads of damage and not only to America!!). OB looks for now to be doing O.K.


Also it's worth remembering that OB did NOT get the country into the state that it currentloy is - someone((s) else did but he at least is trying to fix it.

As noted above, President Obama DID infact have some responsiblity for the condition of the country at the beginning of his term. The elected officials DO HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY to the people. They do SHOULD vote on and approve the policy that goes through the House and the Senate. There are CHECKS AND BALANCES... it's not ALL the Presidents fault. Nor is it all President Obamas fault right now with some of the issues.... For example: If a bill is passed giving publically traded companies government monies, and then they whine about what was in it when it was signed (did they NOT read it before signing, or did they know but decided to use this as a scape goat tactic) ... but then the President passes MORE laws about bad and evil CEO's.... There is MORE THAN ENOUGH blame to go around there.

And as to why I'm not on the ballot?

Honestly because I truly think that I'm doing more good helping the local women here than I would accomplish in politics. I DO KNOW ABOUT POLITICS. I just buried my step dad this past weekend, John L. Merkt .... He was VERY active in politics and a man that I was proud of.... but I always did joke with him that he WAS a politician.... and he and I would discuss politcs together... and I didn't always agree with some of his policies either.

I want government to be more hands off... so why would I want to get more into it?!

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The fact that European folks like our President and First Lady is pretty cool, I think. I haven't seen anything like it since John Kennedy and his wife. I think too, they show a lot of class. Some folks seem to have a real problem recognizing that fact.


Chuck

Hi there, Chuck!

Exactly that. Class! Both of them. If her a** is too fat for some guys or not does not really count.

Both of them show brain, style and class. And having a look at his career, he's a bit more than just a "salesman".

I still wonder why so many of your fellow countryman disliked it from the beginning (f.e. his 1st visit to Germany) that Europeans seem to accept him.

Perhaps sabre-rattling is more impressive for these folks?
Making a lot of noise does not show superiority. A "Mission accomplished" tooting under false terms no longer is convincing.

Obama was NOT coming to Europe as a solicitant but, with many requirements towards Europe and as the delegate of the US. Apparentely, not everybody knows it.

He is representing his country in a clever way. Give him a vote of confidence.

dudeist skydiver # 3105

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> he face is like an ape and she has a fat ass . . .

Well, who can argue with such an erudite analysis of Obama's policies? With persuasive arguments like that, the republican party is sure to do well in the coming years.

Hmmm i didnt think this thread was so policy based. Man thanks for setting all of us straight! You are always on the for front of what the OP really meant to post! Thanks again BTW I think the liberals have plenty to worry about besides the conservatives. Be carefull with those stones in that glass house of yours!

So sorry. What a fool I am.

I felt quite sure my poor English skills would explain enough - it was politically based, Mr. Tractor !!

dudeist skydiver # 3105

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The fact that European folks like our President and First Lady is pretty cool, I think. I haven't seen anything like it since John Kennedy and his wife. I think too, they show a lot of class. Some folks seem to have a real problem recognizing that fact.


Chuck

Hi there, Chuck!

Exactly that. Class! Both of them. If her a** is too fat for some guys or not does not really count.

Both of them show brain, style and class. And having a look at his career, he's a bit more than just a "salesman".

I still wonder why so many of your fellow countryman disliked it from the beginning (f.e. his 1st visit to Germany) that Europeans seem to accept him.

Perhaps sabre-rattling is more impressive for these folks?
Making a lot of noise does not show superiority. A "Mission accomplished" tooting under false terms no longer is convincing.

Obama was NOT coming to Europe as a solicitant but, with many requirements towards Europe and as the delegate of the US. Apparentely, not everybody knows it.

He is representing his country in a clever way. Give him a vote of confidence.

Christel,

I would thank you for giving my opinion the respect that you seem to think that you deserve.... but you don't give my opinion any respect so no thanks are due.

As far as President Obama goes:
Some people like him. Some are more guarded. I am concerned about the direction that he seems to be taking my country. If you like him, fine. But... he is NOT your President. He is mine. And his FIRST responsibility is to the "We, the People." WE, the United States citizens, elected him. So, although you think he's cool, that is not nearly as important as whether WE think he's truly moving this country in a direction that WE want it to go.

I don't complain about or critique Prime Minister James Gordon Brown. I tend to keep my opinion in check about Queen Elizabeth II. I don't review the works of President Kohler nor should I. President Alvaro COLOM Caballeros is responsible to the people of Guatemala. Emperor Akihito is ruling in Japan and NOT signing law that directly impacts my life, so I have no voice in his decisions. I tend not to stick my nose into other countries politics... especially when I don't understand or give respect to the members of that country.

But, thinking back... I do believe that MANY on this forum were complaining about US interference in other countries leadership in the not so distant past.

So... which is it?

Or is it that YOU get to decide when YOU like our leaders.... but we, as a nation as a whole, get blamed when our leadership doesn't like others.

You are right that it is important to play well with others. And maybe President Obama is putting on a good show.... but maybe there's more to the opinions of others than you give credit.

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very good post. when i posted earlier i did not know that policies were being talked about. just the window dressing of the president and first lady.

Your comments on "he is our president not theirs" means to me that he should be working for our best intrests and not theirs. I get worried when other people start liking the change in policies expecially if they are countries that don't like us much. One has to wonder if the policy changes are for our best intrest or theirs?

I don't live in in other countries because I feel ours is better than the rest and I wouldn't like our country becoming like them. People from all over the world have come here because they have a better chance for a good life here.

Through skidiving I have met alot of people from other countries and they are enamored with our country and love the freedoms and opertunities that come with living here. Why change what millions of people have sought for and traveled far to find? What other country can say they have millions of people from hundreds of countries seeking what they have to offer? Our president should be protecting the way of life we have now, not trying to change it to what others have tried to leave.

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>means to me that he should be working for our best intrests and not theirs.

I think he should be working for both. The US should always take priority, but if it's all the same to us, we should also be choosing policies that help our allies and countries we're friendly with. After all, that's what we want other countries to do for us.

>Through skidiving I have met alot of people from other countries and they
>are enamored with our country and love the freedoms and opertunities that come
>with living here.

A bit of selection bias there. Outside the US opinions are considerably more varied. I think the US is great, but I don't think it's the best in every way for everyone - and we shouldn't decide how to run our country based on how many foreigners want to emigrate.

I know several skydivers who go to Sweden for surgery because it's cheaper and better than what is available in the US. Does that mean we should be more like Sweden? Or should we make our own decisions on that?

I know a lot of US companies who move their operations to China because it's cheaper to make stuff there. Does that mean we should be more like China? Or should we make our own decisions on that?

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Howdy, Christel!

I agree with you! Good Lord, give the guy a chance. So many folks here in the good ol' U.S. of A., are falling into the internet rumors, bawlin' and squallin' and running for cover and the man hasn't been in office four months! Maybe, the man is too intelligent and speaks 'properly', for some folks to handle!? As for Mrs. Obama's 'physical appearance', I think, she looks great and those who have something ugly to say about either of their appearance, doesn't deserve a response. I guess, too many folks are still upset that the chubby little sabre rattler with the blonde 'arm charm' didn't win. Maybe, Mr. Obama just might bring-back good relations with our European neighbors and some class back to the White House. Looks like, he's off to a good start.


Chuck

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I feel ours is better than the rest

Why? What do you feel makes it so?

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

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The economic damage he was willing to sign will damage us for the next 50 years.

As for giving him a chance, were you so willing to give any other president a chance if he were not a liberal?

I guess you feel that Obama repealing welfare reform and applying it on the basis of race is fine.

Call it reparations, but don't lie about what it is meant to do.

Providing generational welfare is about making sure a voting block is entirely dependent upon the party.

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Sure did! In fact, I voted for GWB... twice! How's that for giving a guy a chance? All I'm saying is, who ever our president is... give him a chance! Our Senate and Congress DON'T have to go along with him on anything. We do have a 'checks and balance system'. I really haven't checked-out his ideas on welfare... but, I will now. Why would I lie about it? I think, you might be jumpin' the gun, just a little. Let's see, how it goes. The President CAN be voted down.


Chuck

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I feel ours is better than the rest

Why? What do you feel makes it so?

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I am not saying other countries don't have good things about them, just that the US has the best of most countries. The US was built by people trying to escape something that their country had. When the constitution was wrote trying to eliminate the negatives of other countries. We have a country that gives anyone the ability to do or become what ever a person desires to do or become. People from all corners of the earth have come here to escape pursicution, heavy handed dictatorships, opression of religion, and the burden of government taxes. The US has been the greatest country in the world to live for a long time because anyone with drive, ambition, and desire can make a good life for themselves and their families and leave something for their kids to live a good life without them being subject to opressive government rule.

The people that make up this country have given up their status, fortunes, and even their lives for the chance to live the life we have today. Our way of life should be cherrished and protected. The people that have died defending this country and it's freedoms should be honored by protecting the freedoms they sacrificed for and continuing to make them better and available to as many as possible.

we are not a country of one people we are the accumulation of the best of all countries and people. Unfortunately we have allowed the things we left behind in our country of origon to become entrenched in our society and are in danger of loosing what 200 years of blood sacrifice and death have protected by becoming what we left.

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The economic damage he was willing to sign will damage us for the next 50 years.

As for giving him a chance, were you so willing to give any other president a chance if he were not a liberal?

I guess you feel that Obama repealing welfare reform and applying it on the basis of race is fine.

Call it reparations, but don't lie about what it is meant to do.

Providing generational welfare is about making sure a voting block is entirely dependent upon the party.

Maybe you should build a panic room and hide in it for the next 8 years.

If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.