jclalor 12 #26 April 21, 2009 Any idea how much alcohol cost society in lives and treasure? Sounds like you should check those numbers out. From your other post on your personal drinking habits, sounds like your drug of choice is booze instead of food. How many people are killed from fatties compared to people trying to drive to work after drinking 2 hours earlier? You are a greater threat to people than any obese person is. This in one fucking hypocriticle post. You should also look at lost productivity from people that come in drunk or hungover to work. Drunks are a far greater threat to my family and I compared to the obeses. What a fucking joke. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philh 0 #27 April 21, 2009 Gq Jumper you say we should be upset that obese people may be worsening the climate problem by the increase iin fuel loads they demand. This is a good point. Another good point is that vegetarians should feel the same way about meat eaters. As a vegetarian myself I certainly do. Pound for pound meat produces 36 times more C02 equivalent production than say aspargus. http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=the-greenhouse-hamburger Physics world recently published an article claiming we could drastically reduce green house gases by simply switching to a veggie diet. http://www.physorg.com/news4998.html So I can onlly presume you feel just as strongly about these selfish meat eaters, am I right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #28 April 21, 2009 But Phil a bacon butty just taste sooo much better than a Tofu one (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #29 April 21, 2009 This is just a blurb from one abstract, but you can find more of this research easily enough. But basically, there are a lot of caveats in the "overweight" debate, and there's not a good health reason to disparage people, across the board, who are overweight. Of course there's never a GOOD reason to belittle people, but some folks are just apt to do that anyway. Obesity Research (2004) 12, 1370–1374; doi: 10.1038/oby.2004.173 Independent Association of Hip Circumference with Metabolic Profile in Different Ethnic Groups QuoteResults: In all ethnic groups, larger hip circumference was associated with lower glucose and triglyceride levels in both sexes and higher high-density lipoprotein levels in women only, after adjustment for waist circumference, BMI, and age. Adjustment for height or leptin did not materially change the results. Discussion: In conclusion, we confirmed the protective association of relatively larger hips in four nonwhite ethnic groups. Leptin does not seem to play a mediating role in this association. -- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,445 #30 April 21, 2009 Woohoo! Love that heart-healthy pear shape All that said, one of the big contributors to obesity is the decrease in daily incidental exercise for most people. It was a lot easier for most people to be thinner when cars didn't take you 1/2 mile, when a much larger percentage worked on farms, and even office jobs involved getting up to get things from files. Even then, the banker and executives (who moved less) had the image of being portly. People's bodies naturally accumulate fat. It's what they're supposed to do in the good times so that the bad times don't kill them. The fact that the paradigm doesn't really apply doesn't affect nature, only (some people's) intellect. Wendy P. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryzflies 0 #31 April 21, 2009 Quote According to my BMI I'm obese. I'm 6'1" and weigh 265lbs. Am I over weight? Yup, actually I'm kind of fat. Am I obese? I don't think so. I also bench 50lbs over my weight for reps. Do I care that since I'm "obese" that you think personally have a problem with me? Nope. As a side note, in my physical last year my blood pressure was fine, my heart is strong and my cholesterol is good. Here's a recent picture. Sorry that its a serious "I'm a dork" picture, but its all I've got right now. What do you think? Does my obesity offend you? EDIT: forgot to attach the picture Scary dude!If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryzflies 0 #32 April 21, 2009 Quote>So next time you feel like calling someone insensitive for complaining about >overweight people maybe you should take a second to consider how >inconsiderate the overweight are to the rest of us. ?? Do overweight people really bother you that much? They don't bother me (provided they're not trying to knock me down or sit on me or something.) . Would that include overlapping your seat in the coach section of the plane?If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zoom1 0 #33 April 21, 2009 gq , maybe everyone doesnt want to live your lifestyle, this is the usa not commieland ,people can live the way they want. people should mind thier own fucking self-rightous business. if you dont like fat people dont fucking look at them.how about people who try to make people skinny , how come i cant get whole milk at mcdonalds? everytime i eat there all i get is some watered down shit called low fuckin fat, i weight 150 pounds i dont want low fuckin fat milk i want real fuckin milk. who's the commie pig fuckin mother fucker who says i cant have real milk with my big fuckin mac.is this what we want some self rightous dictator telling us we cant drink whole milk couse we might get fat and use more gas when we drive our own cars and are burning our own gas.i smell socialism Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philh 0 #34 April 21, 2009 Shropshire, you need to try the bacon flavoured tofu butty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #35 April 21, 2009 [shudder] (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #36 April 21, 2009 Ok I have to know...Whats a "butty"? And how good are they?Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #37 April 21, 2009 Bread and Butter - a sarny - a piece - a butty - a sandwich (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philh 0 #38 April 21, 2009 Of course the great example is also veggie: the chip butty. Ingredients: Chips (in the USA french fries) Bread Butter Voila a chip butty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #39 April 21, 2009 ummmmmm Chip Butties (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #40 April 21, 2009 QuoteOf course the great example is also veggie: the chip butty. Ingredients: Chips (in the USA french fries) Bread Butter Voila a chip butty. but not vegan. People here would still complain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zep 0 #41 April 21, 2009 Quote ummmmmm Chip Butties You aint lived till you've tried my snail butty with lashings of real alioli all washed down with drain cleaner Gone fishing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #42 April 21, 2009 B'stard .... See you next weekend (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #43 April 21, 2009 QuoteQuoteOf course the great example is also veggie: the chip butty. Ingredients: Chips (in the USA french fries) Bread Butter Voila a chip butty. but not vegan. People here would still complain. Oh wouldn't find too many people complaining about a good chip butty ..... not sane ones, anyway.... Pass the ketchup, please. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #44 April 21, 2009 So a rant about overweight people turns into a discussion about, what sounds like, completely unhealthy english food. Nice!www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #45 April 21, 2009 moderation in everything mate. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #46 April 21, 2009 Quote Of course the great example is also veggie: the chip butty. Ingredients: Chips (in the USA french fries) Bread Butter Voila a chip butty. but not vegan. People here would still complain. Oh wouldn't find too many people complaining about a good chip butty ..... not sane ones, anyway.... Pass the ketchup, please. French fries on a sandwhich? Are you kidding me? ....that's awesome! ....btw, what do you guys call chips....crunchies?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #47 April 21, 2009 1st off they're not French Fries... they're Chipsand what you folks call chips are really Crisps. Oh and never, for one minute think that those shitty things that one gets in McDs are Chips - they're not, not by a very large margin - fuck knows what they are, but they ain't chips - scrawny bits of crap. We demand proper big fat chips cooked in beef dripping!! Jeeze people .... how difficult is it? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #48 April 21, 2009 Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #49 April 21, 2009 Oh and Crisp butties are pretty good too (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #50 April 21, 2009 I was just thinking that also.... no ketchup though... Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites