Tink1717 2 #1 April 21, 2009 What's it to you that Obama uses a telepromter? I mean, seriously, WTF?Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #2 April 21, 2009 Why did orators in the past entirely memorize their speaches? I don't see how this is a partisan question? Put this 'right winger' down on the who really cares list."The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #3 April 21, 2009 QuoteWhy did orators in the past entirely memorize their speaches? I don't see how this is a partisan question? Because in the days of old, they didn't have the technology AND they wrote their own speeches for the most part. Those days are over. It's a partisan issue because the right wing media (Fox, Beck, O'Rielly) are foaming at the mouth over it. Also, there was a huge number of signs at the tax day tea parties that were bitching about it.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #4 April 21, 2009 QuoteWhat's it to you that Obama uses a telepromter? I mean, seriously, WTF? In general, it doesn't matter to me. What does matter to me is that in the candid moments, on important issues, without a teleprompter, he hasn't put together a cogent thought much of the time. Okay fine, it happens, I can accept that, lord knows it happened a lot with President Bush. The turning point for me, was when he needed to use one to introduce a nominee for his cabinet (I think it was for HHS). The introduction was less than 30 seconds, and he couldn't use an index card to touch on two or three bullet points before relinquishing the lectern? Sorry, he's too reliant on it. President Bush's weakness with using a teleprompter was that he's dyslexic (like his father), and while he didn't enunciate well, he was sharp off the cuff much of the time, and when the cameras weren't on him, you forgot who you were talking to...he's so matter of fact. I've not met President Obama, so I can't compare those latter points. He's got the charisma, so it's probably a non-issue. On the whole though, it's too much canning, too much calculation.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piper17 1 #5 April 21, 2009 Why does it bother you that "right wingers" laugh at Obama's reliance on the teleprompter and sometimes refer to him as the "wizard of ahs"?"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #6 April 21, 2009 Quote "wizard of ahs" Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #7 April 21, 2009 It doesn't bother me one bit that the right has their panties in a bunch over this. It just puzzles me that they would get wound up over such a trivial issue. I mean there is so much more substantive issue that they could go after, but a telepromter? Really?Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #8 April 21, 2009 QuoteIt's a partisan issue because the right wing media (Fox, Beck, O'Rielly) are foaming at the mouth over it. Also, there was a huge number of signs at the tax day tea parties that were bitching about it. I actually hope they keep doing that, because the more they do it, the more - what's that term? ah! - goat fuck stupid - they will appear to swing/independent voters, who will find them to be repulsive and vote Democratic. Again. Keep it up, boys - baby needs new Bierkenstocks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,409 #9 April 21, 2009 Whereas, Clinton wrote two emails his entire time in office... Obama is a lot more techo-savvy. Hence, the specially encrypted crackberry so he can text his kids and other schtuff. I'd sure rather he use the teleprompter than seeing one more fucking PowerPoint presentation in my lifetime.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #10 April 21, 2009 QuoteQuoteWhy did orators in the past entirely memorize their speaches? I don't see how this is a partisan question? Because in the days of old, they didn't have the technology AND they wrote their own speeches for the most part. Those days are over. It's a partisan issue because the right wing media (Fox, Beck, O'Rielly) are foaming at the mouth over it. Also, there was a huge number of signs at the tax day tea parties that were bitching about it. They are just pissed that he can actually use the technology and is actually intelligent enough to read it without blowing his lines like their guy did with such comic regularity. Teleprompters have been used for many years.... some people who can read...use them to great advantage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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champu 1 #12 April 21, 2009 Some of these thread titles make me a sad panda. I understand speakers corner serves as an outlet for a lot of politically polarized (sometimes comical in their triviality) topics, but do we really need to make political polarization THE topic of the thread? So tell me, do any of you douchebags have a douchebag opinion on this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #13 April 21, 2009 You can't stop people from polarizing into groups around a commonality. The damage is done. If we are ever going to fox it we need to understand it. That's why I posted. I'm trying to understand why it OK for the right to use telepromters, but not the left.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BDashe 0 #14 April 21, 2009 Quote Quote It's a partisan issue because the right wing media (Fox, Beck, O'Rielly) are foaming at the mouth over it. Also, there was a huge number of signs at the tax day tea parties that were bitching about it. I actually hope they keep doing that, because the more they do it, the more - what's that term? ah! - goat fuck stupid - they will appear to swing/independent voters, who will find them to be repulsive and vote Democratic. Again. Keep it up, boys - baby needs new Bierkenstocks. Ah yes, the dz.com requirement on using the word f*ck. F*cktard, F*ckery, goat f*ck stupid... you are just so f*cking funny!!! "anyone that doesn't agree with me must be a mental midget, so i will insult them and tie f*ck in there somehow..." Anyway, it's a waste of air time when they go on and on about the teleprompter. I think it is fine if they mention how reliant he is on it, cuz that just isnt normal behavior of a person- living a scripted life, it's phony. I think it is awesome that he is so tech savvy compared to pretty much everyone. Let's face it- Obama on every level is the polar opposite to your stereotypical republican. It just makes you wonder if they guy has any original thoughts. I wouldn't mind seeing him speak as if he is human vs. a computer, would make me feel like i could at least trust the guy. I thought it was great on Leno with the special olympics comment, only time I've ever been able to identify with him, but i'm sure he is now terrified to speak his natural thoughts publicly, which sucks. That is weak sauce leadership in the real world... though politics i suppose is about as far from the real world as you can get. so ultimately, who gives a f*ck? So there I was... Making friends and playing nice since 1983 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piper17 1 #15 April 21, 2009 You mean like reading the speech of the visiting head of state instead of his own???"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #16 April 21, 2009 QuoteWhat's it to you that Obama uses a telepromter? I mean, seriously, WTF? Because clearly he's the first President to ever use one? Just a couple of links; http://static.open.salon.com/files/bush_on_abe_lincoln_mission_accomplished_small-thumb-425x2781238202925.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Clinton1997SOTU.jpg http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/sharemed/targets/images/pho/t041/T041653A.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TYvlC8IxUPM/ScmXfacw02I/AAAAAAAABxc/zAOkLIa_7K4/s400/reagan_presenting_budget_congress_400.jpgquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #17 April 21, 2009 Just a little trivia here: Clinton's promter in the 1997 address, was out for the first two thirds of the speech. He did it off the top of his head until it kicked in.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 426 #18 April 21, 2009 QuoteWhat's it to you that Obama uses a telepromter? I mean, seriously, WTF? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xcChuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #19 April 22, 2009 Quote In Reply To What's it to you that Obama uses a telepromter? I mean, seriously, WTF? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc Um... So?Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #20 April 22, 2009 QuoteWhereas, Clinton wrote two emails his entire time in office... Obama is a lot more techo-savvy. In fairness to Bill, Al was still inventing it during his time in office. (I did get my first BB in 1998, though thankfully went without it from 1999 until this year when I requested one for my convenience rather than work's.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpenfool 2 #21 April 22, 2009 I don't have a problem with using a teleprompter. Hell, Bush's people used a cartoon character! ...What, that was really him?? Really???? Holy shit! Your kidding, right?? All those years I thought that was like a Bevis and Butthead thing.Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BDashe 0 #22 April 22, 2009 Another good one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GaU-ExYm30&feature=related doesnt mean much, all regular public speakers suck sometimes, just funny when he doesn't have his prompter- it's more noticeable. you could put bush's voice to all these as well, same thing, just trying to get their agenda through the process. No change, no hope, just politics.So there I was... Making friends and playing nice since 1983 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingOsh 0 #23 April 22, 2009 Most of the main points have been hit. I personally don't see a huge deal with it. What's funny to me is that the left called Bush a puppet for so many years. Now their guy can't put together a 30 second introduction without someone writing if for him and literally holding it right in front of his eyes. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
auburnguy 0 #24 April 22, 2009 Is this a real thread or was it meant to be a joke?"If you don't like your job, you don't strike! You just go in every day, and do it really half assed. That's the American way." - Homer Simpson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
