rushmc 23 #76 May 13, 2009 Quote You feel terminology is more important than equality? I disagree. (But I don't think our difference of opinion warrants anything more than spirited debate, I certainly would not try to dig up "Questionable" Photographs and try to ruin you with them over something like this.) No, I feel tradition and definition are important. Civil unions so all can have legal standing under law is all I want. Men and women get married."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #77 May 13, 2009 Quote Quote You feel terminology is more important than equality? I disagree. (But I don't think our difference of opinion warrants anything more than spirited debate, I certainly would not try to dig up "Questionable" Photographs and try to ruin you with them over something like this.) No, I feel tradition and definition are important. Civil unions so all can have legal standing under law is all I want. Men and women get married. What do you prefer it to be called when people of different races marry? That used to be illegal until we redefined marriage. What do you prefer it to be called when women vote? That used to be illegal too. Do you think that President Obama should have some sort of different special title? When we first had presidents, black people were still considered property. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #78 May 13, 2009 Quote Quote Quote A little thing we like to call 'tolerance.' something that seems to be missing from the left these days. Without a doubt....... Both sides are pretty intolerant... Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,006 #79 May 13, 2009 >something that seems to be missing from the left these days. Given the hatred exhibited by the right wing toward illegal immigrants, muslims, liberals and gays, it looks like both sides have some issues with tolerance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #80 May 13, 2009 Quote the one that should be attacked it the Hiton idiot.... This is available in AE? dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #81 May 13, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote A little thing we like to call 'tolerance.' something that seems to be missing from the left these days. Without a doubt....... Both sides are pretty intolerant... Not in this case"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #82 May 13, 2009 Quote >something that seems to be missing from the left these days. Given the hatred exhibited by the right wing toward illegal immigrants, muslims, liberals and gays, it looks like both sides have some issues with tolerance. If hatred means following the law? Well I guess in a distorted way you are correct. Fuck me for wanting someone to follow the law and then being called a hate monger or bigot for it. Damn slick Bill....."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #83 May 13, 2009 Quote Quote Quote You feel terminology is more important than equality? I disagree. (But I don't think our difference of opinion warrants anything more than spirited debate, I certainly would not try to dig up "Questionable" Photographs and try to ruin you with them over something like this.) No, I feel tradition and definition are important. Civil unions so all can have legal standing under law is all I want. Men and women get married. What do you prefer it to be called when people of different races marry? That used to be illegal until we redefined marriage. What do you prefer it to be called when women vote? That used to be illegal too. Do you think that President Obama should have some sort of different special title? When we first had presidents, black people were still considered property. And where in all the cases you list was a defiinition changed? Answer, no where."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,006 #84 May 13, 2009 >If hatred means following the law? Nope! Heck, I don't hate you, even though I bet you break the speed limit every once in a while. >Fuck me for wanting someone to follow the law and then being called a >hate monger or bigot for it. No thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #85 May 13, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote You feel terminology is more important than equality? I disagree. (But I don't think our difference of opinion warrants anything more than spirited debate, I certainly would not try to dig up "Questionable" Photographs and try to ruin you with them over something like this.) No, I feel tradition and definition are important. Civil unions so all can have legal standing under law is all I want. Men and women get married. What do you prefer it to be called when people of different races marry? That used to be illegal until we redefined marriage. What do you prefer it to be called when women vote? That used to be illegal too. Do you think that President Obama should have some sort of different special title? When we first had presidents, black people were still considered property. And where in all the cases you list was a defiinition changed? Answer, no where. ??? A marriage between a black person and a white person of the opposite sex was not recognized as a legal marriage until 1967. Today when a black person and a white person of the opposite sex get married, we call that a marriage. That is a change in the definition of marriage. Quite simple really. The definition was expanded to include people who were historically excluded. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #86 May 13, 2009 Quotebleached-blonde, fake-boobed, too much face paint chick How dare she be attractive!! Burn her!! ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #87 May 13, 2009 Quote >If hatred means following the law? Nope! Heck, I don't hate you, even though I bet you break the speed limit every once in a while. >Fuck me for wanting someone to follow the law and then being called a >hate monger or bigot for it. No thanks! "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyBoyd 0 #88 May 14, 2009 QuoteQuotebleached-blonde, fake-boobed, too much face paint chick How dare she be attractive!! Burn her!! Is that your idea of attractive? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,006 #89 May 14, 2009 >Burn her!! Hey, whatever floats your boat! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmyfitz 0 #90 May 14, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuotebleached-blonde, fake-boobed, too much face paint chick How dare she be attractive!! Burn her!! Is that your idea of attractive? Yep, I think that this pic would qualify as attractive unless you hate her for her opinion or you are blind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #91 May 14, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuotebleached-blonde, fake-boobed, too much face paint chick How dare she be attractive!! Burn her!! Is that your idea of attractive? Movie - Liar, Liar (Jim Carrey) "Daddy, my teacher says people are beautiful based on what's on the inside" "That's just something ugly people say, arrrrghhhh" admit it, you laughed at that line in the movie and sure, that woman is very pretty - but I'm sure you scored a lot of points with the PC crowd crowd here by belittling her physical looks....... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #92 May 14, 2009 Quote>something that seems to be missing from the left these days. Given the hatred exhibited by the right wing toward illegal immigrants, muslims, liberals and gays, it looks like both sides have some issues with tolerance. the right doesn't spew near the amount of hate as the left. the left has be beating the tolerance drum for decades but now you have to go all the way to fred phelps to find the equivalent intolerance on the right. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #93 May 14, 2009 QuoteThe right doesn't spew near the amount of hate as the left. Total random aside, but I theorize that this is actually because of the Christian influence on the right wing. We can all point up very notorious cases of Christian bigotry and nastiness, but in my actual, personal experience, the very christian people I've encountered are among the nicest, friendliest and most tolerant I've known (and remember that I'm an atheist, and religious fervor often creeps me out).-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyBoyd 0 #94 May 14, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote bleached-blonde, fake-boobed, too much face paint chick How dare she be attractive!! Burn her!! Is that your idea of attractive? Yep, I think that this pic would qualify as attractive unless you hate her for her opinion or you are blind. I'm not blind, although my teammates might think so from time to time. I don't hate anyone. What I dislike is the intense amount of attention being given to this young lady's opinion simply because she is a contestant in a beauty pageant. Her opinion would be every bit as meaningless if she supported gay marriage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyBoyd 0 #95 May 14, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotebleached-blonde, fake-boobed, too much face paint chick How dare she be attractive!! Burn her!! Is that your idea of attractive? Movie - Liar, Liar (Jim Carrey) "Daddy, my teacher says people are beautiful based on what's on the inside" "That's just something ugly people say, arrrrghhhh" admit it, you laughed at that line in the movie and sure, that woman is very pretty - but I'm sure you scored a lot of points with the PC crowd crowd here by belittling her physical looks....... Yep, that's what I'm shootin' for. Scoring points with the PC crowd has always been what I'm about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,006 #96 May 14, 2009 >but now you have to go all the way to fred phelps to find the equivalent >intolerance on the right. Or Ann Coulter, or Rush Limbaugh, or Glenn Beck, or Michelle Malkin. Who can forget the heartwarming story she put on her website about a woman who had lost her son in Iraq? It was titled "Media Whore." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #97 May 14, 2009 how can you compare those guys to the main stream left? many, many on the left, icluding pundits, people i've talked to in person, and dz.commers have REPEATEDLY wished for illness, injury, and death to those on the right. within the last week wanda sykes wished for rush limbaugh to have organ failure. you can't even count the number of times that its wished that cheney would die from some heart problem. remember tony snow? he wasn't a bad guy, yet there were those on the left wishing terrible things for him before he died. anyone that gives a conservative viewpoint must not be challenged, they must be destroyed, prejean, palin, joe the plumber to name a few. what was the majority of the response from the right to ted kennedy's recent health problems? anyone reporting the news or commentary from a conservative angle must be silenced, fox news, talk radio. these are mainstream left idiologies, not just the ideologies of a few talking heads. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,006 #98 May 14, 2009 >how can you compare those guys to the main stream left? Calling a grieving widow a whore seems pretty hateful to me. >many, many on the left, icluding pundits, people i've talked to in person, >and dz.commers have REPEATEDLY wished for illness, injury, and death to those >on the right. And right wingers wish death, torture and cancer to people on the left. Neither is mainstream. >anyone that gives a conservative viewpoint must not be challenged, they >must be destroyed, prejean, palin, joe the plumber to name a few. Right. Just as Cindy Sheehan was called a whore for speaking out against the war and the Dixie Chicks were threatened with death for criticizing the President. Heck, Richard Poplawski started killing cops because he was afraid Obama would take his guns, and there has been at least one other incident like that recently. Haven't heard of many liberals killing people because they were afraid Bush would send them to war. >what was the majority of the response from the right to ted kennedy's >recent health problems? The same as the majority of the left's response to Prejean - sorry she's in such hot water, don't agree with her politics. >anyone reporting the news or commentary from a conservative angle must >be silenced, fox news . . . So you're claiming FOX News is being silenced? Dude, it's the most popular infotainment show in the US! Your perceptions are pretty far out of whack if you think people are trying to "silence" FOX. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #99 May 14, 2009 Quote>how can you compare those guys to the main stream left? Calling a grieving widow a whore seems pretty hateful to me. Which totally fails to answer the question he asked, even though you quoted it above your response.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #100 May 14, 2009 you and i can cite examples all day long. i'm not saying there isn't hatred on the right, i'm saying the the degree and breadth is far greater coming from the left. nowhere in my post do i claim that fox news is being silenced or people are trying to silence it. the point of my comment was that the left would love to see it silenced. they can't do it, but fox news is maligned at almost every opportunity. the left widely and viciously attacks fox news and tries to destroy its credibility constantly. just on this forum there is a lot of vitriol reguarding fox news. i stand by my observation that the left is more hateful. it goes beyond the talking heads and the media outlets and has sunk into the hearts and minds of the people on that side of things. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
