rushmc 23 #51 May 16, 2009 Quote Quote To be precise, Obama turned this over to the courts. Had he really believed in this position, he would have signed an executive order saying the same. Being the limp spine political animal he is (and seeking re-election) he gave up his executive power so as to seem to be “fair”. In essence, he is a wimp. He has no guts and cares only about the polls and his “popularity. He could give a shit less about the troops. And if he had chosen to instead release these photos, what would your complaint have been? Because it seems to me you'd have complained either way. Blues, Dave Dont you get it? The no guts works both ways. He wants to apease the loony left but he knows releasing the picturses is wrong> He hung himselfPure poetry"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #52 May 16, 2009 Here is the real beauty of it... Obama follows several courses of action that some people, including Obama, criticized when Bush did it. When Obama does it, those same people have nothing to say about his new policies. There will, of course, be some spin. "It's different. It part of The Change." I think Obama is a person of action. Most leaders realize that plans will be slightly modified as they are put into action. Nice to see. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingOsh 0 #53 May 16, 2009 Quote That's because we never should have left the location of the problem in favor of an optional war elsewhere. Now we're cleaning up after 43's bad decision. That may be a perfectly valid argument. It is, however, completely different than the campaign promise of bringing the troops home by summer. Quote I don't think it's fair to give Obama a hard time because he hasn't pulled us out of a near depression in the first twelfth of his first term. I didn't give him shit for not pulling us out of a depression. I said the economy is still in the shitter so rhys' claim that he has done so many wonderful things is bullshit. The unimaginable deficit is 100% Obama's. Quote How big do you think it would have been this year if McCain had won? Completely irrelevant. Now you're moving to justify Obama's actions as equal to a hypothetical republican win. Hope&change -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #54 May 16, 2009 Quote Ah, yes, the "it's all Bushes fault" surfaces again. How long can the Obama administration continue to blame Bush for everything? I'm not about to call you a Bush fan, but it's impressive to see how quickly people seem to want to transfer responsibility for 8 years worth of bad decisions to Obama. Bush hit the iceberg and handed the wheel to Obama. I'm willing to give Obama more than four months to work this out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #55 May 16, 2009 QuoteQuote Ah, yes, the "it's all Bushes fault" surfaces again. How long can the Obama administration continue to blame Bush for everything? I'm not about to call you a Bush fan, but it's impressive to see how quickly people seem to want to transfer responsibility for 8 years worth of bad decisions to Obama. Bush hit the iceberg and handed the wheel to Obama. I'm willing to give Obama more than four months to work this out. Not me, not if he continues to add the debt at the same rate. What you fail to see is all this spending is not about getting us out depressiion. It is about adding to governement control and power. The same thing you complained Bush was doing. So, he was going to save jobs. Unemployment WOULD go to 10% if we did not pass the stimulas. What is it now? The car dealers would go under if we did not spend the money. How many have been saved He did not want to run a car company. He is firing execs, cancelling franchizes and telling them what thier advertising budget can be. He was not going to use military tribunals. Guess that is not true either. Gonna get combat troops out of Iraq. Know where that one is headed? Going to close GITMO. Think that is going to happen? Going to put the bills on the internet for transparency. Hows that one going? No lobbiests in my adin. Care to comment? How many tax cheats are in his admin? How many did he want? Going to release the pictures. Opps, maybe not now. And these are just the ones I can remember off the top of my head. And to think, He did all of this in how many months?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #56 May 16, 2009 Quote bt you don't sell too many guns that way though do you! Obama has already increased the sales of firearms and ammunition in the US to the point that it's difficult for some small police departments to get ammo for training. Firearms orders are taking 3-6 months for rifles, and I've seen handguns listed as "sold out". That's economic stimulus.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mpohl 1 #57 May 16, 2009 This, and the more recent development of keeping military tribunals going: I JUST FEEL NAUSEATED! Quotethe president has decided no to release more photos of detainee abuse and i must commend that. i think he listened to his generals and made the right decision for the right reasons and i must give credit when credit is due, so thank you, mr. president. "Obama made a brief statement on his decision late Wednesday afternoon. He said he'd concluded that the photos wouldn't add useful knowledge about detainee abuse but would "further inflame anti-American opinion and . . . put our troops in greater danger." http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/68103.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #58 May 17, 2009 Quote This, and the more recent development of keeping military tribunals going: I JUST FEEL NAUSEATED! Quote the president has decided no to release more photos of detainee abuse and i must commend that. i think he listened to his generals and made the right decision for the right reasons and i must give credit when credit is due, so thank you, mr. president. "Obama made a brief statement on his decision late Wednesday afternoon. He said he'd concluded that the photos wouldn't add useful knowledge about detainee abuse but would "further inflame anti-American opinion and . . . put our troops in greater danger." http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/68103.html I was going to reply in a mocking way. But, as bad as I feel Obama is for this country, he is at least smart enough to know where to draw the line in cases like these. Learn about it. You will respect him for it. (I cant believe I just posted this)"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mpohl 1 #59 May 17, 2009 I am a dual US/ EU citizen. I have an option that most of you don't have, and I ready myself to exercise it. Thirty years ago, the US had a strong pull for me as a youngster (18 yrs of age): Bob Dylan, Pete Seeger, Joan Baez. Liberal, forward thinking, melting pot, all men being created equal... I just can't accept any longer the fringe 20% Rush Limbaugh dickheads which seem to be running the country (w/ Obama no less); complete disregard for our fellow human beings in the name of profit; lack of adequate health care for 20% of the population, etc. etc... As a PhD/MBA in the pharmaceutical arena, I have a choice. And so have my Mexican friends. My fellow Americans will be poorer for it. Quote Quote This, and the more recent development of keeping military tribunals going: I JUST FEEL NAUSEATED! Quote the president has decided no to release more photos of detainee abuse and i must commend that. i think he listened to his generals and made the right decision for the right reasons and i must give credit when credit is due, so thank you, mr. president. "Obama made a brief statement on his decision late Wednesday afternoon. He said he'd concluded that the photos wouldn't add useful knowledge about detainee abuse but would "further inflame anti-American opinion and . . . put our troops in greater danger." http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/68103.html I was going to reply in a mocking way. But, as bad as I feel Obama is for this country, he is at least smart enough to know where to draw the line in cases like these. Learn about it. You will respect him for it. (I cant believe I just posted this) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #60 May 17, 2009 Quote I am a dual US/ EU citizen. I have an option that most of you don't have, and I ready myself to exercise it. Thirty years ago, the US had a strong pull for me as a youngster (18 yrs of age): Bob Dylan, Pete Seeger, Joan Baez. Liberal, forward thinking, melting pot, all men being created equal... I just can't accept any longer the fringe 20% Rush Limbaugh dickheads which seem to be running the country (w/ Obama no less); complete disregard for our fellow human beings in the name of profit; lack of adequate health care for 20% of the population, etc. etc... As a PhD/MBA in the pharmaceutical arena, I have a choice. And so have my Mexican friends. My fellow Americans will be poorer for it. Quote Quote This, and the more recent development of keeping military tribunals going: I JUST FEEL NAUSEATED! Quote the president has decided no to release more photos of detainee abuse and i must commend that. i think he listened to his generals and made the right decision for the right reasons and i must give credit when credit is due, so thank you, mr. president. "Obama made a brief statement on his decision late Wednesday afternoon. He said he'd concluded that the photos wouldn't add useful knowledge about detainee abuse but would "further inflame anti-American opinion and . . . put our troops in greater danger." http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/68103.html I was going to reply in a mocking way. But, as bad as I feel Obama is for this country, he is at least smart enough to know where to draw the line in cases like these. Learn about it. You will respect him for it. (I cant believe I just posted this) Sorry, I really have no idea what your point is....."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #61 May 17, 2009 QuoteI am a dual US/ EU citizen. I have an option that most of you don't have, and I ready myself to exercise it. c-ya +respect for acting on your convictionsMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #62 May 17, 2009 QuoteQuoteI am a dual US/ EU citizen. I have an option that most of you don't have, and I ready myself to exercise it. c-ya +respect for acting on your convictions Ok, so would a good reply have been dont let the door hit you on the way out?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mpohl 1 #63 May 17, 2009 C-Ya! Are u guys in TX stayin' w/ the Union or become Mexican as suggested by this weirdo Russian professor? QuoteQuoteI am a dual US/ EU citizen. I have an option that most of you don't have, and I ready myself to exercise it. c-ya +respect for acting on your convictions Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #64 May 17, 2009 QuoteThis, and the more recent development of keeping military tribunals going: I JUST FEEL NAUSEATED! why the nausea? he has to do something with these guys and he feels this is the best thing to do. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #65 May 17, 2009 Quote I just can't accept any longer the fringe 20% Rush Limbaugh dickheads which seem to be running the country (w/ Obama no less); complete disregard for our fellow human beings in the name of profit; lack of adequate health care for 20% of the population, etc. etc... the thing is, there are plenty countries that are better aligned with your ideology, but there's nothing else like the u.s. if its not your cup of tea here, i'm sure there are plenty of other places that would welcome an educated person such as yourself. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #66 May 17, 2009 QuoteThis, and the more recent development of keeping military tribunals going: I JUST FEEL NAUSEATED! Where's the "Change We Can Believe In"? As usual, it's business as usual in DC.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgw 8 #67 May 17, 2009 QuoteQuote instead, why don't you try defending obama? ...., and regaining the respect of the rest of the world for the United states of america. Amen. From an international perspective, Obama is huge and welcome relief. When Bush got re-elected, nobody I have ever met in the UK/Ireland could understand it. Why? I, and everybody I have met in the UK/Ireland, thinks Obama is amazing. Of course, this is set against the backdrop of dubya... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #68 May 18, 2009 Political cartoonists are starting to recognize the Obama policies. (How long before SNL picks this up and the pendulum swings the other direction? ) A policy is either good or bad, regardless of the party. Somehow, the DEMs aren't getting upset about Obama implementing the REP programs. This should be interestingly. One party is happy that their programs are being used. The other party can't complain because it is their candidate who is using them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #69 May 18, 2009 QuoteSomehow, the DEMs aren't getting upset about Obama implementing the REP programs. Nonsense, obviously they must be Clinton (all hail)policies that Bush (boooo, hissss) clearly messed up and now Obama (all hail) is doing them in a god-like fashion. It's about time ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #70 May 19, 2009 QuoteC-Ya! Are u guys in TX stayin' w/ the Union or become Mexican as suggested by this weirdo Russian professor? Not familiar with the weirdo ruski prof you're speaking about. And mexican or american, we're Texan!! We're already asserted our states rights under the 10th amendment and are working on passing a law stating that guns made in TX, for sale in TX, don't fall under federal law. I think the code name for it is the big middle finger. If the feds want to put a bill in committee for study that would require a license to own a handgun, well we'll just have to see if those laws apply to our guns. I wouldn't support a bid for succession if someone floated it. I mean yeah, we aren't taking bailouts, we have a fairly strong economy, we don't really NEED the feds, we have the largest military base and lots of US Govt owned war machines... but I'd rather stick around and fix what goes wrong than punch out just because of a little wingtip stall.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #71 May 20, 2009 QuoteWhere's the "Change We Can Believe In"? I really feel that if McCain won, we wouldn't be talking about torture at all. It wouldn't have come up. Instead, we would be focusing on how to invade North Korea. Change is in finally admitting that we've been doing some things wrong. I commend Obama - to me, this is an easy choice, because there is no value in releasing photos, other than to satisfy the voyeuristic needs of the public (which has no value).Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites