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Really? Have you ever timed yourself or anyone else doing this?
I agree. You should always avoid situations that could turn bad.Dude, if I'm ever involved in an actual gun fight (involving two or more parties, armed with firearms, shooting at each other) when I've got my kids with me, then I've made a miscalculation of a massive order.
In a situation where another person is shooting at me with a firearm, my top priority is to get the hell out of that situation. I've got no delusions about the survivability of a real firefight, and I'd personally like to live.
Me too!
***My personal defense firearm is almost exclusively for defense from unarmed (or not armed with firearms) individuals. If the other guy has a gun, the rules are very different, and basically involve me (and mine) trying to get out of harms way until help arrives.***
My personal defense weapon is EXCLUSIVELY for defense from ARMED ATTACKERS. Ever heard of "confront force with force"?
There are many ways to practice but advanced training enhances SURVIVAL. Training needs to be realistic and stressful. You must be able to draw your weapon, fire and hit your target in under 2 seconds.
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I will jump in here, but with the disclaimor that I'm not sure what to say. I'm more for freedom to own guns than not, but reading this stuff is shaking my beliefs. You guys sound like you live in Beruit or something. The idea of people walking around their house with a loaded gun in a holster is insane. I see a lot more reports of accidental shootings and murders than self defense, and by a large margin. Even intentional incidents often don't need to be solved by gunfire. Some guy innocently walks into a person's yard and gets blown away, for example.
I'm still not in favor of taking away your toys, but I've gotta tell ya I'm starting to wonder.
And that comment about slapping the parents was priceless. Their toddler kid just shot her baby brother dead and they need to be slapped.
I bet they would rather be shot themselves instead.
One other comment real quick. Some claim we need them to fight the government. Fat chance. You won't last 5 minutes against the black helicopters if it ever comes to that.
Sorry for the rant. Carry on.
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refer to my earlier post regarding training. If racking the slide is part of the weapon presentation, and it's practiced it would only add half a second or so.
Really? Have you ever timed yourself or anyone else doing this?
Yes in fact I have. My first CHL instructor carried with an empty chamber as an undercover cop. He trained to chamber a round as part of his draw. We timed him from draw buzzer to first shot and it added 0.2sec to his time. His point when he explained to us how he used to carry was it's more dependent on your training.--
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Rob
I will jump in here, but with the disclaimor that I'm not sure what to say. I'm more for freedom to own guns than not, but reading this stuff is shaking my beliefs. You guys sound like you live in Beruit or something. The idea of people walking around their house with a loaded gun in a holster is insane.
It's not something I do either, but I'm 200lbs. Your profile suggests you're not a 110lb woman either.
Yet you live near New Orleans, so you must have some idea why others might want to do so.
I will jump in here, but with the disclaimor that I'm not sure what to say. I'm more for freedom to own guns than not, but reading this stuff is shaking my beliefs. You guys sound like you live in Beruit or something. The idea of people walking around their house with a loaded gun in a holster is insane. I see a lot more reports of accidental shootings and murders than self defense, and by a large margin.
Media coverage is not representative of what's happening, presumably because defensive gun use usually stops at brandishing which isn't exciting enough for the news. Only exciting and uncommon events get covered.
Each year under 700 fatal accidents (The National Center for Health Statistics reported 649 in 2007) occur, about 10,000 murders with guns (The FBI's Uniform Crime Report lists 10,086 for 2007), over 100,000 defenses are reported to authorities (National Crime Victimization Surveys), and 2,000,000 - 2,500,000 defensive uses are suggested by Kleck's random-digit-dialed telephone survey with callback confirmation.
Even intentional incidents often don't need to be solved by gunfire.
It usually stops with "I have a gun"
One other comment real quick. Some claim we need them to fight the government. Fat chance. You won't last 5 minutes against the black helicopters if it ever comes to that.
Sorry for the rant. Carry on.
Resistance movements have the advantage of not being easily identified as hostiles. and can operate for decades like the IRA which eventually bombed their way to the negotiating table.
I would love to smack parents like that over the head. I have a 4 year old, and I don't even leave markers or scissors where he can reach them, let alone a loaded gun! That is a recipe for disaster. I don't think that anything loaded should be kept lying around. Guns should also be kept out of a childs reach. That doesn't mean they need to be locked up, or have locks on them though.
All the guns we have are in kept up high where he can't reach them. Are never left loaded, and are in a room he is not allowed to be in unless we are there with him. We baby gate it off, just to keep him from going in there, even though it really isn't needed for his age.
You have to be a responsible parent, especially if you want to keep guns in your home. You also have to be prepared to teach your children to handle them safely, so they understand that they aren't toys to be played with.
I am actually more scared of children from other families coming to my home and getting into things they are not supposed to, because I know my son won't. I also tell any parent that brings their child to my home (especially for the first time), that hey, there are guns in that room, make sure your kids don't go in there. Then we all know, and we all can watch.
Children are too precious to risk because someone wants to be irresponsible about gun safety. I think if you want to own a gun, you should be responsible about it. It's unfortunate that people can't be adults, and take that responsiblity into consideration.
But, it's those people that do take it seriously, and do try to prevent injuries to innocent people, that get shafted by these laws that are put into place, that don't solve the problem. That is why we get so mad. Why should law abiding people be punished? Especially when you know that some criminal, or teen gang member is gonna be hiding a loaded gun where some little kid can find it, and they don't listen to the laws anyway.
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