rushmc 23 #51 June 13, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuote>Neither did the recession in 01 . . . (psst - dude - neither Clinton nor Obama was president in 2001) Wow...no shit? Perhaps you recall the 'tech bubble'? You know, that thing that popped in 00 and started the recession that y'all blamed on Bush in 01? According to NBER the recession started in March 2001. Bush took over in Jan 2001. Ok, for the sake of this thread I will give you we are in a Bush recession. What was the dallar valued at when Obama took over? What is it now?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryzflies 0 #52 June 14, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>Neither did the recession in 01 . . . (psst - dude - neither Clinton nor Obama was president in 2001) Wow...no shit? Perhaps you recall the 'tech bubble'? You know, that thing that popped in 00 and started the recession that y'all blamed on Bush in 01? According to NBER the recession started in March 2001. Bush took over in Jan 2001. Ok, for the sake of this thread I will give you we are in a Bush recession. What was the dallar valued at when Obama took over? What is it now? What was it valued at when Bush took over?If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryzflies 0 #53 June 14, 2009 QuoteYou guys really have to yield the point. Though Bush may have declared his intent to lower taxes by March of 2001, I think it would be hard to attribute the recession to news of this. The boom was over. It makes a hell of a lot of sense to just admit that Bush didn't cause that one, and focus instead on all the responsibilities he has with this one (primarily deficit spending which makes responding to this recession much more painful). He had a nearly balance budget back then to work with...he did not leave the same to Obama. Which party was denying "The R word" for clearly partisan electoral reasons well into the fall of 2008, when early action could have lessened the impact?If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #54 June 14, 2009 Which party has used economic crisis as a justification to rush through years worth of pork filled pet spending projects with minimal review?-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #55 June 14, 2009 QuoteQuoteYou guys really have to yield the point. Though Bush may have declared his intent to lower taxes by March of 2001, I think it would be hard to attribute the recession to news of this. The boom was over. It makes a hell of a lot of sense to just admit that Bush didn't cause that one, and focus instead on all the responsibilities he has with this one (primarily deficit spending which makes responding to this recession much more painful). He had a nearly balance budget back then to work with...he did not leave the same to Obama. Which party was denying "The R word" for clearly partisan electoral reasons well into the fall of 2008, when early action could have lessened the impact? Who was in charge of Congress (hence spending) in 2008, again?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penniless 0 #56 June 14, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>Neither did the recession in 01 . . . (psst - dude - neither Clinton nor Obama was president in 2001) Wow...no shit? Perhaps you recall the 'tech bubble'? You know, that thing that popped in 00 and started the recession that y'all blamed on Bush in 01? According to NBER the recession started in March 2001. Bush took over in Jan 2001. Ok, for the sake of this thread I will give you we are in a Bush recession. What was the dallar valued at when Obama took over? What is it now? It has increased 10% in value against the Japanese Yen, and has not changed against the Chinese Yuan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites penniless 0 #57 June 14, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteYou guys really have to yield the point. Though Bush may have declared his intent to lower taxes by March of 2001, I think it would be hard to attribute the recession to news of this. The boom was over. It makes a hell of a lot of sense to just admit that Bush didn't cause that one, and focus instead on all the responsibilities he has with this one (primarily deficit spending which makes responding to this recession much more painful). He had a nearly balance budget back then to work with...he did not leave the same to Obama. Which party was denying "The R word" for clearly partisan electoral reasons well into the fall of 2008, when early action could have lessened the impact? Who was in charge of Congress (hence spending) in 2008, again? The recession started in Dec 2007, again. You ARE having a problem with dates. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #58 June 14, 2009 Quote Ok, for the sake of this thread I will give you we are in a Bush recession. What was the dallar valued at when Obama took over? What is it now? Where do you think you're going with that point? Using the Euro, the value today is still higher than it was for most of last year. The surge in the dollar started in Oct/November, right as he was being elected. It of course is sliding with this deficit. Go back to the longer running whose fault is it threads for that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #59 June 14, 2009 Quote It has increased 10% in value against the Japanese Yen, and has not changed against the Chinese Yuan. The Chinese do act to keep it that way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #60 June 14, 2009 QuoteYou ARE having a problem with dates. Yeah, about that... HOW many times have you had to revise that "second coming", now? Might want to get that beam out of your own eye before you worry about the mote in mine, eh?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Beachbum 0 #61 June 14, 2009 QuoteQuote I think it's much more important to get people working together to FIX the problems than to worry about the particular "who" who caused them. Except the fundamental flaw is that the majority of people from both sides may disagree about details, but they both think they government is the solution. They're unable to see any possible solution that doesn't somehow serve themselves. They are the problem. I couldn't agree more! Somewhere along the line, those "serving" this country in government changed it from a temporary position of servitude into a career ... which resulted in elected officials becoming more worried about what would get them reelected than about what is best for their constituents and the long term health of the country and it's economy. Prime example is what has been taking place now - try to fix this mess by spending and spending, don't worry about the future generations who will have to PAY for it all. The "me, now" generation in office ... LOL!!!As long as you are happy with yourself ... who cares what the rest of the world thinks? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #62 June 14, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>Neither did the recession in 01 . . . (psst - dude - neither Clinton nor Obama was president in 2001) Wow...no shit? Perhaps you recall the 'tech bubble'? You know, that thing that popped in 00 and started the recession that y'all blamed on Bush in 01? According to NBER the recession started in March 2001. Bush took over in Jan 2001. Ok, for the sake of this thread I will give you we are in a Bush recession. What was the dallar valued at when Obama took over? What is it now? What was it valued at when Bush took over? Exactly! Care to answer the question?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jerryzflies 0 #63 June 14, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote >Neither did the recession in 01 . . . (psst - dude - neither Clinton nor Obama was president in 2001) Wow...no shit? Perhaps you recall the 'tech bubble'? You know, that thing that popped in 00 and started the recession that y'all blamed on Bush in 01? According to NBER the recession started in March 2001. Bush took over in Jan 2001. Ok, for the sake of this thread I will give you we are in a Bush recession. What was the dallar valued at when Obama took over? What is it now? What was it valued at when Bush took over? Exactly! Care to answer the question? Asked and answered alreadyIf you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #64 June 14, 2009 Thats two. Which currency (when compared to the dollar) affects the cost of oil and gas in this country?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jerryzflies 0 #65 June 15, 2009 Quote Thats two. Which currency (when compared to the dollar) affects the cost of oil and gas in this country? The price of oil on international markets is denominated in $US, and the dollar has maintained parity with thatIf you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 3 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. 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penniless 0 #57 June 14, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteYou guys really have to yield the point. Though Bush may have declared his intent to lower taxes by March of 2001, I think it would be hard to attribute the recession to news of this. The boom was over. It makes a hell of a lot of sense to just admit that Bush didn't cause that one, and focus instead on all the responsibilities he has with this one (primarily deficit spending which makes responding to this recession much more painful). He had a nearly balance budget back then to work with...he did not leave the same to Obama. Which party was denying "The R word" for clearly partisan electoral reasons well into the fall of 2008, when early action could have lessened the impact? Who was in charge of Congress (hence spending) in 2008, again? The recession started in Dec 2007, again. You ARE having a problem with dates. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #58 June 14, 2009 Quote Ok, for the sake of this thread I will give you we are in a Bush recession. What was the dallar valued at when Obama took over? What is it now? Where do you think you're going with that point? Using the Euro, the value today is still higher than it was for most of last year. The surge in the dollar started in Oct/November, right as he was being elected. It of course is sliding with this deficit. Go back to the longer running whose fault is it threads for that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #59 June 14, 2009 Quote It has increased 10% in value against the Japanese Yen, and has not changed against the Chinese Yuan. The Chinese do act to keep it that way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #60 June 14, 2009 QuoteYou ARE having a problem with dates. Yeah, about that... HOW many times have you had to revise that "second coming", now? Might want to get that beam out of your own eye before you worry about the mote in mine, eh?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beachbum 0 #61 June 14, 2009 QuoteQuote I think it's much more important to get people working together to FIX the problems than to worry about the particular "who" who caused them. Except the fundamental flaw is that the majority of people from both sides may disagree about details, but they both think they government is the solution. They're unable to see any possible solution that doesn't somehow serve themselves. They are the problem. I couldn't agree more! Somewhere along the line, those "serving" this country in government changed it from a temporary position of servitude into a career ... which resulted in elected officials becoming more worried about what would get them reelected than about what is best for their constituents and the long term health of the country and it's economy. Prime example is what has been taking place now - try to fix this mess by spending and spending, don't worry about the future generations who will have to PAY for it all. The "me, now" generation in office ... LOL!!!As long as you are happy with yourself ... who cares what the rest of the world thinks? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #62 June 14, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>Neither did the recession in 01 . . . (psst - dude - neither Clinton nor Obama was president in 2001) Wow...no shit? Perhaps you recall the 'tech bubble'? You know, that thing that popped in 00 and started the recession that y'all blamed on Bush in 01? According to NBER the recession started in March 2001. Bush took over in Jan 2001. Ok, for the sake of this thread I will give you we are in a Bush recession. What was the dallar valued at when Obama took over? What is it now? What was it valued at when Bush took over? Exactly! Care to answer the question?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryzflies 0 #63 June 14, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote >Neither did the recession in 01 . . . (psst - dude - neither Clinton nor Obama was president in 2001) Wow...no shit? Perhaps you recall the 'tech bubble'? You know, that thing that popped in 00 and started the recession that y'all blamed on Bush in 01? According to NBER the recession started in March 2001. Bush took over in Jan 2001. Ok, for the sake of this thread I will give you we are in a Bush recession. What was the dallar valued at when Obama took over? What is it now? What was it valued at when Bush took over? Exactly! Care to answer the question? Asked and answered alreadyIf you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #64 June 14, 2009 Thats two. Which currency (when compared to the dollar) affects the cost of oil and gas in this country?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryzflies 0 #65 June 15, 2009 Quote Thats two. Which currency (when compared to the dollar) affects the cost of oil and gas in this country? The price of oil on international markets is denominated in $US, and the dollar has maintained parity with thatIf you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
