ChangoLanzao 0 #151 November 24, 2009 Quote Quote Quote >Once again Glenn Beck is an entertainer not all that different than >Stewart or Colbert, except that the message is different. Agreed. People who listen to Beck (or Colbert) for factual information are going to be quite misinformed most of the time. They don't make more money by telling the truth, they make money by entertaining people. If Colbert can poke fun at Limbaugh, or if Beck can cry on demand to "prove" how patriotic he is - well, that _does_ make them money. On the other hand, it is true that intelligent satire plays an important POSITIVE role in public discourse. What Glenn Beck does is neither intelligent nor positive. He is a buffoon who substitutes dangerous propaganda in the place of facts in a completely illogical and disingenuous manner. Ok, post where he is wrong!! Dont generalize but be specific please. He tells anybody he will give them an hour to come on his show (or email him and he will read it) and show him to be wrong. I wont hold my breath. I also am positive you get your opinions about him from some pro government left wing web site and you have listened a little, if any to him. So, we have here another example of some one have an opinion given to them. The key words here are "illogical" and "disingenuous" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #152 November 24, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote >Once again Glenn Beck is an entertainer not all that different than >Stewart or Colbert, except that the message is different. Agreed. People who listen to Beck (or Colbert) for factual information are going to be quite misinformed most of the time. They don't make more money by telling the truth, they make money by entertaining people. If Colbert can poke fun at Limbaugh, or if Beck can cry on demand to "prove" how patriotic he is - well, that _does_ make them money. On the other hand, it is true that intelligent satire plays an important POSITIVE role in public discourse. What Glenn Beck does is neither intelligent nor positive. He is a buffoon who substitutes dangerous propaganda in the place of facts in a completely illogical and disingenuous manner. Ok, post where he is wrong!! Dont generalize but be specific please. He tells anybody he will give them an hour to come on his show (or email him and he will read it) and show him to be wrong. I wont hold my breath. I also am positive you get your opinions about him from some pro government left wing web site and you have listened a little, if any to him. So, we have here another example of some one have an opinion given to them. The key words here are "illogical" and "disingenuous" Still waiting.........."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #153 November 24, 2009 Quote The key words here are "illogical" and "disingenuous" To bad you think that an op/ed show is 'fact'. That doesn't mean everyone else does, though - you know that, right?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChangoLanzao 0 #154 November 25, 2009 Quote Quote The key words here are "illogical" and "disingenuous" To bad you think that an op/ed show is 'fact'. That doesn't mean everyone else does, though - you know that, right? You lost me here. I guess that was the point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #155 November 25, 2009 QuoteAs far as I can tell, your panties are all bunched up because I said,"I've watched Beck and listened for myself to what he says. EVERYTHING Quade posted is true." No, I just expect people to stand by the comments they make. You said, "I've watched Beck and listened for myself to what he says. EVERYTHING Quade posted is true", you then said, "The riot is in the process of being incited", You compared him to a guy yelling fire in a crowded theater... I and others have asked you SEVERAL times to back up your statements.... You have failed to do that.... So yes, you are lying. QuoteThen you called me a liar Then back up your statements if you can. So far you are just making up things and yes, that is lying."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #156 November 25, 2009 Quote Beck is at the very least trying to fool people into what he is saying is news. You said he was inciting riots.... Just admit you can't prove it and were either: A: Lying. B: Exaggerating wildly. Or provide some evidence that supports your claim. Not difficult Quade."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChangoLanzao 0 #157 November 25, 2009 QuoteQuoteAs far as I can tell, your panties are all bunched up because I said,"I've watched Beck and listened for myself to what he says. EVERYTHING Quade posted is true." No, I just expect people to stand by the comments they make. You said, "I've watched Beck and listened for myself to what he says. EVERYTHING Quade posted is true", you then said, "The riot is in the process of being incited", You compared him to a guy yelling fire in a crowded theater... I and others have asked you SEVERAL times to back up your statements.... You have failed to do that.... So yes, you are lying. QuoteThen you called me a liar Then back up your statements if you can. So far you are just making up things and yes, that is lying. You make no sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #158 November 25, 2009 Quote Quote Beck is at the very least trying to fool people into what he is saying is news. You said he was inciting riots.... Just admit you can't prove it and were either: A: Lying. B: Exaggerating wildly. Or provide some evidence that supports your claim. Not difficult Quade. This would make the 4th or 5th time he has been asked to do this"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #159 November 25, 2009 QuoteYou make no sense. Simple... you made statements.. Now back them up or admit you are a liar. Not that hard to grasp."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChangoLanzao 0 #160 November 25, 2009 Quote Quote You make no sense. Simple... you made statements.. Now back them up or admit you are a liar. Not that hard to grasp. You sound just like Glenn Beck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #161 November 25, 2009 Quote Quote Quote You make no sense. Simple... you made statements.. Now back them up or admit you are a liar. Not that hard to grasp. You sound just like Glenn Beck! You just lost"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChangoLanzao 0 #162 November 25, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote You make no sense. Simple... you made statements.. Now back them up or admit you are a liar. Not that hard to grasp. You sound just like Glenn Beck! You just lost Sure, whatever.Congratulations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #163 November 25, 2009 Quote You sound just like Glenn Beck! And you sound just like a liar......"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #164 November 25, 2009 Quote Quote You sound just like Glenn Beck! And you sound just like a liar...... Game, set, match"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmyfitz 0 #165 November 25, 2009 QuoteQuoteWhen I first heard Glenn Beck, I thought he was a bit of a loony red neck hick. But since then, I have listened to him and found him to be rather funny. I do not agree with everything he says, but he does bring up many good points. Glenn Beck is an entertainer. How is Glenn Beck any different than some of the other political entertainers like John Stewart and Stephen Colbert? Stewart and Colbert can be very funny, but they are also extremely partisan with their political messages. Outside of their partisanship, there is little difference between Glenn Beck, John Stewart and Stephen Colbert. They say things to draw attention and to primarily boost their ratings. The difference is that Glenn Beck is a stupid, propagandist clown, He is comparable to Maddow and Olberman. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmyfitz 0 #166 November 25, 2009 Quote Quote Bug off. Classy. I believe some use that term in place of the term fuck off. I'm sure Quade didn't mean it like that though. Moderators would never make personal attacks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmyfitz 0 #167 November 25, 2009 Quote Quote You sound just like Glenn Beck! And you sound just like a liar...... I don't think I have ever seen anyone with so many tangents and misdirections when caught lying as Chango. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #168 December 4, 2009 http://www.theonion.com/content/video/victim_in_fatal_car_accident this is funny just funny people thats all.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #169 December 7, 2009 A local article on Glenn Beck Never knew the tie between Beck, Bill Clinton, and Mitt Romney. Interesting article regardless. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #170 December 7, 2009 QuoteA local article on Glenn Beck Never knew the tie between Beck, Bill Clinton, and Mitt Romney. Interesting article regardless. Ok, I know that the founding and ideas behind LSD sound incredibly stupid to anyone outside the church and I also realize the Church leaders are the fucking assholes that sponsored Prop 8 in California. That said, there are plenty of other good reasons to hate Beck and think h'e s a complete asswipe without dragging religion into it; like . . . the stuff he says and does.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #171 December 7, 2009 I agree 110%, but what I liked in the article was the inference that Beck joined the Mormons not for faith, but for self-promotional value. He's about money. Nothing more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #172 December 7, 2009 QuoteI agree 110%, but what I liked in the article was the inference that Beck joined the Mormons not for faith, but for self-promotional value. He's about money. Nothing more. I think if you look around at a batch of religious leaders (particularly the televangelists types) you'll find that's really what it's all about for them as well.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
