Baptist Preacher Prays for Obama's Death

[RonD1120 62]

Quote

Please, I need your help.

I have read your reply to me multiple times and I am having a hard time figuring out what you are trying to say. ( I think you and I agree)

Please?

We do agree. I think the Baptist preacher was way out of line and will suffer consequences for his transgression.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[RonD1120 62]

Quote

Why should a nonbeliever take your opinion as any more valid than that of the Baptist Preacher of Death? He IS a spokesman for Christianity, as was the pope who authorized the Inquisition.

A nonbeliever does not have to take my opinion. I was merely stating that the Baptist preacher is a poor spokesman and is not following the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Being one of the founders of the Christian Skydivers Association, I feel a necessity to interject my opinion when someone who claims to know Jesus Christ is making a fool of himself. These people make others confuse the message with the messenger.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[Andy9o8 2]

Quote

Quote

Why should a nonbeliever take your opinion as any more valid than that of the Baptist Preacher of Death? He IS a spokesman for Christianity, as was the pope who authorized the Inquisition.

A nonbeliever does not have to take my opinion. I was merely stating that the Baptist preacher is a poor spokesman and is not following the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Being one of the founders of the Christian Skydivers Association, I feel a necessity to interject my opinion when someone who claims to know Jesus Christ is making a fool of himself. These people make others confuse the message with the messenger.

[translating...]
So basically he's committing malpractice. OK, gotcha.

[RonD1120 62]

Quote

Quote

Every Christian grounded in Scripture recognizes the folly of this preacher's foolishness.

EXCEPT for that 'Christian preacher' who is also apparently grounded in Scripture.....and probably some or many of his followers.

Even preachers get people to hate other people for their own 'valid reasons' http://www.godhatesfags.com/

I have no time for it.

And you are right - you should be apologizing for your religion. It discredits the entire Christian philosophy - as it should.

Now go away and keep your friggin' religion out of my society - at the very least, out of my government, my schools, my military......

One does not have to be grounded in Scripture to start a church and become a preacher. I do not believe this Baptist preacher to be grounded as evidenced by his foolish statements, much the same as the "God hates fags" preacher. Another example is the supposedly Christian basis for white supremacy and the Holocaust. The Scriptures say, that we will be known by our love and by our fruit. If someone is not sharing the love of God and doing something good with it I'd stay away from them. As you say you are and rightfully so. As I stated in another post above, don't confuse the message with the messenger.

For the record, I am not a "religious" person in the sense that you mean it. I have a spiritual relationship with Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour and I follow the guidance of the Holy Spirit to the best of my ability. Sometimes, I really screw up.

Religion is ritualized behavior and in that sense I would say you are a religious skydiver. Religion does not lead to eternal peace.

The Christian Skydivers Association has been around since April 1987. It is likely to endure long after you and I are long gone.

Aren't you a Canadian? I think Christ has been removed from your government, schools and military. Be assured however, covert Christians exist and function everywhere. Although tenuous, this is still the United States of America and not Mexamaricana.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[RonD1120 62]

Quote

"The shame is that all those who do not know Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour"........

HA HA HA . he aint my saviour dude. i dont need one because i am not in fear of burning in the fires of hell for all time just because i dont accept your silly and very damaging invisible friend. The god of the desert is a horrible , vengeful, angry, nasty prick who is obviously the product of the minds of the bronze age people who lived in this desert at that time. Its not that we are made in HIS image, Its that HE is made in our image ( paranoid, frightened of change, quick to stone to death or crucify) These Baptist idiots are just as bad as the Islamist holy warriors. A real stain on humanity.

I do however support free speech and he is welcome to say these things. all he is doing is making all you God botherers look even more insane than usual.

Jesus Saves!

Your post naturally caught my attention. As an optometrist, how do you remove the scales from one's eyes as happened to Paul, see Acts 9:18.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[Belgian_Draft 0]

Quote

Christians are fucking nutty.

They are nutty to about the same extent as Muslims, Jews, or any other major religion.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

[dmkellett 0]

Fish Scales are small and sharp objects. We call these FB's ( Foreign Bodies). FB's are first assessed to determine the depth of penetration ( Catholic orphanage pun here) and then usually removed by the use of a topical anaesthetic such as lignocaine and tweezers. The cornea then heals rapidly over 24-48 hours. I reckon a fish scale would be a nasty one though, and require antibiotic and possible steroid treatment also. I have never seen a fish scale in a eyeball.

I doubt the holy book is referring to an actual event anyway, as most events portrayed in it are likely to simply be stories told over many years and eventually written down.

Dude if it aint on camera it didnt happen.

if I write a story book today will it be interpreted by idiots in 2 thousand years as gospel? and if not WHY NOT ? I think I am just as important as Jesus. We are / were both SIMPLY HUMANS. Nothing more dude. He aint coming back either.

[RonD1120 62]

Quote

Fish Scales are small and sharp objects. We call these FB's ( Foreign Bodies). FB's are first assessed to determine the depth of penetration ( Catholic orphanage pun here) and then usually removed by the use of a topical anaesthetic such as lignocaine and tweezers. The cornea then heals rapidly over 24-48 hours. I reckon a fish scale would be a nasty one though, and require antibiotic and possible steroid treatment also. I have never seen a fish scale in a eyeball.

I doubt the holy book is referring to an actual event anyway, as most events portrayed in it are likely to simply be stories told over many years and eventually written down.

Dude if it aint on camera it didnt happen.

I see you did not investigate the Scriptural reference but responded from emotion and intellect.

First, you incorrectly assumed that the scales were like fish scales. Secondly, you assumed that the reference is not verifiable because it was only recorded after many years of verbal declaration.

The Bible is not a book but a collection of sixty-six books written by approximately forty authors, Holy Spirit inspired, over a period of approximately one thousand five hundred years and is used to support itself. That is a unique collection.

The Book of Acts was recorded by a physician named Luke, an original disciple, and follows his gospel. The authenticity of his work is not disputed.

You are obviously a very intelligent person. You know many facts and details within your sphere of consciousness. What I am discussing exists outside your sphere of consciousness. It will not make any sense what so ever until you are willing to allow your shell of ignorance to be broken. Until then you will see through the glass darkly.

There is one argument that cannot be defended against, that is, contempt prior to investigation.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[Belgian_Draft 0]

Quote

The Bible is not a book but a collection of sixty-six books written by approximately forty authors, Holy Spirit inspired, over a period of approximately one thousand five hundred years and is used to support itself. That is a unique collection.

The collection may be unique but the stories contained are, for the most part, not. Have you ever read "The Hero With a Thousand Faces"?

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

[RonD1120 62]

Quote

Quote

The Bible is not a book but a collection of sixty-six books written by approximately forty authors, Holy Spirit inspired, over a period of approximately one thousand five hundred years and is used to support itself. That is a unique collection.

The collection may be unique but the stories contained are, for the most part, not. Have you ever read "The Hero With a Thousand Faces"?

No I have not. What is the "Hero's" plan for eternal life?

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[rushmc 23]

Thanks for your posts here. I am enjoying reading them.

That being said I would like to share something with you (and all who care to read this) about what Father said at church last week.

First, know that he at times makes the hair on the back of neck stand up. And sometimes, like last week he made the hair on my arms stand up.

The jist of his sermon was on faith.

He made some points I found very interesting.

1) The opposite of love is not hate, it is apathy
2) The opposite of faith is not doubt but is apathy as well.
3) Doubt is a part of faith. It is a necessary activity that those of faith must exercise every day.
4) And these observations lead me to think that those who post negativly here (anti faith)are placed, by God, to create doubt and force the exercise of faith.

So, to them, I smile and say thanks

Marc

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[tkhayes 348]

Quote

Religion is ritualized behavior and in that sense I would say you are a religious skydiver.

And I would disagree with you. I am not 'religious', but I would use other words to describe what you are trying to describe.

The thread is not about 'skydiving religion' it is about CHRISTIAN religion (and how fucked up it is in my opinion)

I love it when religious people try to tell us non-religious people that we are still religious. How dare you speak of my own personal belief structure like you know me or something......

Quote

Main Entry:
re·li·gion
Pronunciation:
\ri-ˈli-jən\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle English religioun, from Anglo-French religiun, Latin religion-, religio supernatural constraint, sanction, religious practice, perhaps from religare to restrain, tie back — more at rely
Date:
13th century
1 a: the state of a religious b (1): the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2): commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness
4: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith

[rushmc 23]

Quote

Quote

Religion is ritualized behavior and in that sense I would say you are a religious skydiver.

And I would disagree with you. I am not 'religious', but I would use other words to describe what you are trying to describe.

The thread is not about 'skydiving religion' it is about CHRISTIAN religion (and how fucked up it is in my opinion)

I love it when religious people try to tell us non-religious people that we are still religious. How dare you speak of my own personal belief structure like you know me or something......

Quote

Main Entry:
re·li·gion
Pronunciation:
\ri-ˈli-jən\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle English religioun, from Anglo-French religiun, Latin religion-, religio supernatural constraint, sanction, religious practice, perhaps from religare to restrain, tie back — more at rely
Date:
13th century
1 a: the state of a religious b (1): the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2): commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness
4: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith

Hmm, I have not seen anyone doing whay you claim. I DO think however, you are PUT here for a reason.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[tkhayes 348]

Quote

Hmm, I have not seen anyone doing whay you claim. I DO think however, you are PUT here for a reason.

I agree. The reason would be sperm and an egg getting together about 49 years ago......

[tkhayes 348]

http://bible.cc/acts/9-18.htm

Which version should we use?

[tkhayes 348]

Quote

I see you did not investigate the Scriptural reference but responded from emotion and intellect.

First, you incorrectly assumed that the scales were like fish scales. Secondly, you assumed that the reference is not verifiable because it was only recorded after many years of verbal declaration.

The Bible is not a book but a collection of sixty-six books written by approximately forty authors, Holy Spirit inspired, over a period of approximately one thousand five hundred years and is used to support itself. That is a unique collection.

The Book of Acts was recorded by a physician named Luke, an original disciple, and follows his gospel. The authenticity of his work is not disputed.

You are obviously a very intelligent person. You know many facts and details within your sphere of consciousness. What I am discussing exists outside your sphere of consciousness. It will not make any sense what so ever until you are willing to allow your shell of ignorance to be broken. Until then you will see through the glass darkly.

There is one argument that cannot be defended against, that is, contempt prior to investigation.

Used to support itself? So the book is right because the book says it is right? Wow, that is some solid evidence.

And we are not in a shell of ignorance. We ask "WHY?" and we expect an answer. We do not 'assume' anything.

[RonD1120 62]

Quote

Quote

Religion is ritualized behavior and in that sense I would say you are a religious skydiver.

And I would disagree with you. I am not 'religious', but I would use other words to describe what you are trying to describe.

The thread is not about 'skydiving religion' it is about CHRISTIAN religion (and how fucked up it is in my opinion)

I love it when religious people try to tell us non-religious people that we are still religious. How dare you speak of my own personal belief structure like you know me or something......

Quote

Main Entry:
re·li·gion
Pronunciation:
\ri-ˈli-jən\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle English religioun, from Anglo-French religiun, Latin religion-, religio supernatural constraint, sanction, religious practice, perhaps from religare to restrain, tie back — more at rely
Date:
13th century
1 a: the state of a religious b (1): the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2): commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness
4: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith

Seems to me that 2, 3 and 4 fit well. Number one could be argued but I am not going to take the time. The concept being there are many gods but only one creator - God.

You lack the discernment between religion and relationship. To understand Christian faith you must know the difference. Religion tends to center on behavior. Relationship is an attitude of the heart. The greatest distance for a non-believer to travel to become a believer is the distance from his mind to his heart.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[RonD1120 62]

Quote

Quote

I see you did not investigate the Scriptural reference but responded from emotion and intellect.

First, you incorrectly assumed that the scales were like fish scales. Secondly, you assumed that the reference is not verifiable because it was only recorded after many years of verbal declaration.

The Bible is not a book but a collection of sixty-six books written by approximately forty authors, Holy Spirit inspired, over a period of approximately one thousand five hundred years and is used to support itself. That is a unique collection.

There is one argument that cannot be defended against, that is, contempt prior to investigation.

Used to support itself? So the book is right because the book says it is right? Wow, that is some solid evidence.

And we are not in a shell of ignorance. We ask "WHY?" and we expect an answer. We do not 'assume' anything.

It appears that you are responding rapidly without fully considering what you are reading. Your emotions are guiding you. Slow down and concentrate on SDC business. I'll be here tomorrow.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[Belgian_Draft 0]

Quote

Quote

Quote

The Bible is not a book but a collection of sixty-six books written by approximately forty authors, Holy Spirit inspired, over a period of approximately one thousand five hundred years and is used to support itself. That is a unique collection.

The collection may be unique but the stories contained are, for the most part, not. Have you ever read "The Hero With a Thousand Faces"?

No I have not. What is the "Hero's" plan for eternal life?

Sorry, but I had to chuckle at the irony of your reply. The book is a non-fiction work dealing with cultural stories and legends that is shared by virtually all human societies. The stories in the Bible are no exception and the story of Jesus follows the theme very well.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

[RonD1120 62]

Quote

The collection may be unique but the stories contained are, for the most part, not. Have you ever read "The Hero With a Thousand Faces"?

No I have not. What is the "Hero's" plan for eternal life?

Sorry, but I had to chuckle at the irony of your reply. The book is a non-fiction work dealing with cultural stories and legends that is shared by virtually all human societies. The stories in the Bible are no exception and the story of Jesus follows the theme very well.

I'm glad I gave you a laugh. Laughter is the best medicine.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[tkhayes 348]

Quote

You lack the discernment between religion and relationship. To understand Christian faith you must know accept the difference. Religion tends to center on behavior. Relationship is an attitude of the heart. The greatest distance for a non-believer to travel to become a believer is the distance from his mind to his heart.

fixed that for you - and this is only your opinion. which you are entitled to. i do not adhere to it, nor do I agree with it.

[RonD1120 62]

Quote

Quote

You lack the discernment between religion and relationship. To understand Christian faith you must know accept the difference. Religion tends to center on behavior. Relationship is an attitude of the heart. The greatest distance for a non-believer to travel to become a believer is the distance from his mind to his heart.

fixed that for you - and this is only your opinion. which you are entitled to. i do not adhere to it, nor do I agree with it.

Fair enough. However, you did not FIX anything. You are clear that you do not understand the difference between a religion and a relationship. I'm OK with that.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[tbrown 26]

The guy belongs in jail. He has clearly used the public airwaves to advocate the assasination of the President of the United States. That is a felony. Lock his ass up and throw away the key.

I'd have said the same for any fucking preacher who might have said the same about Bush, though I've never heard of an instance of that happening.

A lot of you on these forums are too young to remember what a presidential assasination, or even a near assasination is like. I was 8 years old when JFK got it and 25 when Reagan nearly died. It is NOT the American way and it's time the wingnuts woke up to the fact.

and while he's in jail, beat him until he's a cripp;le with a shattered jaw. Fucking preachers, I hate em all.

Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity !

[tbrown 26]

This asshole lives and preaches in MY town. What a fucking embarrassment.

I just HATE preachers who justify lunatic shit like this with the most obscure scriptural technicalities, like "imprecatory prayer". In all my life, and several different denominations running the gamut from Roman Catholic to Assemblies of God, I've never even HEARD of this bullshit. All assholes like him do is drive people away from the church - and someday he'll have to answer for it. In the meantime, he still really does belong in jail.

Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity !

[masterblaster72 0]

Quote

Jesus Saves!

Indeed he does!

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.