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QuoteOr more simplistically, why hasn’t Al Qa’eda used chem,* radiological, or bio weapons? (*setting aside momentarily the use of chlorine-coupled IEDs by AQ-affiliated insurgents in western Iraq in 2006-07). Does this suggest that the impetus to escalate to chem, bio, or rad weapons is over-hyped? … insurgents aren’t running out of materials for IEDs.
Well unconventional does neccessarily have to equal wmd. The 911 attacks were highly uncovnetional.
Suspect that you may have meant to insert a “not” in that first sentence, yes?
Yeah, I was trying to formulate the thought while multitasking and forgot the "not", sorry about that.
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The lesson that you originally suggested (inventory drives weapons choice) seemed to be quite different from your second response:Appreciate the expansion & clarification.QuoteAnother lesson for future wars can be taken away from the site. If you are going to pick a fight make damn sure you got enough material to finish it. A shortage of exsplosives for artillery rounds was the leading imeptus for Germany's introduction of chem warfare.
the dichotomy is from the difference between the perfect and the real world. In a perfect would you do get to be that flexible. In the real world you get to work with what you have on hand and in that case, you better have enough of it.
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I would rather wash my hands with molten Phenol.QuoteNB: sulfur mustard isn't a gas at any temperature you would want to be around. The boiling point is above 400F. It decomposes in an oxygenated atmosphere before boiling. The vapor pressure is fairly low (0.072 mm Hg at 68F). It solidifies at ~56F, depending on purity.
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"I don't think I like the sound of that" ~ MB65
Don't be a "Racer Hater"
I've avoided this thread for a while; it breaks my heart - whether we're speaking about our relatives in WW I or II, or our brothers, more recently; in Iraq or Afghan. Recently I'm fuckin' sick and tired of attending funerals. Anyway - I'd the recent honour of attending a battlefield tour with a surviving glider pilot.
He was explaining his defensive position to me; where the trenches were built; where the supporting fire was; and most importantly, as the sun burst through from some typical European rain clouds - where he'd lost his Gold lighter. 'Over there, by those Beech trees...'
Can you imagine what I'd have done to find this mans lighter? His wee description - his lighter - the way he brought reality back into the present - the way our boys are being wasted now!?
'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'
He was explaining his defensive position to me; where the trenches were built; where the supporting fire was; and most importantly, as the sun burst through from some typical European rain clouds - where he'd lost his Gold lighter. 'Over there, by those Beech trees...'
Can you imagine what I'd have done to find this mans lighter? His wee description - his lighter - the way he brought reality back into the present - the way our boys are being wasted now!?
'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'
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A follow-up to one of the discussions this thread w/r/t the “54,896 names engraved on the sides of the Menin Gate [who] are British and former British Empire soldiers whose bodies were never found. They have no graves,” regarding how almost 55,000 bodies could not be found.
While there are multiple explanations – some are buried in unmarked graves, some were incinerated/blasted until nothing remained, and every year new remains are found, like those mentioned in this story from NPR on the discovery of a “WWI-Era Mass Grave Rediscovered In France” containing the remains of some 250 British and Australian soldiers who previously had no graves.
/Marg
Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters.
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While there are multiple explanations – some are buried in unmarked graves, some were incinerated/blasted until nothing remained, and every year new remains are found, like those mentioned in this story from NPR on the discovery of a “WWI-Era Mass Grave Rediscovered In France” containing the remains of some 250 British and Australian soldiers who previously had no graves.
“A landscape of church spires and farmers' fields surrounds the tiny French village of Fromelles. Today, there's little sign that this was once the site of a horrific battle. In July 1916, thousands of fresh-faced British and Australian recruits stormed across no man's land in an attempt to take heavily fortified German trenches.There soon may be 250 fewer names on the Menin Gate.
“The Battle of Fromelles ended in total slaughter. About 7,000 soldiers of the British Empire were cut down in two days by German guns and shells. Buried by the Germans behind enemy lines, many of these men might have remained hidden forever if not for some determined historians and ground-penetrating radar.
“David Richardson of the Commonwealth War Graves Commission says they hope to identify some of the soldiers by matching their DNA with that of living relatives. ‘We found 250, exactly 250, sets of remains, and it's very heavy, wet, clay soil here. So they would have been at a fairly constant temperature, fairly wet all the time, and so, preservation was pretty good. Hair, of course, still there on some of the remains. You know, 93 years later, we're still finding DNA.’
“David Richardson says as his team studies each set of remains, trying to establish an identity and cause of death, a picture begins to emerge of the individual soldier.
“Not far from where the archaeologists are working, bricklayers are laying the foundations for the first cemetery to be built by the Commonwealth War Graves Commission in 50 years on land donated by the village. Fromelles has had a bond with Australia since the Great War. The town's school has two clocks. One shows French time, the other the time in Melbourne.”
/Marg
Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters.
Tibetan Buddhist saying
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Anyone with a hawkish disposition should visit Verdun, Ypres, Paschendale or the Somme and get an attitude adjustment.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
Do you really think such visits would change their attitudes?
Do you really think it's that simple?
'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'
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QuoteDo you really think such visits would change their attitudes?
Do you really think it's that simple?
I certaily don't think it would affect most of the chickenhawks... they are too busy and too special in their world.
QuoteQuoteDo you really think such visits would change their attitudes?
Do you really think it's that simple?
I certaily don't think it would affect most of the chickenhawks... they are too busy and too special in their world.
Perhaps. Maybe you'd be surprised over how many have seriously sleepness nights going over what they thought would be the best for everyone. As you'd no doubt be un-suprised over the other cunts thinking no further than their pathetic bank accounts....
'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'
No, I'm not sure.
He references being affected by some unspecified chemical warfare agent (CWA) in Mein Kampf … a number of years after it happened. There are debates as to what it was. The characteristics and symptoms he describes, some 4 to 6 years later, don’t fit chlorine perfectly nor do they fit sulfur mustard exactly. Both cause temporary blindness. Chlorine is more likely to cause hoarseness and sore throat than sulfur mustard. The delay he remembers suggests sulfur mustard, but the lack of blisters suggests it’s not. The smell that he recalled, something similar to the iodoform, which he remembered from it being used medicinally as part of the treatment of his mother’s breast cancer, is closer to chlorine (sharp acrid) than sulfur mustard (garlic) but also notably different from both. Could have been phosgene (freshly cut grass) or chloropicrin (also sharp acrid – mixed with chlorine it was “Yellow Star”) as well. Most likely, the CWA came from the British, who had all in their arsenal at the time. If you want to call it sulfur mustard, you’ll have plenty of good & smart company.
NB: sulfur mustard isn't a gas at any temperature you would want to be around. The boiling point is above 400F. It decomposes in an oxygenated atmosphere before boiling. The vapor pressure is fairly low (0.072 mm Hg at 68F). It solidifies at ~56F, depending on purity.
/Marg
Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters.
Tibetan Buddhist saying
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