billvon 2,998 #51 June 23, 2009 >That is incorrect. Ah, so you are unsure why Mars is warming, and why Uranus is cooling. Fair enough; we know very little about the climate on those planets. But unless you believe they orbit different suns, it wouldn't make much sense to claim both were due to solar effects, now, would it? In any case, solar radiation (what we actually measure here on earth) is decreasing due to a very low sunspot cycle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broke 0 #52 June 23, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx4pN-aiofwDivot your source for all things Hillbilly. Anvil Brother 84 SCR 14192 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #53 June 23, 2009 QuoteHe uses the terms from the Roman era ("plebes", "bread and circuses", etc) for rhetorical effect Exactly. The rhetorical effect being that his quote appears to be supported by recorded history. Framing it as if it actually happened, therefore giving it weight. It doesn't matter what fictional universe Heinlein put the quote in, the reader is in this universe, just like Rome was. It is absolutely calculated to give that effect - it's why our Texan friend incessantly quotes it as a substitute for real thought or argument.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #54 June 23, 2009 QuoteThe rhetorical effect being that his quote appears to be supported by recorded history. Framing it as if it actually happened, therefore giving it weight Just because YOU interpreted it in that matter doesn't make it so. Quoteincessantly quotes it as a substitute for real thought or argument. To quote billvon: "In the immortal words of Dan Cook - 'yeah, whatever'". When you can rebut the principle behind the quoted statement, let me know. Until then (and probably after) I'll continue to use it as I damn well please, since it is such an accurate descriptor of political promises.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites