rushmc 23 #1 June 22, 2009 You can start to dislike Obama now if you want to. You may be in the majority soon From Rasmussen Reports (found on Drudge) http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TankBuster 0 #2 June 22, 2009 Quote You can start to dislike Obama now if you want to. You may be in the majority soonFrom Rasmussen Reports (found on Drudge) http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll Ah well, about half the country wants a king, and wants to be ruled. Hopefully that'll change too.The forecast is mostly sunny with occasional beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #3 June 22, 2009 >Ah well, about half the country wants a king, and wants to be >ruled. Hopefully that'll change too. It did - about six months ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #4 June 22, 2009 Quote >Ah well, about half the country wants a king, and wants to be >ruled. Hopefully that'll change too. It did - about six months ago. Yup - looks like people decided that they wanted a ruler instead of a leader after all. Edit: Please don't think that I'm implying that McCain would have been the latter as opposed to Obama. I'm a fan of Paul. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #5 June 22, 2009 > looks like people decided that they wanted a ruler instead of a >leader after all. Yep, never figured the vote in 2000. A choice between a nerd and King George II and they went with the king. Ah well. Some people like to be told what to do, I guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TankBuster 0 #6 June 22, 2009 Quote>Ah well, about half the country wants a king, and wants to be >ruled. Hopefully that'll change too. It did - about six months ago. Let's see . . . . I can go now go buy a car from a government owned company and drive to a government owned bank, who takes its orders from the Federal Reserve which has gained more power and also has salaries set by a Geithner, who should be in jail, but was appointed by his majesty anyhow. . . . . and then maybe to the doctor, where they too will soon be taking orders from another Federal czar . . . yeah, I see your point.The forecast is mostly sunny with occasional beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #7 June 22, 2009 > I can go now go buy a car from a government owned company and drive >to a government owned bank, who takes its orders from the Federal >Reserve which has gained more power and also has salaries set by a >Geithner, who should be in jail, but was appointed by his majesty anyhow. (psst - dude - Obama didn't start the bailouts) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #8 June 22, 2009 Quote > I can go now go buy a car from a government owned company and drive >to a government owned bank, who takes its orders from the Federal >Reserve which has gained more power and also has salaries set by a >Geithner, who should be in jail, but was appointed by his majesty anyhow. (psst - dude - Obama didn't start the bailouts) Just because he didn't start the fire doesn't mean it's OK to continue pouring gasoline on it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TankBuster 0 #9 June 22, 2009 Quote> I can go now go buy a car from a government owned company and drive >to a government owned bank, who takes its orders from the Federal >Reserve which has gained more power and also has salaries set by a >Geithner, who should be in jail, but was appointed by his majesty anyhow. (psst - dude - Obama didn't start the bailouts) psst - dude - he was part of the Democrat controlled Senate who passed the TARP legislation! You think they did that to give power to King George?The forecast is mostly sunny with occasional beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #10 June 22, 2009 >Just because he didn't start the fire doesn't mean it's OK to >continue pouring gasoline on it. Oh, I agree, and he's definitely going overboard with the bailout (and subsequent government control.) It was certainly a bipartisan effort. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #11 June 22, 2009 Quote>Just because he didn't start the fire doesn't mean it's OK to >continue pouring gasoline on it. Oh, I agree, and he's definitely going overboard with the bailout (and subsequent government control.) It was certainly a bipartisan effort. One of the sad facts of the situation is that even if Bush hadn't gone through with the TARP/bailouts, the current administration would be blaming him for his inaction rather than his action like they currently are. It seems in politics, doing something, even if it's worse than doing nothing, still looks better than doing nothing at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #12 June 22, 2009 >It seems in politics, doing something, even if it's worse than >doing nothing, still looks better than doing nothing at all. Yep. And the best solution of all is just passing the problem on to the next administration. Rick Santorum: "President Bush blew it. You know, he went out and convinced the Congress to give him a bunch of money to save the financial sector and then decided to take a little piece of that and give it to General Motors and Chrysler. Why? He punted. He basically said, I don’t want this failure to be on my watch. I want to let Obama deal with it." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hetsahc 0 #13 June 22, 2009 Unless, of course, doing nothing means sitting in a classroom full of school children while the World Trade Center towers are being destroyed. 'Cause then in that case they just say that the president (if he is republican) is foolish, or stupid, or an idiot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingOsh 0 #14 June 22, 2009 Quote> I can go now go buy a car from a government owned company and drive >to a government owned bank, who takes its orders from the Federal >Reserve which has gained more power and also has salaries set by a >Geithner, who should be in jail, but was appointed by his majesty anyhow. (psst - dude - Obama didn't start the bailouts) 6 posts before a BDIF. Outstanding. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #15 June 22, 2009 >6 posts before a BDIF What you are blaming on Obama was actually put in place by Bush. That's not a BDIF, that's a BDINO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingOsh 0 #16 June 22, 2009 Quote>6 posts before a BDIF What you are blaming on Obama was actually put in place by Bush. That's not a BDIF, that's a BDINO. Really? Bush put the $T bailout through congress? Bush nationalized the automotive companies? Bush passed a budget with the largest deficit in history (by 4 times)? Bush did all of that in the last three months? Either Bush is doing a fantastic job using Obama as a puppet or Obama is the President and may actually be responsible for his actions. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #17 June 22, 2009 >Bush put the $T bailout through congress? $700 billion actually. Yes, he lobbied hard for TARP. The first time it didn't pass. The second time it did, and he signed it into law within hours. > Bush nationalized the automotive companies? Uh, no, no one has "nationalized" anything despite what you are reading on right wing websites. However, GM has accepted a lot of money under TARP - and when a company accepts money under TARP, they also have to agree to things like executive pay limitations. This is what people are referring to as "nationalization." Again, if you have an issue with that, perhaps you could take it up with the president who pushed so hard for it. > Bush passed a budget with the largest deficit in history (by 4 times)? Yep. Obama then promptly beat his short-lived record. >Bush did all of that in the last three months? ?? Uh, are you somewhere where you can't get access to the news? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #18 June 22, 2009 Does anyone “make up [their] mind based on polls”? Perhaps I should make a poll? [silly]-Polls are a way to measure people’s opinions, perceptions, inclinations, and feelings, imo. /Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryzflies 0 #19 June 22, 2009 And then there's THIS.If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hetsahc 0 #20 June 22, 2009 Sure. But when they do it it is the same thing as appealing to the masses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #21 June 22, 2009 QuoteSure. But when they do it it is the same thing as appealing to the masses. "Sure" - w/r/t what? I don't understand your response. Sorry. Who are "they"? /Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hetsahc 0 #22 June 22, 2009 Quote Does anyone “make up [their] mind based on polls”? Yes. But when they do it is the same thing as appealing to the masses. Appealing to the masses here would mean that they are simply taking a stance because there exists a majority with that opinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #23 June 23, 2009 QuoteAnd then there's THIS. And then there's This - damn... a 20 point shift in less than a month. QuoteWhile most U.S. voters still blame the Bush Administration for the nation’s economic problems, a growing number are inclined to blame President Barack Obama. A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 39% of voters now say the country’s economic problems are caused more by the policies Obama has put in place. That’s a 12-point jump from a month ago. Fifty-four percent (54%) still say the country’s economic woes are due to the recession Obama inherited from President Bush. That figure is down eight points from 62% from early June. By a two-to-one margin, voters also have more confidence in themselves than in the president when it comes to the economy. This marks a significant shift from just after Obama took office. Sixty percent (60%) of voters now trust their own economic judgment more than the president’s. In early February, 49% had more trust in themselves while 39% trusted the president more. Now only 30% trust Obama more when it comes to the economic issues facing the nation. This is hardly surprising: QuoteYounger voters are more likely than their elders to blame the current economic situation on the recession that began under Bush. The majority of middle income voters place more of the blame on Obama’s policies.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #24 June 23, 2009 QuoteThis is hardly surprising: QuoteYounger voters are more likely than their elders to blame the current economic situation on the recession that began under Bush. The majority of middle income voters place more of the blame on Obama’s policies. Do you happen to know how they're defining "younger" and "older"? Or "middle income" for that matter?-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #25 June 23, 2009 QuoteQuoteThis is hardly surprising: QuoteYounger voters are more likely than their elders to blame the current economic situation on the recession that began under Bush. The majority of middle income voters place more of the blame on Obama’s policies. Do you happen to know how they're defining "younger" and "older"? Or "middle income" for that matter? I do not - I would imagine it is self-identification, like most polls.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites