maxwellman23 0 #1 July 7, 2009 Our great nation died long ago. Disagree? I would enjoy your opinionI am ALIVE! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NovaTTT 2 #2 July 7, 2009 Our nation lives, and remains great. We are perched to slip into socialism, however. America will survive. Will we remain great?"Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
makeithappen40 0 #3 July 7, 2009 >We are perched to slip into socialism, however What type? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdazel 0 #4 July 7, 2009 Not dead yet, but dying of a slow, painful, cancer-like disease called liberalism. (this one's going to get me in trouble. ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
makeithappen40 0 #5 July 7, 2009 Remember, second place just means your the first loser. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdazel 0 #6 July 7, 2009 Did you learn that nonsensical mantra in third grade when you should have been learning grammar? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxwellman23 0 #7 July 7, 2009 I sense we are treading in water much deeper and darker than once percieved http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/FEMA-Concentration-Camps3sep04.htm google REX 84 and read some web pagesI am ALIVE! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
makeithappen40 0 #8 July 7, 2009 No, but I learned not to trust people who look like mormons. (Sort of like you learned not to trust people who seem like socialists) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdazel 0 #9 July 7, 2009 So your school and/or parents failed you in at least two areas. That is unfortunate. But hey, thanks for making me smile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
makeithappen40 0 #10 July 7, 2009 Let's see, Flight Instructor, 850 hours, and a Bachelors degree by age 22. If they failed me, it sure worked out quite well. Hows your research on liberalism going? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #11 July 7, 2009 QuoteOur great nation died long ago. How long ago? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdazel 0 #12 July 7, 2009 Oh, how sad. Now there's a third. The third being measuring your self-worth by what you can put on your resume. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #13 July 7, 2009 >Our great nation died long ago. Disagree? Exactly! And it's all the illegal immigrants who are doing it - mainly Mexicans. Why should the Mexicans be suffered to swarm into our cities, and by herding together establish their language and manners to the exclusion of ours? Why should California and Texas, founded by Americans, become a colony of aliens, who will soon be so numerous as to Mexicanize us instead of our Americanizing them, and will never adopt our language or customs, any more than they can acquire our complexion? (Ten points to anyone who can identify the original quote.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
makeithappen40 0 #14 July 7, 2009 Yep. Totally. There are very special ways of measuring self-worth out there, and market-orientation isn't one of them for me. (One of the methods being the ethical standards laid out in religion... you should know that being a mormon and all) Actually, measuring yourself in terms of the total dollar value you are worth or "marketing yourself to employers" happens pretty often in capitalistic societies. Wait a minute, isn't that the kind of society that you are defending here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #15 July 7, 2009 America isn't dead. It's more like a Cyberdyne Technolied T-1000 - changing shapes in response to the environmental cues and human desires, but no matter what the form, it's still a Terminator. The way that we know that America is still alive is that we still have peaceful transitions of power. When there is a non-peaceful transition of power or a violent maintenance of power, America will be no more. p.s. With my aforementioned rule it could be argued that the Civil War was a death of America. I understand that. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SivaGanesha 2 #16 July 7, 2009 Quote Our great nation died long ago. Disagree? I would enjoy your opinion I would ask the question as to how many people from other countries wish to immigrate to the USA versus how many Americans wish to emigrate to other countries. You hear a lot about how, for example, China is a country on the rise and America is in decline--but you see lots of Chinese trying to emigrate here and not too many Americans eager to emigrate to China. If America were TRULY in decline you'd see another nation emerging as the world's prime destination for immigrants, and people from all countries--including America--lining up to get in there. I don't see that happening right now."It's hard to have fun at 4-way unless your whole team gets down to the ground safely to do it again!"--Northern California Skydiving League re USPA Safety Day, March 8, 2014 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #17 July 7, 2009 QuoteNo, but I learned not to trust people who look like mormons. (Sort of like you learned not to trust people who seem like socialists) Now that is worthy of quoting in a sig line. Really good, no kidding. Thanks! "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #18 July 7, 2009 Quote Our great nation died long ago. Disagree? I would enjoy your opinion The timing of this thread is apt Sound Familiar; Quote When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. This has just happened in the last election, the ones that oppose the change are most likely the ones who had benefited most from the last reign. It does seem bizzare that the above words were written by those that kept human slaves!?!"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #19 July 7, 2009 Quote Our great nation died long ago. Disagree? I would enjoy your opinion No, for the last few years it was on the critical list and in the CCU however its currently in the HDU short term prospect not that great but it looks like it will make a stable recovery and there is no reason why the USA shouldn't have a long and happy life. Of course like any high level business leader thats had a heart attack it won't go back to the high stress posistion it once had but it will do ok in a directors posistion with a larger board guiding the larger community into the future.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #20 July 7, 2009 Quote it could be argued that the Civil War was a death of America. I understand that. As it could be argued that the war of independence was the cultural death of AmericaWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yarpos 4 #21 July 7, 2009 respect for America in much of the rest of the world is dead or at least badly wounded, but probably only a small % of Americans care I guess. I hope it improves, I dont think its a healthy situation.regards, Steve the older I get...the better I was Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #22 July 7, 2009 Obama's speech in Russia today is a good start in regaining that respect.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #23 July 7, 2009 QuoteNo, but I learned not to trust people who look like mormons. (Sort of like you learned not to trust people who seem like socialists) I learned not to judge people based on appearance. Where did you go to school? Judgmentalism R Us?-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 362 #24 July 7, 2009 It was Benjamin Franklin: “[W]hy should Palatine Boors be suffered to swarm into our Settlements and, by herding together, establish their Language and Manners, to the Exclusion of ours? Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them?” Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdazel 0 #25 July 7, 2009 And there's the fourth. Your blind assumptions reveal your naivety. Try again... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
