warpedskydiver 0 #1 July 15, 2009 It would take 31688 years 32 days 1 hour 46 minutes 40 seconds to equal 1 Trillion seconds. If you spent 20 billion a day for 50 years, you would get to one trillion. If you spent 20 billion a day, the time it would take for you to spend the current national debt of $11,530,221,982,526.25 as of 23:08CST would be 575 years. If you take into account the proposed Obama expenditures you would easily have well over 20 trillion in the national debt. Now won't you sleep well knowing hope and change are doing such a good thing for all of us? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #2 July 15, 2009 QuoteIt would take 31688 years 32 days 1 hour 46 minutes 40 seconds to equal 1 Trillion seconds. If you spent 20 billion a day for 50 years you would get to one trillion. If you spent 20 billion a day the time it would take for you to spend the current national debt of; $11,530,221,982,526.25 as of 23:08CST would be 575 years. If you take into account the proposed Obama expenditures you would easily have well over 20 trillion in the national debt. Now won't you sleep well knowing hope and change are doing such a good thing for all of us? Did you worry about it as much when Reagan and Bush were doubling it?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #3 July 15, 2009 A CBDIF in the first post...outstanding!Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #4 July 15, 2009 What they did was a drop in the bucket. You are good with numbers, please explain how Obama is helping all of us. You voted for him, I guess you are happy with the results? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdamLanes 1 #5 July 15, 2009 Check your math. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #6 July 15, 2009 QuoteWhat they did was a drop in the bucket. You are good with numbers, please explain how Obama is helping all of us. You voted for him, I guess you are happy with the results? I am not in favor of debt now, nor during Reagan's reign, nor during Bush's. However, since you are a johnny-come-lately to fiscal responsibility you might consider that even now RR and GWB are responsible for most of the debt.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #7 July 15, 2009 Quote Check your math. You are correct it would take 576 yearsYeah that's right I made a typo Well what about it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #8 July 15, 2009 And in just one term in office Obama will outspend them both. In eight years he will make that number seem trivial Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #9 July 15, 2009 QuoteAnd in just one term in office Obama will outspend them both. In eight years he will make that number seem trivial It's ok - he's a Dem, and Dems can do no wrongMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdamLanes 1 #10 July 15, 2009 QuoteIf you spent 20 billion a day for 50 years, you would get to one trillion. 20 billion times 365 days in a year times 50 years = 365 trillion. If you spend 20 billion a day it would takes less than 2 years to spend 11.5 trillion! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #11 July 15, 2009 It is nice knowing that Obama would like to spend more dollars than there are in the Milky Way.(10to12th) 10to22nd to 10to24th stars in the Universe Excuse me for forgetting how to represent exponents on a qwerty keyboard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #12 July 15, 2009 QuoteQuoteIf you spent 20 billion a day for 50 years, you would get to one trillion. 20 billion times 365 days in a year times 50 years = 365 trillion. If you spend 20 billion a day it would takes less than 2 years to spend 11.5 trillion! Let's hope Obama never sees this thread, then... he doesn't need any more ideas.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #13 July 15, 2009 I used years instead of days. You are correct, I guess that the current spending is not so much, care to break open your piggy bank? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdamLanes 1 #14 July 15, 2009 I think it shows that the spending is even more out of control than you thought when you originally posted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #15 July 15, 2009 True, the current rate of spending per day is HUGE. The war in Iraq was like the late fee on a book. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,079 #16 July 15, 2009 For all the faux-outraged GOPers, I think this kind of says it all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #17 July 15, 2009 Obama plans to spend more than the current national debt. According to Obama himself at least 8 trillion more in spending. Wanna bet that it will top that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #18 July 15, 2009 QuoteQuoteAnd in just one term in office Obama will outspend them both. In eight years he will make that number seem trivial It's ok - he's a Dem, and Dems can do no wrong Well, they've certainly been outspent by the GOP up to this point.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #19 July 15, 2009 QuoteObama plans to spend more than the current national debt. Taking a cue from Reagan then? Your conversion to fiscal conservatism, although late, is admirable.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingOsh 0 #20 July 15, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteAnd in just one term in office Obama will outspend them both. In eight years he will make that number seem trivial It's ok - he's a Dem, and Dems can do no wrong Well, they've certainly been outspent by the GOP up to this point. So your response to all of this is "well the GOP spent money too?" -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #21 July 15, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteAnd in just one term in office Obama will outspend them both. In eight years he will make that number seem trivial It's ok - he's a Dem, and Dems can do no wrong Well, they've certainly been outspent by the GOP up to this point. So your response to all of this is "well the GOP spent money too?" No, my response was (and still is): "Your conversion to fiscal conservatism, although late, is admirable." The Republicans' attitude to Obama's spending is rather like their attitude to sexual peccadillos - "do as I say and not as I do." Fact is, under Reagan the debt nearly TRIPLED.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #22 July 15, 2009 QuoteWell, they've certainly been outspent by the GOP up to this point. It depends on who you think does the spending. Congress? The President? The GOP does need to look in the mirror a bit and realize that the most fiscally responsible president of modern times was actually Bill Clinton--and it pains me to say that. The problem is that there is no incentive for Congress to actually balance the budget, and huge incentives for them to continue spending all of us into massive debt. It's not so much a problem with this or that party (since both parties are very guilty), as a systemic problem with the way our government is financed, how it spends money, and how decisions are made. This is the ultimate case of the government being shortsighted. "Long term" planning for government finance means more than one presidential term, because your party's guy is still in his first term. After that, it's a free for all, because hey, someone else will deal with the mess, right?-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #23 July 15, 2009 QuoteFor all the faux-outraged GOPers, I think this kind of says it all. Do you happen to have one that shows control of Congress? I have a theory that spending is greatest when the same party controls Congress and the White House, but I haven't actually looked into the numbers,-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #24 July 15, 2009 I think you are confused that I was never concerned about fiscal responsibility. Spending needs to occur, sometimes that number is quite high. Reagan's spending was largely on the military which was woefully lacking in very department. When I joined during Carter we still had equipment from the WWII era. We had flak vests instead of kevlar. Steel pots which were useful for wasking up or boing water. Crappy boots. Lousy gear, worn out weapons. Awful vehicles. I guess you were ok with all that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #25 July 15, 2009 QuoteI think you are confused that I was never concerned about fiscal responsibility. Spending needs to occur, sometimes that number is quite high. Reagan's spending was largely on the military which was woefully lacking in very department. When I joined during Carter we still had equipment from the WWII era. We had flak vests instead of kevlar. You don't suppose the fact that the kevlar vest development program didn't end until 1976 and the Army didn't finish its approval process until 1978 had anything to do with that, do you? Quote Steel pots which were useful for wasking up or boing water. Crappy boots. Lousy gear, worn out weapons. Awful vehicles. I guess you were ok with all that. Right now we have crappy roads Crappy schools Crappy bridges A crappy recession that started under Bush and was denied by the GOP for nearly a year. I guess you are OK with that.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
