kbordson 8 #101 July 21, 2009 Quote CD: Oh, irony. We do not get that here. People ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony is not a high priority. We have not had irony here since 1980 when I was the only practitioner of it, and I stopped as I was tired of being stared at. Side note (and a lil hijack) - I think that Steve Martin did an EXCELLENT job in that movie, but I liked the 1950 version with Jose Ferrer better Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #103 July 21, 2009 "A federal judge tossed out a controversial lawsuit Thursday brought here by a U.S. Army reservist seeking to avoid deployment to Afghanistan because he questions Barack Obama’s eligibility as president. "Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook filed the suit July 8 with the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Georgia [Looks like that's over by you [GeogiaDon]. It's not ATL metro area. - nerdgirl] seeking conscientious objector status and a temporary injunction. "'The same Constitution upon which Major Cook relies in support of his contention that President Barack Obama is not eligible to serve as President of the United States very clearly provides that federal courts shall only have the authority to hear actual ‘cases and controversies,’ [U.S. District Judge Clay] Land [a former Republican State Senator from Columbus GA, who was appointed by Pres Bush in 2001] stated in his written order. "'By restricting the Judiciary’s power to actual ‘cases and controversies,’ our founders wisely established a separation of powers that would ensure the freedom of their fellow citizens. They concluded that the Judicial Branch, the unelected branch, should not inject itself into purely "political disputes," and that it should not entangle itself in hypothetical debates which had not ripened to an actual legal dispute.'" Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #104 July 21, 2009 [conspiracy_mode] That just proves that there is a cover-up! The judge refused to hear the case because he KNOWS that Obama cannot defend his forged birth certificate! Why won't they let the truth come out? How long will all you sheeple blindly follow the Great Obama's lies? [/conspiracy_mode] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #105 July 22, 2009 http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/22/martin.obama.birth/index.html Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #106 July 22, 2009 Quote http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/22/martin.obama.birth/index.html Blues, Dave Quote "The president could just end this once and for all by producing the birth certificate." ... For example, in August, 2008, factcheck.org published the following: "FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false." According to this there is a birth certificate and some people have seen it ... so why not produce it for every one to see?"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #107 July 22, 2009 Quote Quote http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/22/martin.obama.birth/index.html Blues, Dave Quote "The president could just end this once and for all by producing the birth certificate." ... For example, in August, 2008, factcheck.org published the following: "FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false." According to this there is a birth certificate and some people have seen it ... so why not produce it for every one to see? Personally, to anyone and everyone who asks? Surely you see the flaw in this suggestion. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #108 July 22, 2009 What is so secret about a birth certificate? DOB? Names of Mother and Father? POB? Prints of feet? Blood Type? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #109 July 22, 2009 Quote Quote Quote http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/22/martin.obama.birth/index.html Blues, Dave Quote "The president could just end this once and for all by producing the birth certificate." ... For example, in August, 2008, factcheck.org published the following: "FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false." According to this there is a birth certificate and some people have seen it ... so why not produce it for every one to see? Personally, to anyone and everyone who asks? Surely you see the flaw in this suggestion. Blues, Dave No, I don't. Put it on display some where ... problem solved, move on."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #110 July 22, 2009 Quote http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/22/martin.obama.birth/index.html Blues, Dave That article is worthless and most likely partisan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #111 July 22, 2009 >What is so secret about a birth certificate? Nothing at all! Which is why he posted it for all (except the blind) to see. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #112 July 22, 2009 Well then show it to us. Show all of us Obama's Birth Certificate. NOT his CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #113 July 22, 2009 >NOT his CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH. That IS a birth certificate. It's what mine says. You know how a "motor vehicle operator's permit" is often called a driver's license? Same sort of thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #114 July 22, 2009 Nope that is not the same document. Look at Obama's Certificate of a Live Birth. see anything different between yours and his? I hope you will be honest enough to point out the inconsistencies. Please don't be evasive and claim just the names etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #115 July 22, 2009 QuoteNope that is not the same document. Look at Obama's Certificate of a Live Birth. see anything different between yours and his? I hope you will be honest enough to point out the inconsistencies. Please don't be evasive and claim just the names etc. Surely you are aware that in the USA certification of birth is a STATE, not a federal responsibility, and that the process and documentation vary from state to state.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #116 July 22, 2009 Yes I do, so why are you bringing it up? Do you think African is a race? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #117 July 22, 2009 QuoteYes I do, so why are you bringing it up? Because it makes nonsense of your previous post.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #118 July 22, 2009 Only according to you. In order for that document to be recognized as a legitimate form of identification in the 50 states it must contain various facts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BikerBabe 0 #119 July 22, 2009 He's bringing it up because he probably assumes (and i would guess quite correctly) that Bill was NOT born in Hawaii, thus his birth certificate will OF COURSE have significant differences to one issued in Hawaii.Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #120 July 22, 2009 QuoteOnly according to you. In order for that document to be recognized as a legitimate form of identification in the 50 states it must contain various facts. I think this is the relevant image.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyBoyd 0 #121 July 22, 2009 It is impossible to have a rational discussion with conspiracy nuts. There is no point in trying. The rest of us can only laugh at the absurdity. http://www.oddee.com/item_92285.aspx Actually, the Alien reptile theory does make some sense when you think about it... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #122 July 22, 2009 Quote No, I don't. Put it on display some where ... problem solved, move on. Do you expect this of every President? Representatives and Senators too? If I remember correctly, Obama did put it on display on his webpage during the campaign. And he did provide sufficient proof to the government. There is no requirement (and indeed a good argument against) him proving it to each individual according to their own level of satisfaction. I suspect that if there were a legitimate claim, McCain or the GOP would have brought it. They have substantially more resources and motivation than the average tin-foil-hat wearing nutjob. If you think he's now doing something wrong, the burden is on you to prove it. Otherwise, I'll presume him innocent of forgery, impersonating the President, or whatever other unsubstantiated assertion you'd like to make. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #123 July 22, 2009 Quote Quote http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/22/martin.obama.birth/index.html Blues, Dave That article is worthless and most likely partisan. LOL - as opposed to all the credible sources linked earlier in this thread? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #124 July 22, 2009 QuoteOnly according to you. In order for that document to be recognized as a legitimate form of identification in the 50 states it must contain various facts. Which facts do you think are missing? And which state has claimed that it isn't a legitimate form of identification? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #125 July 22, 2009 QuoteThat article is worthless and most likely partisan. I actually read all that guys editorials, mostly because he seems to actually engage in critical thought, which is conspicuous by it's absence in most of the partisan hacks CNN finds to write that kind of stuff. For what it's worth, I also like Ruben Navarette, even though I disagree with both of those guys quite frequently. There really are people thinking real, original thoughts out there--it's just hard to find them.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
