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chasteh 0
>Many people hate Microsoft because it is fashionable to hate any large company.
Aaand it was founded by a thief. Shit. Microsoft must not be a very good example of how businesses can be responsible on their own.
>just that they were successful and had made a shitload of money for a lot of shareholders.
You also made the statement that "many" people hate Microsoft "because it is fashionable to hate a large company." I am willing to say that even those people found other reasons to hate Microsoft, just like the hate many other large companies and their business practices.
Many people hate Microsoft because it was founded by a guy who stole the software and ease of use from another company who created that software and ease of use.
Many people hate Microsoft because it isn't realistically prone to a competitor's providing a worthy alternative. Macintosh is an expensive and worthless alternative. Buy a mac. Have zero compatibility. Spend a shitload of money to be a part of a "community" of other Mac-buyers.
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Buy a Linux-box and enjoy spending the rest of your life making it user-friendly.
billvon 3,013
>Many people hate Microsoft because it was founded by a guy who stole
>the software and ease of use from another company who created that software
>and ease of use.
Right. But Apple, who stole the concepts for their interface from Xerox PARC, is often supported by those same people, because they're smaller, cooler and are sorta edgy.
>the software and ease of use from another company who created that software
>and ease of use.
Right. But Apple, who stole the concepts for their interface from Xerox PARC, is often supported by those same people, because they're smaller, cooler and are sorta edgy.
chasteh 0
>Right. But Apple, who stole the concepts for their interface from Xerox PARC
Brilliant! Thus Microsoft stole something that Apple stole from Xerox. Scum all around!
Brilliant! Thus Microsoft stole something that Apple stole from Xerox. Scum all around!
billvon 3,013
>Brilliant! Thus Microsoft stole something that Apple stole from Xerox. Scum all around!
Yep. Everyone is scum. The Constitution stole from the Magna Carta. Ford stole the assembly line from Eli Whitney, who stole the idea from England. Heck, we here at Qualcomm "stole" stuff from Hedy Lamarr.
Yep. Everyone is scum. The Constitution stole from the Magna Carta. Ford stole the assembly line from Eli Whitney, who stole the idea from England. Heck, we here at Qualcomm "stole" stuff from Hedy Lamarr.
chasteh 0
>The Constitution stole from the Magna Carta
Isn't that like saying Spanish stole from Latin? Thats kinda different from one business stealing from another business.
>Ford stole the assembly line from Eli Whitney, who stole the idea from England
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But did he steal the idea of using an assembly line for the purposes of mass producing automobiles from Whitney? Thats a bit harder to relate to stealing an operating system that had the same code and the same interface, with different labels.
In this case, with Microsoft, Apple, Xerox, were talking about "stealing" something from another person, that would just so have happened to make that person the wealthiest person on Earth. That's a pretty big deal, bucko. (I will admit it was stupid of both Xerox and Apple to allow a competitor to tour their facilities in the way they did. What a disaster)
Isn't that like saying Spanish stole from Latin? Thats kinda different from one business stealing from another business.
>Ford stole the assembly line from Eli Whitney, who stole the idea from England
(edit)
But did he steal the idea of using an assembly line for the purposes of mass producing automobiles from Whitney? Thats a bit harder to relate to stealing an operating system that had the same code and the same interface, with different labels.
In this case, with Microsoft, Apple, Xerox, were talking about "stealing" something from another person, that would just so have happened to make that person the wealthiest person on Earth. That's a pretty big deal, bucko. (I will admit it was stupid of both Xerox and Apple to allow a competitor to tour their facilities in the way they did. What a disaster)
TomAiello 26
Pure communism doesn't work. Pure capitalism doesn't work. Pure socialism doesn't work.
How do you know? Has pure anything ever actually been created and used?
FWIW, I do think that pure communism works very well--in extremely small groups, like nuclear families.
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jcd11235 0
Right. But Apple, who
stolebought the concepts for their interface from Xerox PARC, is often supported by those same people, because they're smaller, cooler and are sorta edgy.
Let's reflect history accurately, shall we? Apple gave Xerox quite a lot of Apple stock to examine and use the GUI concept.
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mnealtx 0
As I recall, didn't they try (and then move away from) this in the original Plymouth colony?
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TomAiello 26
As I recall, didn't they try (and then move away from) this in the original Plymouth colony?
I don't know. The largest groups I know of using real communism in practice are Israeli Kibbutzes (I'm sure I spelled that wrong). I've also seen some anthropological studies of Andean villages set up that way, and apparently functional.
The most accessible example for a modern American audience is the traditional nuclear family. The family unit typically shares resources and makes decisions in a very communistic fashion, with a smaller group (the parents) making decisions in the best interest of the whole group (and the children). Sometimes it's dysfunctional, of course, but on the whole it seems to work pretty well. At least, so far my kids have failed in their efforts to reform the system through revolution.
Basically, you need a small enough group that everyone knows everyone else, and a situation and/or cultural ethic that impresses the primary need for group survival/prosperity upon the people.
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Nope.
>Aaand it was founded by a thief. Shit. Microsoft must not be a very good
>example of how businesses can be responsible on their own.
I didn't claim they were responsible, just that they were successful and had made a shitload of money for a lot of shareholders.
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