rushmc 23 #1 August 3, 2009 The one that says that Public Gov Run Health Care will not take away your private insurance? Or this one? http://www.breitbart.tv/uncovered-video-obama-explains-how-his-health-care-plan-will-eliminate-private-insurance/"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #2 August 3, 2009 Well? Should I have made this a poll?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #3 August 3, 2009 Hey, whadda ya get when you cross Jesus Christ with Adolf Hitler? You get a regular guy who drinks Bud Lite. Peace out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #4 August 3, 2009 This guy is too slick. I have never believed a word he said. And, I still don't.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #5 August 3, 2009 I guess in this case, you get a liar."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #6 August 3, 2009 Quote This guy is too slick. I have never believed a word he said. And, I still don't. It is not what he says, it is how the teleprompter tells him to say it I guess"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 425 #7 August 3, 2009 Quote The one that says that Public Gov Run Health Care will not take away your private insurance? Or this one? http://www.breitbart.tv/uncovered-video-obama-explains-how-his-health-care-plan-will-eliminate-private-insurance/ OK, so now what will the "Obama doesn't want to get rid of private health care" crowd say? Hmmmmmmmmmmm?Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #8 August 3, 2009 Quote OK, so now what will the "Obama doesn't want to get rid of private health care" crowd say? Hmmmmmmmmmmm? Some version of "But it's (Bush's, Conservatives', Big Business's) fault." They've been a one trick pony since the election.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #9 August 3, 2009 I believe that there is the possibility that Obama may have entered this with too much intellectual and political idealism. Jimmy Carter did the same thing. He emerged from his one-term presidency a reluctant realist. Obama's positions switching? It may merely be the result of his and his advisors thinking that it could be done - like a young lieutenant. Then the E7 comes along and says, "Sir. I believe that you have failed to consider x, y and z." I just wonder if Obama ever says to himself, "Dubya was dealing with stuff about which I had no idea." I still think GWB fucked up mightily. And yet, Obama is as much a continuation and intensification of the spend mentality. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #10 August 3, 2009 QuoteI just wonder if Obama ever says to himself, "Dubya was dealing with stuff about which I had no idea." I am certain that every newly elected President thinks that sort of thing.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #11 August 3, 2009 QuoteI believe that there is the possibility that Obama may have entered this with too much intellectual and political idealism. Jimmy Carter did the same thing. He emerged from his one-term presidency a reluctant realist. Obama's positions switching? It may merely be the result of his and his advisors thinking that it could be done - like a young lieutenant. Then the E7 comes along and says, "Sir. I believe that you have failed to consider x, y and z." I just wonder if Obama ever says to himself, "Dubya was dealing with stuff about which I had no idea." I still think GWB fucked up mightily. And yet, Obama is as much a continuation and intensification of the spend mentality. GWB AND his Party members in Congress screwed the pooch. What we have now is the comeupance that is deserved. As for Obama and those like him, it is power for powers sake (and that includes most of those in Congress). And power for powers sake removes any chance of having a belief of any kind. By not having a principled position you can never remember what you have said in the past. When you have no priciples, and you cant remember what you said in the past, your statements (in todays world of cameras an the internet, WILL come back to haunt you. As it now has done here"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #12 August 3, 2009 QuoteQuoteI just wonder if Obama ever says to himself, "Dubya was dealing with stuff about which I had no idea." I am certain that every newly elected President thinks that sort of thing. I disagree. We have had principled leader in the past. One may not agree with the principle but that does not say they have no idea. There are a few things I can agree with Bush. Most all of his domestic policies were not among those. He had a stance on most everything and whether you agree with those positions on not, I feel you have to admire someone who pushes what they belive. Unless of course that belief is one of arrogance. THAT is what we have today. (not with just the POTUS)"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #13 August 3, 2009 QuoteThe one that says that Public Gov Run Health Care will not take away your private insurance? Or this one? http://www.breitbart.tv/uncovered-video-obama-explains-how-his-health-care-plan-will-eliminate-private-insurance/ Don't confuse what he would like with what he believes he can get through Congress and signed into law. We recently had a candidate who promised "No nation building" but look what he went and did.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #14 August 3, 2009 QuoteQuoteThe one that says that Public Gov Run Health Care will not take away your private insurance? Or this one? http://www.breitbart.tv/uncovered-video-obama-explains-how-his-health-care-plan-will-eliminate-private-insurance/ Don't confuse what he would like with what he believes he can get through Congress and signed into law. We recently had a candidate who promised "No nation building" but look what he went and did. Wasn't it the same fella's dad who promised "Read my lips; no new taxes", and then raised taxes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #15 August 4, 2009 QuoteQuoteI just wonder if Obama ever says to himself, "Dubya was dealing with stuff about which I had no idea." I am certain that every newly elected President thinks that sort of thing. Certainly a good bit. Clinton did, and got rebuked often early on. Bush did too, but with 9/11 he had unlimited political capital for at least a year or two. bottom line to me - we see the problems with a young but confident guy in charge. Too little experience. It's a shame the GOP insisted on putting up a guy that was experienced in matters completely unrelated to our key problems - McCain may know Congress, but he didn't know economics. A better candidate might have been able to escape the Bush drag. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #16 August 4, 2009 Quote Quote Quote The one that says that Public Gov Run Health Care will not take away your private insurance? Or this one? http://www.breitbart.tv/uncovered-video-obama-explains-how-his-health-care-plan-will-eliminate-private-insurance/ Don't confuse what he would like with what he believes he can get through Congress and signed into law. We recently had a candidate who promised "No nation building" but look what he went and did. Wasn't it the same fella's dad who promised "Read my lips; no new taxes", and then raised taxes? And as I state before, he got his ass voted out of office. I am hoping the trend continues. As for kallends tired old look back at the past (and I really dont know who his is this time but he is using the kallend ID) he is funny, cause he cant defend his savior much longer. And that has got to be pissing him off"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #17 August 4, 2009 And still no Obama supporter has stated which Obama they believe. Princle gets in the way of power for Obama. This in the end will bite him in the ass. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #18 August 4, 2009 Quote And still no Obama supporter has stated which Obama they believe. Princle gets in the way of power for Obama. This in the end will bite him in the ass. Those Princle bites are so nasty, but antihistamine stops the itching.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #19 August 4, 2009 Quote And still no Obama supporter has stated which Obama they believe. That's because it's an idiotic question; it's not even a question at all, just another juvenile bash in the form of an interrogatory. Quote Princle gets in the way of power Huh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #20 August 4, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThe one that says that Public Gov Run Health Care will not take away your private insurance? Or this one? http://www.breitbart.tv/uncovered-video-obama-explains-how-his-health-care-plan-will-eliminate-private-insurance/ Don't confuse what he would like with what he believes he can get through Congress and signed into law. We recently had a candidate who promised "No nation building" but look what he went and did. Wasn't it the same fella's dad who promised "Read my lips; no new taxes", and then raised taxes? And as I state before, he got his ass voted out of office. I am hoping the trend continues. ] Yet you steadfastly and repeatedly defended the "No nation building" nation builder right here on SC. Do I detect a hint of a double standard?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #21 August 4, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote The one that says that Public Gov Run Health Care will not take away your private insurance? Or this one? http://www.breitbart.tv/uncovered-video-obama-explains-how-his-health-care-plan-will-eliminate-private-insurance/ Don't confuse what he would like with what he believes he can get through Congress and signed into law. We recently had a candidate who promised "No nation building" but look what he went and did. Wasn't it the same fella's dad who promised "Read my lips; no new taxes", and then raised taxes? And as I state before, he got his ass voted out of office. I am hoping the trend continues. ] Yet you steadfastly and repeatedly defended the "No nation building" nation builder right here on SC. Do I detect a hint of a double standard? Hello? Is this the real kallend? Ok, for this reply, I will assume so (talk about double standard)To tell you straight, I would need to know what your definition of "nation building" is. Maybe you can clarify that for me to start with. Second, I still do not think that is what he was doing. If he was then all those Dem congress people were doing the same thing long before he came to office. But, I know this is a simple fact you (who ever you are) will ever acknowleg. If this is you then this is the kallend I know and love"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dks13827 3 #22 August 4, 2009 QuoteQuoteI just wonder if Obama ever says to himself, "Dubya was dealing with stuff about which I had no idea." I am certain that every newly elected President thinks that sort of thing. I dont really think that.... sure, there are secrets the new guy doesnt know about... but I would say that Reagan and Bush 41 likely were realistic in their expectations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #23 August 4, 2009 Quote Quote And still no Obama supporter has stated which Obama they believe. That's because it's an idiotic question; it's not even a question at all, just another juvenile bash in the form of an interrogatory. Quote Princle gets in the way of power Huh? Ya huh is in order. Did not proof read to even my poor level with that one but, you got my point"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #24 August 4, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThe one that says that Public Gov Run Health Care will not take away your private insurance? Or this one? http://www.breitbart.tv/uncovered-video-obama-explains-how-his-health-care-plan-will-eliminate-private-insurance/ Don't confuse what he would like with what he believes he can get through Congress and signed into law. We recently had a candidate who promised "No nation building" but look what he went and did. Wasn't it the same fella's dad who promised "Read my lips; no new taxes", and then raised taxes? And as I state before, he got his ass voted out of office. I am hoping the trend continues. ] Yet you steadfastly and repeatedly defended the "No nation building" nation builder right here on SC. Do I detect a hint of a double standard? Hello? Is this the real kallend? No, this is the plastic inflatable version. But even a plastic replica can detect a double standard - that you hold Obama to a different standard than you held Bush.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #25 August 4, 2009 Now I am really confused but, I will bet your friends like that version of you!and no, I hold them both to do what is best for this country. At least Bush got ONE thing right. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
