Two different Presidents with the US Marines.

[3331 137]

Watch it now before the Democrats have it removed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIHz5tevLAw

I Jumped with the guys who invented Skydiving.

[rushmc 23]

ouch

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billeisele 130]

leadership is earned not granted by voters

Give one city to the thugs so they can all live together. I vote for Chicago where they have strict gun laws.

[chasteh 0]

At what point did president Bush earn it, just out curiosity? Was it during his stellar military service in the Air National Guard? Or was it when president Bush was "Not a Pussy Democrat?" Does being a Pussy democrat make you not the kind of leader that gets you military support? What kind of leader, since you know, does get you widespread military support?

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Capt. Slog oughtta show up any minute now to save the day.....

"Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ."
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At what point did president Bush earn it, just out curiosity? Was it during his stellar military service in the Air National Guard? Or was it when president Bush was "Not a Pussy Democrat?" Does being a Pussy democrat make you not the kind of leader that gets you military support? What kind of leader, since you know, does get you widespread military support?

And now we have gone from "Clinton did it first" to "Bush didn't either".

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

[warpedskydiver 0]

MARINES know a lying peace of shit when they see one, and will merely show their contempt.

It is not like Barry is even acting like he has any love for the Military

Other than that Barry probably had snipers watching the unarmed MARINES

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And now we have gone from "Clinton did it first" to "Bush didn't either".

It's fairly embarassing that an AWOL draft dodger like Bush is being celebrated here, or that in his two campaigns his staff trashed actual veterans. Not sure which is worse - him or Clinton. Certainly neither come close to the elder Bush.

BTW, there's probably a bit of a difference in crowds in these videos - Bush went to Iraq, Obama went to North Carolina.

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And now we have gone from "Clinton did it first" to "Bush didn't either".

It's fairly embarassing that an AWOL draft dodger like Bush is being celebrated here, or that in his two campaigns his staff trashed actual veterans. Not sure which is worse - him or Clinton. Certainly neither come close to the elder Bush.

BTW, there's probably a bit of a difference in crowds in these videos - Bush went to Iraq, Obama went to North Carolina.

Strangely both were probably pushing their own sense of security.

[lost_n_confuzd 0]

Wow, I cannot believe the way that video (and thread author?) manipulates the entire situation.

1) Bush's entrance was in Iraq - a more laid back hoot-n-hollar atmosphere. Notice the desert cammies and *cough* spartanistic setting.

2) Obama's was in the states - professional and by the book, as it should be unless dictated otherwise. Notice the "stateside" green cammies.

Two totally different enviorments requiring two totally different entrances. Has nothing to do with either president's popularity.

And for the record, despite Bush's popularity in 2003 when the war first kicked off, he has lost mucho cool points by the service members since that time.

[councilman24 37]

Shouldn't they be at attention for the entrance of the CIC?
(I was never in the military, real question.)

Silly comparison.

Why am I commenting? Nothing here worth the effort.

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And now we have gone from "Clinton did it first" to "Bush didn't either".

It's fairly embarassing that an AWOL draft dodger like Bush is being celebrated here, or that in his two campaigns his staff trashed actual veterans. Not sure which is worse - him or Clinton. Certainly neither come close to the elder Bush.

BTW, there's probably a bit of a difference in crowds in these videos - Bush went to Iraq, Obama went to North Carolina.

Wrong President, kelp - While Bush may not have served in Vietnam, he *did* serve. Clinton is the one that dodged out to merrye olde England to avoid the draft.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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Im-ever-ho, the folks who should be the most annoyed (to put it diplomatically) by that video editing are members of the USMC. Footage of them is being used by “therealrevo.com“ to drive someone else’s political agenda.

The video was edited to intimate that members of the USMC are behaving partisanly. Rather than serving in order to support and defend the Constitution and the United States.

Other video showing the very warm (to also put it diplomatically) reception Pres Obama received at Camp Victory, like President Bush received on his visits to Iraq.

VR/Marg

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[kallend 2,028]

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Wrong President, kelp - While Bush may not have served in Vietnam, he *did* serve. Clinton is the one that dodged out to merrye olde England to avoid the draft.

I was under the impression he was awarded a merit based and highly competitive Rhodes Scholarship, something only a MORON would turn down.

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Wrong President, kelp - While Bush may not have served in Vietnam, he *did* serve. Clinton is the one that dodged out to merrye olde England to avoid the draft.

I was under the impression he was awarded a merit based and highly competitive Rhodes Scholarship, something only a MORON would turn down.

So you are saying it was ok for Clinton to avoid serving his country so he could fulfill his own self-serving goals, but it wasn't ok for Bush to do the same?
Only a MORON would hold any scholarship so high as to place it above serving their country.
Besides, the world has too many over-educated idiots as is.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

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Wrong President, kelp - While Bush may not have served in Vietnam, he *did* serve. Clinton is the one that dodged out to merrye olde England to avoid the draft.

I was under the impression he was awarded a merit based and highly competitive Rhodes Scholarship, something only a MORON would turn down.

Which has nothing to do with him dodging the draft. He was classed 1A before going to Oxford and was actually sent a draft notice while at Oxford. He was supposed to report for induction after completion of that term, but was able to finagle an illegal ROTC deferment before his report date, after much string-pulling.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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Wrong President, kelp - While Bush may not have served in Vietnam, he *did* serve. Clinton is the one that dodged out to merrye olde England to avoid the draft.

I was under the impression he was awarded a merit based and highly competitive Rhodes Scholarship, something only a MORON would turn down.

So you are saying it was ok for Clinton to avoid serving his country so he could fulfill his own self-serving goals, but it wasn't ok for Bush to do the same?
Only a MORON would hold any scholarship so high as to place it above serving their country.
Besides, the world has too many over-educated idiots as is.

Since the US government gave him a deferment to take the Rhodes, his actions were in fact sanctioned by the US govt. as being in the best interests of the country.

To the best of my knowledge, he didn't go AWOL either.

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Since the US government gave him a deferment to take the Rhodes, his actions were in fact sanctioned by the US govt. as being in the best interests of the country.

WRONG. He was classed 1A before Rhodes.

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To the best of my knowledge, he didn't go AWOL either.

And WRONG again - to be an ROTC cadet, he was SUPPOSED to be attending the Univ. of Arkansas.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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Why do you have to argue against the truth by introducing facts?

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

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Since the US government gave him a deferment to take the Rhodes, his actions were in fact sanctioned by the US govt. as being in the best interests of the country.

WRONG. He was classed 1A before Rhodes.

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To the best of my knowledge, he didn't go AWOL either.

And WRONG again - to be an ROTC cadet, he was SUPPOSED to be attending the Univ. of Arkansas.

At what point does continuing to argue about irrelevant events that occurred 40 yrs ago just get to be pathetic?

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Wrong President, kelp - While Bush may not have served in Vietnam, he *did* serve. Clinton is the one that dodged out to merrye olde England to avoid the draft.

I was under the impression he was awarded a merit based and highly competitive Rhodes Scholarship, something only a MORON would turn down.

Which has nothing to do with him dodging the draft. He was classed 1A before going to Oxford and was actually sent a draft notice while at Oxford. He was supposed to report for induction after completion of that term, but was able to finagle an illegal ROTC deferment before his report date, after much string-pulling and outright lying

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

[chasteh 0]

Well, you know, except we didn't in my post.

[Andy9o8 2]

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At what point does continuing to argue about irrelevant events that occurred 40 yrs ago just get to be pathetic?

On the first Wednesday in November.

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At what point does continuing to argue about irrelevant events that occurred 40 yrs ago just get to be pathetic?

On the first Wednesday in November.

Of what year?

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It's fairly embarassing that an AWOL draft dodger like Bush is being celebrated here, or that in his two campaigns his staff trashed actual veterans. Not sure which is worse - him or Clinton. Certainly neither come close to the elder Bush.

BTW, there's probably a bit of a difference in crowds in these videos - Bush went to Iraq, Obama went to North Carolina.

Wrong President, kelp - While Bush may not have served in Vietnam, he *did* serve. Clinton is the one that dodged out to merrye olde England to avoid the draft.

Sorry, he clearly dodged the draft to a cushy stateside 'duty' and didn't even honor that commitment.

Mind you, given that time, I don't blame either one of them for doing whatever they could to avoid going to Vietnam. But you don't get to trash just one of them for it - either you accept both, or you trash both. And if you accept them, you don't have the nerve to criticize the duty of Gore or Kerry.