chuckakers 425 #101 August 11, 2009 Quote>And you will of course provide the source for these "screen captures"? FOX News. I know they look like screen captures. My question was where did get them? Are you saying you actually got them straight off the television while watching Fox? Or did you copy them from some left wing website? (where they may have been altered from their original appearance) >> I know that won't matter one bit to you, of course. Got it in one. I don't even understand what you mean my that. And how bout that thread?????????Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #102 August 11, 2009 Quote>supporting a party by associating or not associating them to a party depending >upon wether or not the story is good or bad is part of the reason the liberal news >is failing. If you prefer outright lies to omissions, I guess that makes you . . . a republican. If I had said that, I'd be getting "my one warning".Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #103 August 11, 2009 QuoteQuote>supporting a party by associating or not associating them to a party depending >upon wether or not the story is good or bad is part of the reason the liberal news >is failing. If you prefer outright lies to omissions, I guess that makes you . . . a republican. If I had said that, I'd be getting "my one warning". Quotejust remember, just because the left does it doesn't man the right can. we are not allowed to have an opinion or be criticle unless the left says we can. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #104 August 11, 2009 QuoteQuote>supporting a party by associating or not associating them to a party depending >upon wether or not the story is good or bad is part of the reason the liberal news >is failing. If you prefer outright lies to omissions, I guess that makes you . . . a republican. If I had said that, I'd be getting "my one warning". You're right. Calling someone a republican is below the belt.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #105 August 11, 2009 Quote Quote Quote >supporting a party by associating or not associating them to a party depending >upon wether or not the story is good or bad is part of the reason the liberal news >is failing. If you prefer outright lies to omissions, I guess that makes you . . . a republican. If I had said that, I'd be getting "my one warning". You're right. Calling someone a republican is below the belt. Shouldn't it have capital "R" to be an insult?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #106 August 11, 2009 Oh, by the way, you say in your OP: Quote Let's put politics aside on this one. Bwahahahaa. That's rich. Yes, this is all so non-political. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #107 August 12, 2009 Quote Quote >supporting a party by associating or not associating them to a party depending >upon wether or not the story is good or bad is part of the reason the liberal news >is failing. If you prefer outright lies to omissions, I guess that makes you . . . a republican. If I had said that, I'd be getting "my one warning". Not sure about the warning but, it does indicates HE is a left swinging socialist liberal. (if that does not get me a warning nothing will)"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #108 August 12, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuote>supporting a party by associating or not associating them to a party depending >upon wether or not the story is good or bad is part of the reason the liberal news >is failing. If you prefer outright lies to omissions, I guess that makes you . . . a republican. If I had said that, I'd be getting "my one warning". You're right. Calling someone a republican is below the belt. No, it's not...even if the Libs *do* think of it as an insult. I was speaking more of the implication that someone would prefer to lie.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #109 August 12, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>supporting a party by associating or not associating them to a party depending >upon wether or not the story is good or bad is part of the reason the liberal news >is failing. If you prefer outright lies to omissions, I guess that makes you . . . a republican. If I had said that, I'd be getting "my one warning". You're right. Calling someone a republican is below the belt. No, it's not...even if the Libs *do* think of it as an insult. I was speaking more of the implication that someone would prefer to lie. Plenty of lies to go around in the healthcare debate. About 99% of them coming from the Republicans like Palin, Grassley and Gingrich If the proposals are really bad, there would be no need to lie about them.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #110 August 12, 2009 >I was speaking more of the implication that someone would prefer to lie. Many republicans do seem to prefer just that - and even seem to prefer a network that lies regularly to one that omits information they don't like. Which is fine with me. They can get their news from wherever they like. (Needless to say, I am sure not all republicans are like that - just some of the more visible and outspoken ones.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #111 August 12, 2009 Quotea network that lies regularly to one that omits information they don't like. Nice impartiality you have going on there, Bill.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #112 August 12, 2009 Quote>I was speaking more of the implication that someone would prefer to lie. Many republicans do seem to prefer just that - and even seem to prefer a network that lies regularly to one that omits information they don't like. Which is fine with me. They can get their news from wherever they like. (Needless to say, I am sure not all republicans are like that - just some of the more visible and outspoken ones.) QuoteIsn't omitting crucial information the same as lieing? not giving the information needed to make a sound judgement? or is that just how the left gets around the word lie? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #113 August 12, 2009 >Isn't omitting crucial information the same as lieing? If you consider "not mentioning party affiliation until late in the article" to be the same as lying, then yes - FOX will be a good source of information for you. Personally, I see mentioning accurate facts later in the article rather than sooner as more honest than lying about someone. But that's just me; you may prefer the lie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #114 August 12, 2009 I was watching cnn the other night and was very dissapointed in them. they don't seem to want to report anything that would upset the Obama fans. The death toll in afganistan is skyrocketing and nothing said, when bush was potus they reported almost every death. they talked bad about the right being organized for the town hall meetings when in fact the left is paying people to go to town halls. (craigs list advertises jobs in several cities including New York and chicago, getting paid $10-15 and hour to go support Obama's health care). The signs that are professionally printed are the ones held by the left. We need all the information presented and let us make the choices but that is not going to happen. So your line about getting my news from Fox tells me that if you don't watch Fox you are not getting all the information you need to make a wise choice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #115 August 12, 2009 >I was watching cnn the other night and was very dissapointed in them. I am as well. They're "infotainment," not real news. Good for playing in the background of a coffee shop, or watching to find out what's new with Britney Spears, Sarah Palin or Michael Jackson (who, as they regularly point out, is still dead.) >So your line about getting my news from Fox tells me that if you don't >watch Fox you are not getting all the information you need to make a >wise choice. Studies have proven that people who watch FOX have more misconceptions about the world. I'd prefer not to be one of those people. You, of course, can watch whatever you like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #116 August 12, 2009 Quote >I was watching cnn the other night and was very dissapointed in them. I am as well. They're "infotainment," not real news. Good for playing in the background of a coffee shop, or watching to find out what's new with Britney Spears, Sarah Palin or Michael Jackson (who, as they regularly point out, is still dead.) >So your line about getting my news from Fox tells me that if you don't >watch Fox you are not getting all the information you need to make a >wise choice. Studies have proven that people who watch FOX have more misconceptions about the world. I'd prefer not to be one of those people. You, of course, can watch whatever you like. I would like to see that study. Along with who commisined it and the questions asked but to you sir, you have state only one place you get your news from. The BBC. You fail to answer what news and info orgs you get your opinions from! ah, your news from"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #117 August 12, 2009 >I would like to see that study. http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Iraq/IraqMedia_Oct03/IraqMedia_Oct03_pr.pdf > Along with who commisined it . . . The University of Maryland. >and the questions asked. It's all available there. (Although since you are an avid defender of FOX, it wouldn't surprise me if you think the answers ARE really wrong!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #118 August 12, 2009 Quote>I would like to see that study. http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Iraq/IraqMedia_Oct03/IraqMedia_Oct03_pr.pdf > Along with who commisined it . . . The University of Maryland. >and the questions asked. It's all available there. (Although since you are an avid defender of FOX, it wouldn't surprise me if you think the answers ARE really wrong!) Snotty comments aside, I will look at it. I enjoy watching those like you who condem sources as apposed to the content (most of the time). And it is standard operating practice to attack that which is a threat to the left. Sara Palin is a better example. But I will look at it. Thanks"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #119 August 12, 2009 >I enjoy watching those like you who condem sources as apposed to the >content (most of the time). I have no problem with FOX as a TV channel, or with Murdoch as an owner. "The Dollhouse" is pretty good. As I've said several times, if you like their news shows (and the deceptions they convey) watch them. I don't like their content. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #120 August 12, 2009 Quote>I enjoy watching those like you who condem sources as apposed to the >content (most of the time). I have no problem with FOX as a TV channel, or with Murdoch as an owner. "The Dollhouse" is pretty good. As I've said several times, if you like their news shows (and the deceptions they convey) watch them. I don't like their content. Yes, yes, I know you like to speak to the "deceptions" of Fox. I don't like the content of CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, NPR and others. But I read most of their sites. I no longer watch, with any regularity, ANY TV news show. I would like to know a context under which you view those deceptions. So, do you get honest reporting and info somewhere? If so, from where/who? The ONLY one you have admitted to here is the BBC. There must be more."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #121 August 12, 2009 >So, do you get honest reporting and info somewhere? If so, from >where/who? From literally hundreds of sources. Name a topic and I'll tell you where I get information. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #122 August 12, 2009 Quote>So, do you get honest reporting and info somewhere? If so, from >where/who? From literally hundreds of sources. Name a topic and I'll tell you where I get information. National and world political news"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,452 #123 August 12, 2009 Quote National and world political news Speaker's Corner Well, that, the local newspaper, the radio (NPR), and The Economist. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #124 August 12, 2009 >National and world political news That's pretty broad! I'll go with one story, the healthcare debate. Yahoo News/AP League of Women Voters website NPR website The Economist Cato Institute website www.opencongress.org (original bill) (also available at docs.house.gov) BBC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #125 August 13, 2009 Yahoo news on health care. Using search words "health care" Page 1 Links provided (much like NewsMax and Drudge do) CNN 4 links USA Today 2 links AP 2 links 2 Links I guess these are the standard bearers of open minded on slanted reporting huhLeague of Women Voters a search of the library there topic searched "health care" http://www.lwv.org/AM/Template.cfm?Template=/Search/SearchDisplay.cfm A Google provided NPR search provided by Google http://www.google.com/search?q=health+care&btnGNS=Search+npr.org&oi=navquery_searchbox&sa=X&as_sitesearch=npr.org&hl=en An Google provided Economist search, same words http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2009/07/health_care_and_equality.cfm some what more fair and a site I will return to Cato Institute Google provided, same words http://www.google.com/search?q=health+care&btnGNS=Search+cato.org&oi=navquery_searchbox&sa=X&as_sitesearch=cato.org&hl=en Been here and I will be back again Bill, have you tried this site? http://search.heritage.org/search?ie=&site=default_collection&output=xml_no_dtd&client=heritageorg&lr=&filter=0&proxystylesheet=heritageorg&getfields=%252A&restrict=Heritage&q=health+care&x=31&y=9 In context I have a better feeling for your posts meanings So should everyone else "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
