Healthcare Industry is Playing the American People Like a Fiddle

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CIGNA damn well should be villainized. I had to put up with them for 8 years - the bastards.

I'm sure there was nothing preventing you from being a private patient.

ANYBODY or company that has or gets more money than him (and his inflatable double) are evil.

Just another case of sombody worrying about somebody or something getting more than he gets

the big green monster raises its head yet again......

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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The alternative is the plan espoused by John Rich, where people would think "hmm, I blew out my knee. I'll go to the ER and just not pay." Guess what that does to hospitals.

There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.

The effect of EMTALA. The Federal Law primarily responsible for "this mess." Congress just didn't fund it.

This solution did not exist until 1986, bill.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

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You mean the giant multi billion dollar industry would try to spread propaganda to save their industry even if the other option is better for their customers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


NO WAY.

I think what I find surprising is the amount of retarded people we have who fight for the right to get fucked again. I wouldn’t care so much if it didn’t effect all of us, but it does.


If I see another dumbfuck crying at a TH meeting about losing her America I am going to puke.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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You mean the giant multi billion dollar industry would try to spread propaganda to save their industry even if the other option is better for their customers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


NO WAY.

I think what I find surprising is the amount of retarded people we have who fight for the right to get fucked again. I wouldn?t care so much if it didn?t effect all of us, but it does.


If I see another dumbfuck crying at a TH meeting about losing her America I am going to puke.

What about the multi-trillion dollar US government that already has over a 50% share in hethcare spending?

I compare it to Union Carbide going after Dow chemical for harming the environment in Bhopal. Sure, Dow might not be the best but you look at the big dogs.

And since the governments (fed, state, local) already puts more money into healthcare than all the insurance companies put together I think blaming insurance cpmpanies is deflection.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

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>The effect of EMTALA. The Federal Law primarily responsible for "this mess."

Right. Sounds like it's time to fix the mess. I mean, the JohnRich plan does get you medical care, but bankrupts hospitals and doctors; there's probably a better way to deal with that.

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US healthcare expenditure - the biggest waste of money in the world.

I don’t claim to be any kind of an expert on the US healthcare debate. Far from it. But what I do know is that in its totality, healthcare spending in the US is one of the most inefficient uses of money anywhere in the world. Despite the fact that well over half this spending is private, it fails to obey the first principles of efficient market theory. US healthcare makes even the notorious inefficiences of state spending in the UK look tolerable by comparison.

America spends vastly more per head of population and as a percentage of GDP on healthcare than any other nation in the world (see accompanying bar chart), yet this fails to result in notably better life expectancy or quality of life for the US as a whole than other advanced nations that spend far less. Nor is this lack of value for money accounted for by the averaging down effect caused by the sizeable, uninsured minority that enjoys only sub-standard healthcare. American medicine, knowing that in the end it is the insurer that picks up the tab, has a tendency to apply the most extraordinary array of safety first, mainly unnecessary but hugely costly, tests and procedures to almost any condition. This enriches the medical profession and its support industries but is steadily bankrupting the nation and its corporations.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jeremywarner/100000571/us-healthcare-expenditure-the-biggest-waste-of-money-in-the-world/

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US healthcare expenditure - the biggest waste of money in the world.

I don’t claim to be any kind of an expert on the US healthcare debate. Far from it. But what I do know is that in its totality, healthcare spending in the US is one of the most inefficient uses of money anywhere in the world. Despite the fact that well over half this spending is private, it fails to obey the first principles of efficient market theory. US healthcare makes even the notorious inefficiences of state spending in the UK look tolerable by comparison.

America spends vastly more per head of population and as a percentage of GDP on healthcare than any other nation in the world (see accompanying bar chart), yet this fails to result in notably better life expectancy or quality of life for the US as a whole than other advanced nations that spend far less. Nor is this lack of value for money accounted for by the averaging down effect caused by the sizeable, uninsured minority that enjoys only sub-standard healthcare. American medicine, knowing that in the end it is the insurer that picks up the tab, has a tendency to apply the most extraordinary array of safety first, mainly unnecessary but hugely costly, tests and procedures to almost any condition. This enriches the medical profession and its support industries but is steadily bankrupting the nation and its corporations.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jeremywarner/100000571/us-healthcare-expenditure-the-biggest-waste-of-money-in-the-world/

For those unfamiliar, the Telegraph is a right wing conservative national daily newspaper in the UK.

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US healthcare expenditure - the biggest waste of money in the world.

I don’t claim to be any kind of an expert on the US healthcare debate. Far from it. But what I do know is that in its totality, healthcare spending in the US is one of the most inefficient uses of money anywhere in the world. Despite the fact that well over half this spending is private, it fails to obey the first principles of efficient market theory. US healthcare makes even the notorious inefficiences of state spending in the UK look tolerable by comparison.

America spends vastly more per head of population and as a percentage of GDP on healthcare than any other nation in the world (see accompanying bar chart), yet this fails to result in notably better life expectancy or quality of life for the US as a whole than other advanced nations that spend far less. Nor is this lack of value for money accounted for by the averaging down effect caused by the sizeable, uninsured minority that enjoys only sub-standard healthcare. American medicine, knowing that in the end it is the insurer that picks up the tab, has a tendency to apply the most extraordinary array of safety first, mainly unnecessary but hugely costly, tests and procedures to almost any condition. This enriches the medical profession and its support industries but is steadily bankrupting the nation and its corporations.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jeremywarner/100000571/us-healthcare-expenditure-the-biggest-waste-of-money-in-the-world/

For those unfamiliar, the Telegraph is a right wing conservative national daily newspaper in the UK.

This paper has some good points but, you and it chose to ignore the reasons. That is what pegged the meter oh twin kallends.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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US healthcare expenditure - the biggest waste of money in the world.

I don’t claim to be any kind of an expert on the US healthcare debate. Far from it. But what I do know is that in its totality, healthcare spending in the US is one of the most inefficient uses of money anywhere in the world. Despite the fact that well over half this spending is private, it fails to obey the first principles of efficient market theory. US healthcare makes even the notorious inefficiences of state spending in the UK look tolerable by comparison.

America spends vastly more per head of population and as a percentage of GDP on healthcare than any other nation in the world (see accompanying bar chart), yet this fails to result in notably better life expectancy or quality of life for the US as a whole than other advanced nations that spend far less. Nor is this lack of value for money accounted for by the averaging down effect caused by the sizeable, uninsured minority that enjoys only sub-standard healthcare. American medicine, knowing that in the end it is the insurer that picks up the tab, has a tendency to apply the most extraordinary array of safety first, mainly unnecessary but hugely costly, tests and procedures to almost any condition. This enriches the medical profession and its support industries but is steadily bankrupting the nation and its corporations.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jeremywarner/100000571/us-healthcare-expenditure-the-biggest-waste-of-money-in-the-world/

For those unfamiliar, the Telegraph is a right wing conservative national daily newspaper in the UK.

This paper has some good points but not when it disagrees with rushmc's preconceived ideas.

Fixed it for you.

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US healthcare expenditure - the biggest waste of money in the world.

I don’t claim to be any kind of an expert on the US healthcare debate. Far from it. But what I do know is that in its totality, healthcare spending in the US is one of the most inefficient uses of money anywhere in the world. Despite the fact that well over half this spending is private, it fails to obey the first principles of efficient market theory. US healthcare makes even the notorious inefficiences of state spending in the UK look tolerable by comparison.

America spends vastly more per head of population and as a percentage of GDP on healthcare than any other nation in the world (see accompanying bar chart), yet this fails to result in notably better life expectancy or quality of life for the US as a whole than other advanced nations that spend far less. Nor is this lack of value for money accounted for by the averaging down effect caused by the sizeable, uninsured minority that enjoys only sub-standard healthcare. American medicine, knowing that in the end it is the insurer that picks up the tab, has a tendency to apply the most extraordinary array of safety first, mainly unnecessary but hugely costly, tests and procedures to almost any condition. This enriches the medical profession and its support industries but is steadily bankrupting the nation and its corporations.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jeremywarner/100000571/us-healthcare-expenditure-the-biggest-waste-of-money-in-the-world/

For those unfamiliar, the Telegraph is a right wing conservative national daily newspaper in the UK.

This paper has some good points but not when it disagrees with rushmc's preconceived ideas.

Fixed it for you.

You wish

You yet again avoid the topic and the reasons. Expected

So sir, why do you think so many tests are run?

I am sure you will not answer unles it is to attack the medical industry

You and your inflatable twin are both so predictable

Or would "alter ego" be a better way to define it?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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US healthcare expenditure - the biggest waste of money in the world.

I don’t claim to be any kind of an expert on the US healthcare debate. Far from it. But what I do know is that in its totality, healthcare spending in the US is one of the most inefficient uses of money anywhere in the world. Despite the fact that well over half this spending is private, it fails to obey the first principles of efficient market theory. US healthcare makes even the notorious inefficiences of state spending in the UK look tolerable by comparison.

America spends vastly more per head of population and as a percentage of GDP on healthcare than any other nation in the world (see accompanying bar chart), yet this fails to result in notably better life expectancy or quality of life for the US as a whole than other advanced nations that spend far less. Nor is this lack of value for money accounted for by the averaging down effect caused by the sizeable, uninsured minority that enjoys only sub-standard healthcare. American medicine, knowing that in the end it is the insurer that picks up the tab, has a tendency to apply the most extraordinary array of safety first, mainly unnecessary but hugely costly, tests and procedures to almost any condition. This enriches the medical profession and its support industries but is steadily bankrupting the nation and its corporations.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jeremywarner/100000571/us-healthcare-expenditure-the-biggest-waste-of-money-in-the-world/

For those unfamiliar, the Telegraph is a right wing conservative national daily newspaper in the UK.

This paper has some good points but not when it disagrees with rushmc's preconceived ideas.

Fixed it for you.

You wish

You yet again avoid the topic and the reasons. Expected

So sir, why do you think so many tests are run?

I am sure you will not answer unles it is to attack the medical industry

You and your inflatable twin are both so predictable

Or would "alter ego" be a better way to define it?

don't let kallend deceive you into thinking i'm him
(i am in fact spartacus)

stay away from moving propellers - they bite
blue skies from thai sky adventures
good solid response-provoking keyboarding

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US healthcare expenditure - the biggest waste of money in the world.

I don’t claim to be any kind of an expert on the US healthcare debate. Far from it. But what I do know is that in its totality, healthcare spending in the US is one of the most inefficient uses of money anywhere in the world. Despite the fact that well over half this spending is private, it fails to obey the first principles of efficient market theory. US healthcare makes even the notorious inefficiences of state spending in the UK look tolerable by comparison.

America spends vastly more per head of population and as a percentage of GDP on healthcare than any other nation in the world (see accompanying bar chart), yet this fails to result in notably better life expectancy or quality of life for the US as a whole than other advanced nations that spend far less. Nor is this lack of value for money accounted for by the averaging down effect caused by the sizeable, uninsured minority that enjoys only sub-standard healthcare. American medicine, knowing that in the end it is the insurer that picks up the tab, has a tendency to apply the most extraordinary array of safety first, mainly unnecessary but hugely costly, tests and procedures to almost any condition. This enriches the medical profession and its support industries but is steadily bankrupting the nation and its corporations.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jeremywarner/100000571/us-healthcare-expenditure-the-biggest-waste-of-money-in-the-world/

For those unfamiliar, the Telegraph is a right wing conservative national daily newspaper in the UK.

This paper has some good points but not when it disagrees with rushmc's preconceived ideas.

Fixed it for you.

You wish

You yet again avoid the topic and the reasons. Expected

So sir, why do you think so many tests are run?

I am sure you will not answer unles it is to attack the medical industry

You and your inflatable twin are both so predictable

Or would "alter ego" be a better way to define it?

don't let kallend deceive you into thinking i'm him
(i am in fact spartacus)

No problem, you two just act alike

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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You and your inflatable twin are both so predictable

Or would "alter ego" be a better way to define it?

don't let kallend deceive you into thinking i'm him
(i am in fact spartacus)

No problem, you two just act alike

Don't laugh, you're next.

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You and your inflatable twin are both so predictable

Or would "alter ego" be a better way to define it?

don't let kallend deceive you into thinking i'm him
(i am in fact spartacus)

No problem, you two just act alike

Don't laugh, you're next.

Resistance is futile.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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US healthcare expenditure - the biggest waste of money in the world.

I don’t claim to be any kind of an expert on the US healthcare debate. Far from it. But what I do know is that in its totality, healthcare spending in the US is one of the most inefficient uses of money anywhere in the world. Despite the fact that well over half this spending is private, it fails to obey the first principles of efficient market theory. US healthcare makes even the notorious inefficiences of state spending in the UK look tolerable by comparison.

America spends vastly more per head of population and as a percentage of GDP on healthcare than any other nation in the world (see accompanying bar chart), yet this fails to result in notably better life expectancy or quality of life for the US as a whole than other advanced nations that spend far less. Nor is this lack of value for money accounted for by the averaging down effect caused by the sizeable, uninsured minority that enjoys only sub-standard healthcare. American medicine, knowing that in the end it is the insurer that picks up the tab, has a tendency to apply the most extraordinary array of safety first, mainly unnecessary but hugely costly, tests and procedures to almost any condition. This enriches the medical profession and its support industries but is steadily bankrupting the nation and its corporations.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jeremywarner/100000571/us-healthcare-expenditure-the-biggest-waste-of-money-in-the-world/

I do say I have to agree with this post. In the military we learn combat first aid, where lawyers are not involved. After going through this course many times, I have seen the diffrence in medical practices between combat first aid and how the hospitals work.

In a typical state-side response, the doctors have to treat the lawyers first. This means a whole lot of unnecessary procedures like a neck brace, etc, when none is called for.

Any medical bill that goes through is a complete waste of time unless it includes 2 key issues:
1. Tort reform
2. The doctor shortage

Since tort reform might put a few lawyers out of business, figure the odds of that happening. Unnecessary procedures and medical malpractice insurance are killing our heath system. Also think about the cost savings of not paying doctors over time and double time. It's a lot of money, especially when most doctors work over 80 hours a week, unless they are a part of a private practice.

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US healthcare expenditure - the biggest waste of money in the world.

I don’t claim to be any kind of an expert on the US healthcare debate. Far from it. But what I do know is that in its totality, healthcare spending in the US is one of the most inefficient uses of money anywhere in the world. Despite the fact that well over half this spending is private, it fails to obey the first principles of efficient market theory. US healthcare makes even the notorious inefficiences of state spending in the UK look tolerable by comparison.

America spends vastly more per head of population and as a percentage of GDP on healthcare than any other nation in the world (see accompanying bar chart), yet this fails to result in notably better life expectancy or quality of life for the US as a whole than other advanced nations that spend far less. Nor is this lack of value for money accounted for by the averaging down effect caused by the sizeable, uninsured minority that enjoys only sub-standard healthcare. American medicine, knowing that in the end it is the insurer that picks up the tab, has a tendency to apply the most extraordinary array of safety first, mainly unnecessary but hugely costly, tests and procedures to almost any condition. This enriches the medical profession and its support industries but is steadily bankrupting the nation and its corporations.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jeremywarner/100000571/us-healthcare-expenditure-the-biggest-waste-of-money-in-the-world/

I do say I have to agree with this post. In the military we learn combat first aid, where lawyers are not involved. After going through this course many times, I have seen the diffrence in medical practices between combat first aid and how the hospitals work.

In a typical state-side response, the doctors have to treat the lawyers first. This means a whole lot of unnecessary procedures like a neck brace, etc, when none is called for.

Any medical bill that goes through is a complete waste of time unless it includes 2 key issues:
1. Tort reform
2. The doctor shortage

Since tort reform might put a few lawyers out of business, figure the odds of that happening. Unnecessary procedures and medical malpractice insurance are killing our heath system. Also think about the cost savings of not paying doctors over time and double time. It's a lot of money, especially when most doctors work over 80 hours a week, unless they are a part of a private practice.

We have a winner. Nice post

and kallend and his inflable double know it too, but he would not respond because is goes against his views.....

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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US healthcare expenditure - the biggest waste of money in the world.

I don’t claim to be any kind of an expert on the US healthcare debate. Far from it. But what I do know is that in its totality, healthcare spending in the US is one of the most inefficient uses of money anywhere in the world. Despite the fact that well over half this spending is private, it fails to obey the first principles of efficient market theory. US healthcare makes even the notorious inefficiences of state spending in the UK look tolerable by comparison.

America spends vastly more per head of population and as a percentage of GDP on healthcare than any other nation in the world (see accompanying bar chart), yet this fails to result in notably better life expectancy or quality of life for the US as a whole than other advanced nations that spend far less. Nor is this lack of value for money accounted for by the averaging down effect caused by the sizeable, uninsured minority that enjoys only sub-standard healthcare. American medicine, knowing that in the end it is the insurer that picks up the tab, has a tendency to apply the most extraordinary array of safety first, mainly unnecessary but hugely costly, tests and procedures to almost any condition. This enriches the medical profession and its support industries but is steadily bankrupting the nation and its corporations.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jeremywarner/100000571/us-healthcare-expenditure-the-biggest-waste-of-money-in-the-world/

I do say I have to agree with this post. In the military we learn combat first aid, where lawyers are not involved. After going through this course many times, I have seen the diffrence in medical practices between combat first aid and how the hospitals work.

In a typical state-side response, the doctors have to treat the lawyers first. This means a whole lot of unnecessary procedures like a neck brace, etc, when none is called for.

Any medical bill that goes through is a complete waste of time unless it includes 2 key issues:
1. Tort reform
2. The doctor shortage

Since tort reform might put a few lawyers out of business, figure the odds of that happening. Unnecessary procedures and medical malpractice insurance are killing our heath system. Also think about the cost savings of not paying doctors over time and double time. It's a lot of money, especially when most doctors work over 80 hours a week, unless they are a part of a private practice.

We have a winner. Nice post

and kallend and his inflable double know it too, but he would not respond because is goes against his views.....

Wrong! I am fully in favor of tort reform.

(And so am I).

Me too.

And me.

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US healthcare expenditure - the biggest waste of money in the world.

I don’t claim to be any kind of an expert on the US healthcare debate. Far from it. But what I do know is that in its totality, healthcare spending in the US is one of the most inefficient uses of money anywhere in the world. Despite the fact that well over half this spending is private, it fails to obey the first principles of efficient market theory. US healthcare makes even the notorious inefficiences of state spending in the UK look tolerable by comparison.

America spends vastly more per head of population and as a percentage of GDP on healthcare than any other nation in the world (see accompanying bar chart), yet this fails to result in notably better life expectancy or quality of life for the US as a whole than other advanced nations that spend far less. Nor is this lack of value for money accounted for by the averaging down effect caused by the sizeable, uninsured minority that enjoys only sub-standard healthcare. American medicine, knowing that in the end it is the insurer that picks up the tab, has a tendency to apply the most extraordinary array of safety first, mainly unnecessary but hugely costly, tests and procedures to almost any condition. This enriches the medical profession and its support industries but is steadily bankrupting the nation and its corporations.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jeremywarner/100000571/us-healthcare-expenditure-the-biggest-waste-of-money-in-the-world/

I do say I have to agree with this post. In the military we learn combat first aid, where lawyers are not involved. After going through this course many times, I have seen the diffrence in medical practices between combat first aid and how the hospitals work.

In a typical state-side response, the doctors have to treat the lawyers first. This means a whole lot of unnecessary procedures like a neck brace, etc, when none is called for.

Any medical bill that goes through is a complete waste of time unless it includes 2 key issues:
1. Tort reform
2. The doctor shortage

Since tort reform might put a few lawyers out of business, figure the odds of that happening. Unnecessary procedures and medical malpractice insurance are killing our heath system. Also think about the cost savings of not paying doctors over time and double time. It's a lot of money, especially when most doctors work over 80 hours a week, unless they are a part of a private practice.

We have a winner. Nice post

and kallend and his inflable double know it too, but he would not respond because is goes against his views.....

Wrong! I am fully in favor of tort reform.

(And so am I).

Me too.

And me.

Well what do you know, finally a straight answer from both of you

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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I am fully in favor of tort reform.
(And so am I).
Me too.
And me.

But when the majority of people that write the laws are lawyers, how do you really think that's going to happen?

The "lawsuit" industry needs reform, but if you thought the insurance companies could lie, wait until you hear what the lawyers come up with.

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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

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I am fully in favor of tort reform.
(And so am I).
Me too.
And me.

But when the majority of people that write the laws are lawyers, how do you really think that's going to happen?

The "lawsuit" industry needs reform, but if you thought the insurance companies could lie, wait until you hear what the lawyers come up with.

Ever notice that in some regional accents "lawyer" and "liar" are homophones?

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Wrong! I am fully in favor of tort reform.

(And so am I).

Me too.

And me.

Well what do you know, finally a straight answer from both of you

Where did you learn to count?

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Wrong! I am fully in favor of tort reform.

(And so am I).

Me too.

And me.

Well what do you know, finally a straight answer from both of you

Where did you learn to count?

I just figured it was an echo of some kind used to cover yet another ID (or two) in this forum. Or many not.......

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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I am fully in favor of tort reform.
(And so am I).
Me too.
And me.

But when the majority of people that write the laws are lawyers, how do you really think that's going to happen?
The "lawsuit" industry needs reform, but if you thought the insurance companies could lie, wait until you hear what the lawyers come up with.

Ever notice that in some regional accents "lawyer" and "liar" are homophones?

And then Jim Carrey makes a movie.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

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Guys, I realize you both of you have raging hard ons for each other right now, but come on, give it a rest.

There are far better things to be upset about in the world than each other.

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The right-wingers and their corporate sponsors are protecting a medieval and violent health care system that kills more Americans each year than all the Americans who have died in the war on terror since 2001, including the 3,000 victims of 9/11, and the 5,000-plus U.S. service members who have died in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Every two months, the American health care industry is party to the slaughter of more Americans than al-Qaida managed to kill. Osama bin Laden must look at the Tea Baggers, FreedomWorks, health-industry billionaires like Rick Scott and the rest, and think, "If only I could kill as many Americans as they do! These guys are pros!"

They need to answer for this -- they need to explain why they are trying to protect a system that kills 22,000 Americans per year -- a figure based on a landmark report by the prestigious Institute of Medicine.

In fact, 22,000 is a conservative figure -- one of the authors of that report thinks the real figure in 2006 alone was 27,000 Americans killed from our health care system, perhaps as high as 40,000. But I'll stick to the conservative casualty number of 22,000, which is horrific enough.

If you believe in making health care available to every American, there's no reason to be skittish about talking about it on these terms. The right wing sure as hell isn't: in fact, its whole argument against health care reform is a hypothetical, future-tense dystopia of Americans murdered by their government, a fiction invented by hired marketing whizzes.

It's winning the "debate" based on a lie that hasn't even happened, whereas in this present-tense reality we all inhabit now, one American dies every 24 minutes because of this health care system.

It's time we protect ourselves and those we love, and that means stopping this slaughterhouse and saving Americans.

http://www.alternet.org/healthwellness/141941/if_right-wingers_got_their_way%2C_22%2C000_americans_will_continue_to_be_killed_by_lack_of_health_care_each_year/

Child's play when compared to the 37,000+ killed in vehicular accidents in 2008.

I say we overhaul transportation. We'll finance it by a special tax on the wealthy; enough of them to get the money we need, but not so many of them that they would constitute a significant voting block.

We'll have the government take over all the auto manufacturers, subsidize the purchase of cars, eliminate insurance as we know it,. . .

Hey, wait a minute!

Propoganda, or reality - YOU DECIDE.

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley