Carbon Dioxide irrelevant in climate debate says MIT Scientist

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From the article, 1st paragraph. Too many links and supporting reviewed papers to link
This should heat up, ah, no, cool off the debate

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-7715-Portland-Civil-Rights-Examiner~y2009m8d18-Carbon-Dioxide-irrelevant-in-climate-debate-says-MIT-Scientist

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In a study sure to ruffle the feathers of the Global Warming cabal, Professor Richard Lindzen of MIT has published a paper which proves that IPCC models are overstating by 6 times, the relevance of CO2 in Earth’s Atmosphere. Dr. Lindzen has found that heat is radiated out in to space at a far higher rate than any modeling system to date can account for.

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"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Would this be the same guy that gets $2,500 a DAY to consult for the coal and oil companies?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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Would this be the same guy that gets $2,500 a DAY to consult for the coal and oil companies?

First post attackd the source

Cant refute the DATA??????

Glad your tail got cropped during the same trip

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Now I know why!! Your jelous you are not as widely quoted and known!!

Well, you got to work HARDER AND SMARTER sir!

Oh your sooooooooooo jellous

http://www-eaps.mit.edu/faculty/lindzen.htm

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Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology, Department of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences

Professor Lindzen is a dynamical meteorologist with interests in the broad topics of climate, planetary waves, monsoon meteorology, planetary atmospheres, and hydrodynamic instability. His research involves studies of the role of the tropics in mid-latitude weather and global heat transport, the moisture budget and its role in global change, the origins of ice ages, seasonal effects in atmospheric transport, stratospheric waves, and the observational determination of climate sensitivity. He has made major contributions to the development of the current theory for the Hadley Circulation, which dominates the atmospheric transport of heat and momentum from the tropics to higher latitudes, and has advanced the understanding of the role of small scale gravity waves in producing the reversal of global temperature gradients at the mesopause, and provided accepted explanations for atmospheric tides and the quasi-biennial oscillation of the tropical stratosphere. He pioneered the study of how ozone photochemistry, radiative transfer and dynamics interact with each other. He is currently studying what determines the pole to equator temperature difference, the nonlinear equilibration of baroclinic instability and the contribution of such instabilities to global heat transport. He has also been developing a new approach to air-sea interaction in the tropics, and is actively involved in parameterizing the role of cumulus convection in heating and drying the atmosphere and in generating upper level cirrus clouds. He has developed models for the Earth's climate with specific concern for the stability of the ice caps, the sensitivity to increases in CO2, the origin of the 100,000 year cycle in glaciation, and the maintenance of regional variations in climate. Prof. Lindzen is a recipient of the AMS's Meisinger, and Charney Awards, the AGU's Macelwane Medal, and the Leo Huss Walin Prize. He is a member of the National Academy of Sciences, and the Norwegian Academy of Sciences and Letters, and a fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, the American Association for the Advancement of Sciences, the American Geophysical Union and the American Meteorological Society. He is a corresponding member of the NAS Committee on Human Rights, and has been a member of the NRC Board on Atmospheric Sciences and Climate and the Council of the AMS. He has also been a consultant to the Global Modeling and Simulation Group at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, and a Distinguished Visiting Scientist at California Institute of Technology's Jet Propulsion Laboratory. (Ph.D., '64, S.M., '61, A.B., '60, Harvard University)

PUBLICATIONS

1. (1965) On the asymmetric diurnal tide. Pure & Appl. Geophys., 62, 142-147.

2. R.S. Lindzen and R.M. Goody (1965). Radiative and photochemical processes in mesospheric dynamics: Part I. Models for radiative and photochemical processes. J. Atmos. Sci., 22, 341-348. [pdf]

3. (1965) The radiative-photochemical response of the mesosphere to fluctuations in radiation. J. Atmos. Sci., 22, 469-478. [pdf]

4. (1966) Radiative and photochemical processes in mesospheric dynamics: Part II. Vertical propagation of long period disturbances at the equator. J. Atmos. Sci., 23, 334-343. [pdf]

5. (1966) Radiative and photochemical processes in mesospheric dynamics. Part III. Stability of a zonal vortex at midlatitudes to axially symmetric disturbances. J. Atmos. Sci., 23, 344-349. [pdf]

6. (1966) Radiative and photochemical processes in mesospheric dynamics. Part IV. Stability of a zonal vortex at midlatitudes to baroclinic waves. J. Atmos. Sci., 23, 350-359. [pdf]

7. (1966) On the theory of the diurnal tide. Mon. Wea. Rev., 94, 295-301. [pdf]

8. (1966) Crude estimate for the zonal velocity associated with the diurnal temperature oscillation in the thermosphere. J. Geophys. Res., 71, 865-870.

9. (1966) On the relation of wave behavior to source strength and distribution in a propagating medium. J. Atmos. Sci., 23, 630-632. [pdf]

10. (1966) Turbulent convection -- Malkus theory. Proc. NCAR Thermal Convection Colloquium. NCAR Tech. Note 24.

11. (1967) Thermally driven diurnal tide in the atmosphere. Q.J. Roy. Met. Soc., 93, 18-42.

12. (1967) Diurnal velocity oscillation in the thermosphere -- reconsidered. J. Geophys. Res., 72, 1591-1598.

13. (1967) On the consistency of thermistor measurements of upper air temperatures. J. Atmos. Sci., 24, 317-318. [pdf]

14. (1967) Mesosphere. In The Encyclopedia of Atmospheric Sciences and Astrogeology, R. Fairbridge, ed. Reinhold Pub. Co., New York, pp 556-559.

15. R.S. Lindzen and D.J. McKenzie (1967). Tidal theory with Newtonian cooling. Pure & Appl. Geophys., 64, 90-96.

16. (1967) Physical processes in the mesosphere. Proc. IAMAP Moscow Meeting on Dynamics of Large Scale Atmospheric Processes, A.S. Monin, ed.

17. (1967) Lunar diurnal atmospheric tide. Nature, 213, 1260-1261.

18. (1967) Planetary waves on beta planes. Mon. Wea. Rev., 95, 441-451. [pdf]

19. (1968) The application of classical atmospheric tidal theory. Proc. Roy. Soc., A, 303, 299-316.

20. (1968) Lower atmospheric energy sources for the upper atmosphere. Met. Mono., 9, 37-46.

21. (1968) Rossby waves with negative equivalent depths -- comments on a note by G.A. Corby. Q.J. Roy. Met. Soc., 94, 402-407.

22. R.S. Lindzen, E.S. Batten and J.W. Kim (1968). Oscillations in atmospheres with tops. Mon. Wea. Rev., 96, 133-140. [pdf]

23. R.S. Lindzen and J.R. Holton (1968). A note on Kelvin waves in the atmosphere. Mon. Wea. Rev., 96, 385-386. [pdf]

24. R.S. Lindzen and T. Matsuno (1968). On the nature of large scale wave disturbances in the equatorial lower stratosphere. J. Met. Soc. Japan, 46, 215-221. [pdf]

25. R.S. Lindzen and J.R. Holton (1968). A theory of quasi-biennial oscillation. J. Atmos. Sci., 26, 1095-1107. [pdf]

26. (1968) Vertically propagating waves in an atmosphere with Newtonian cooling inversely proportional to density. Can. J. Phys., 46, 1835-1840.

27. (1968) Some speculations on the roles of critical level interactions between internal gravity waves and mean flows. In Acoustic Gravity Waves in the Atmosphere, T.M. Georges, ed. U.S. Government Printing Office.

28. (1969) Data necessary for the detection and description of tides and gravity waves in the upper atmosphere. J. Atmos. Ter. Phys., 31, 449-456.

29. R.S. Lindzen and S. Chapman (1969). Atmospheric tides. Sp. Sci. Revs., 10, 3-188. [pdf]

30. R.S. Lindzen and H.L. Kuo (1969). A reliable method for the numerical integration of a large class of ordinary and partial differential equations. Mon. Wea. Rev., 97, 732-734. [pdf]

31. (1969) Vertical momentum transport by large scale disturbances of the equatorial lower stratosphere. J. Met. Soc. Japan., 48, 81-83.

32. (1969) The latke, the hamantasch and the (m)oral crisis in the university. The Jewish Digest, 15, 55-58. [pdf]

33. S. Chapman and R.S. Lindzen (1970). Atmospheric Tides, D. Reidel Press, Dordrecht, Holland, 200 pp.

34. (1970) Internal equatorial planetary scale waves in shear flow. J. Atmos. Sci., 27, 394-407. [pdf]

35. (1970) The application and applicability of terrestrial atmospheric tidal theory to Venus and Mars. J. Atmos. Sci., 27, 536-549. [pdf]

36. (1970) Mean heating of the thermosphere by tides. J. Geophys. Res., 75, 6868-6871.

37. (l970) Internal gravity waves in atmospheres with realistic dissipation and temperature: Part I. Mathematical development and propagation of waves into the thermosphere. Geophys. Fl. Dyn., 1, 303-355. [pdf]

38. R.S. Lindzen and D. Blake (1971). Internal gravity waves in atmospheres with realistic dissipation and temperature: Part II. Thermal tides excited below the mesopause. Geophys. Fl. Dyn., 2, 31-61. [pdf]

39. (1971) Internal gravity waves in atmospheres with realistic dissipation and temperature: Part III. Daily variations in the thermosphere. Geophys. Fl. Dyn., 2, 89-121. [pdf]

40. (197l) Tides and gravity waves in the upper atmosphere. In Mesospheric Models and Related Experiments, G. Fiocco, ed., D. Reidel Pub., Dordrecht, Holland.

41. (1971) Atmospheric Tides. Lec. in App. Math., 14, 293-362.

42. (1971) Some aspects of atmospheric waves in realistic atmosphere. In Atmospheric Model Criteria, R.E. Smith and S.T. Wu, eds., Marshall Space Flight Center, NASA Report SP-305, pp. 71-90.

43. (1971) Equatorial planetary waves in shear: Part I. J. Atmos. Sci., 28, 609-622. [pdf]

44. (1972) Equatorial planetary waves in shear: Part II. J. Atmos. Sci., 29, 1452-1463. [pdf]

45. (1972) Atmospheric tides. In Structure and Dynamics of the Upper Atmosphere, F. Verniani, ed., Elsevier, New York, pp. 21-88.

46. R.S. Lindzen and D. Blake (1972). Lamb waves in the presence of realistic distributions of temperature and dissipation. J. Geophys. Res., 7, 2166-2176.

47. (1972) The 26 month oscillation in the atmosphere. In Geopaedia Encyclopedic Dictionary of Geosciences, Pergamon Press, New York.

48. (1972) Atmospheric tides. In Geopaedia Encyclopedic Dictionary of Geosciences, Pergamon Press, New York. [pdf]

49. J.R. Holton and R.S. Lindzen (1972). An updated theory for the quasibiennial cycle of the tropical stratosphere. J. Atmos. Sci., 29, 1076-1080. [pdf]

50. (1973) Wave-mean flow interaction in the upper atmosphere. Bound. Lay. Met., 4, 327-343.

51. (1973) Hydrodynamics of stratified fluids. Bound. Lay. Met., 4, 227-231.

52. D. Blake and R.S. Lindzen (1973). Effect of photochemical models on calculated equilibria and cooling rates in the stratosphere. Mon. Wea. Rev., 101, 738-802.

53. J.R. Holton and R.S. Lindzen (1973). Internal gravity wave-mean wind interaction. Science, 182, 85-86.

54. R.S. Lindzen and S.S. Hong (1973). Equivalent gravity modes -- an interim evaluation. Geophys. Fl. Dyn., 4, 279-292.

55. R.S. Lindzen and D. Will (1973). An analytic formula for heating due to ozone absorption. J. Atmos. Sci., 30, 513-515. [pdf]

56. (1974) Wave-CISK and tropical meteorology. Proceedings Int'l. Trop. Met. Meeting, 1/31-2/7, Nairobi, Kenya. Amer. Met. Soc. Pub.

57. (1974) Wave-CISK in the tropics. J. Atmos. Sci., 31, 156-179. [pdf]

58. (1974) Wave-CISK and tropical spectra. J. Atmos. Sci., 31, 1447-1449. [pdf]

59. (1974) Stability of a Helmholtz velocity profile in a continuously stratified infinite Boussinesq fluid - applications to a clear air turbulence. J. Atmos. Sci., 31, 1507-1514. [pdf]

60. S. Fels and R.S. Lindzen (1974). Interaction of thermally excited gravity waves with mean flows. Geophys. Fl. Dyn., 6, 149-191. [pdf]

61. R.S. Lindzen and S.S. Hong (1974). Effects of mean winds and horizonal temperature gradients on solar and lunar semidiurnal tides in the atmosphere. J. Atmos. Sci., 31, 1421-1446. [pdf]

62. (1975) Reply to comments by A. Hollingsworth. J. Atmos. Sci., 31, 1643.

63. R.S. Lindzen and C.Y. Tsay (1975). Wave structure of tropical atmosphere over the Marshall Islands during 1 April - 1 July 1958. J. Atmos. Sci., 32, 2009-2021. [pdf]

64. R.S. Lindzen and S.S. Hong (1976) Reply to comments by M. Geller. J. Atmos. Sci., 33, 558. [pdf]

65. (1976) A modal decomposition of the semidiurnal tide in the lower atmosphere. J. Geophys. Res., 81, 2923-2925.

66. R.S. Lindzen and S.S. Hong (1976). Solar semidiurnal tide in the thermosphere. J. Atmos. Sci., 33, 135-153. [pdf]

67. R.S. Lindzen and A.J. Rosenthal (1976). On the instability of Helmholtz velocity profiles in stably stratified fluids when a lower boundary is present. J. Geophys. Res., 81, 1561-1571. [pdf]

68. R.S. Lindzen and K.K. Tung (1976). Banded convective activity and ducted gravity waves. Mon. Wea. Rev., 104, 1602-1617. [pdf]

69. E. Schneider and R.S. Lindzen (1976). A discussion of the parameterization of momentum exchange by cumulus convection. J. Geophys. Res., 81, 3158-3160.

70. E. Schneider and R.S. Lindzen (1976). On the influence of stable stratification on the thermally driven tropical boundary layer. J. Atmos. Sci., 33, 1301-1307. [pdf]

71. J. Forbes and R.S. Lindzen (1976). Atmospheric solar tides and their electrodynamic effects. Part I: The global Sq current system. J. Atmos. Ter. Phys., 38, 897-910.

72. J. Forbes and R.S. Lindzen (1976). Atmospheric solar tides and their electrodynamic effects. Part II: The equatorial electrojet. J. Atmos. Ter. Phys., 38, 911-920.

73. J. Forbes and R.S. Lindzen (1977). Atmospheric solar tides and their electrodynamic effects. Part III: The polarization electric field. J. Atmos. Ter. Phys., 38, 1369-1377.

74. (1977) Some aspects of convection in meteorology. In Problems of Stellar Convection, J.P. Zahn, ed., Springer Verlag, New York, 128-141.

75. R.S. Lindzen and B. Farrell (1977). Some realistic modifications of simple climate models. J. Atmos. Sci., 34, 1487-1501. [pdf]

76. R.S. Lindzen, J. Forbes and S.S. Hong (1977). Semidiurnal Hough modes extensions and their application. Naval Research Lab. Memorandum. Rep. 3442, 65 pp.

77. E. Schneider and R.S. Lindzen (1977). Axially symmetric steady state models of the basic state of instability and climate studies. Part I: Linearized calculations. J. Atmos. Sci., 34, 253-279. [pdf]

78. D. Stevens, R.S. Lindzen and L. Shapiro (1977). A new model of tropical waves incorporating momentum mixing by cumulus convection. Dyn. Atmos. and Oc., 1, 365-425. [pdf]

79. (1978) Effect of daily variations of cumulonimbus activity on the atmospheric semidiurnal tide. Mon. Wea. Rev., 106, 526-533. [pdf]

80. (1979) Atmospheric Tides. Ann. Rev. Earth & Plan. Sci., 7, 199-225.

81. R.S. Lindzen and K.K. Tung (1978). Wave overreflection and shear instability. J. Atmos. Sci., 35, 1626-1632. [pdf]

82. D. Stevens and R.S. Lindzen (1978). Tropical wave-CISK with a moisture budget and cumulus friction. J. Atmos. Sci., 35, 940-961. [pdf]

83. D. Stevens and R.S. Lindzen (1978). Tropical wave-CISK with cumulus friction. Proc. AMS Symp. on Trop. Met., Key Biscayne.

84. R.S. Lindzen and J.M. Forbes (l978). Boundary layers associated with thermal forced planetary waves. J. Atmos. Sci., 35, 1441-1449. [pdf]

85. K.K. Tung and R.S. Lindzen (1979). Theory of stationary long waves. Part I. A simple theory of blocking. Mon. Wea. Rev., 107, 714-734. [pdf]

86. K.K. Tung and R.S. Lindzen (1979). Theory of stationary long waves. Part II. Resonant Rossby waves in the presence of realistic vertical shear. Mon. Wea. Rev. 107, 735-750. [pdf]

87. (1979) On a calculation of the symmetric circulation and its implications for the role of eddies. Proceedings of the NCAR General Circulation Colloquium, 1978. [pdf]

88. (1979) The concept of wave overreflection and its application to baroclinic instability. Proceedings of the NCAR General Circulation Colloquium 1978. [pdf]

89. R.S. Lindzen, B. Farrell and K.K. Tung (1980). The concept of wave overreflection and its application to baroclinic instability. J. Atmos. Sci., 37, 44-63. [pdf]

90. R.S. Lindzen and B. Farrell (1980). Reply. J. Atmos. Sci., 37, 900-902. [pdf]

91. R.S. Lindzen and B. Farrell (1980). A simple approximate result for the maximum growth rate of baroclinic instabilities. J. Atmos. Sci., 37, 1648-1654. [pdf]

92. R.S. Lindzen and B. Farrell (1980). The role of polar regions in global climate, and the parameterization of global heat transport. Mon. Wea. Rev., 108, 2064-2079. [pdf]

93. (1980) Theory of atmospheric tides. J. Meteor. Soc. Japan, 58, 273-278. [pdf]

94. (1980) Wave-CISK and cumulus parameterization in perspective. Proceedings of NAS Symposium on the Impact of GATE on Large-Scale Numerical Modeling of the Atmosphere and Ocean. Woods Hole, MA.

95. E.K. Schneider and R.S. Lindzen (1980). Comments on cumulus friction: Estimated influence on the tropical mean meridional circulation. J. Atmos. Sci., 37, 2803-2806. [pdf]

96. R.S. Lindzen and A.J. Rosenthal (1981). A WKB asymptotic analysis of baroclinic instability. J. Atmos. Sci., 38, 619-629. [pdf]

97. (1981) Turbulence and stress due to gravity wave and tidal breakdown. J. Geophys. Res., 86, 9707-9714. [pdf]

98. (1981) Some remarks on cumulus parameterization. Proceedings of the NASA Clouds in Climate Conference, NASA Report, available NASA/Goddard Institute of Space Studies. [pdf]

99. R.S. Lindzen, A.Y. Hou and B.F. Farrell (1982). The role of convective model choice in calculating the climate impact of doubling CO2. J. Atmos. Sci., 39, 1189-1205. [pdf]

100. R.S. Lindzen, B.F. Farrell and D. Jacqmin (1982). Vacillations due to wave interference. J. Atmos. Sci., 39, 14-23. [pdf]

101. R.S. Lindzen and M.R. Schoeberl (1982). A note on the limits of Rossby wave amplitudes. J. Atmos. Sci., 39, 1171-1174. [pdf]

102. R.S. Lindzen, T. Aso and D. Jacqmin (1982). Linearized calculations of stationary waves in the atmosphere. J. Met. Soc. Japan, 60, 66-78. [pdf]

103. R.S. Lindzen and J. Forbes (1982). Turbulence originating from stable internal waves. J. Geophys. Res., 88, 6549-6553. [pdf]

104. R.S. Lindzen, B. Farrell and A.J. Rosenthal (1983). Absolute barotropic instability and monsoon depressions. J. Atmos. Sci., 40, 1178-1184. [pdf]

105. A. Rosenthal and R.S. Lindzen (1983). Instabilities in a stratified flud having one critical level. Part I: Results. J. Atmos. Sci., 40, 509-520. [pdf]

106. A. Rosenthal and R.S. Lindzen (1983). Instabilities in a stratified fluid having one critical level. Part II: Explanation of gravity wave instabilities as overreflected waves. J. Atmos. Sci., 40, 521-529. [pdf]

107. A. Rosenthal and R.S. Lindzen (1983). Instabilities in a stratified fluid having one critical level. Part III: Kelvin-Helmholtz instabilities as overreflected waves. J. Atmos. Sci., 40, 530-542. [pdf]

108. A. Rosenthal and R.S. Lindzen (1983). Instabilities in a stratified shear flow in the absence of Kelvin-Helmholtz instabilities. Tech. Rept., Center for Met. and Phys. Oceanogr., MIT.

109. R.S. Lindzen, A.J. Rosenthal and B. Farrell (1983). Charney's problem for baroclinic instability applied to barotropic instability. J. Atmos. Sci., 40, 1029-1034. [pdf]

110. R.S. Lindzen, D. Straus and B. Katz (1984). An observational study of large scale atmospheric Rossby waves. J. Atmos. Sci., 41, 1320-1335. [pdf]

111. (1984) Gravity waves in the mesosphere, in Dynamics of the Middle Atmosphere, J.R. Holton and T. Matsuno, eds., Terra Scientific Publishing Company, Tokyo, Japan. [pdf]

112. R.S. Lindzen and H. Teitelbaum (1984). Venus zonal wind above the cloud layer. ICARUS, 57, 356-361. [pdf]

113. (1984) Charney's work on vertically propagating Rossby waves -- with remarks on his early research at MIT, in The Atmosphere - A Challenge, A memorial to Jule Charney, R.S. Lindzen, E.N. Lorenz, and G.W. Platzman, editors, Historical Monograph Series of the Am. Meteor. Soc. appeared in 1990. [pdf]

114. M. Schoeberl and R.S. Lindzen (1984). A numerical simulation of barotropic instability including wave-mean flow interaction. J. Atmos. Sci., 41, 1368-1379. [pdf]

115. R.S. Lindzen and J. Barker (1985). Instability and wave over-reflection in stably stratified shear flow. J. Fluid Mech., 151, 189-217. [pdf]

116. D. Jacqmin and R.S. Lindzen (1985). The causation and sensitivity of the northern winter planetary waves. J. Atmos. Sci., 42, 724-745. [pdf]

117. (1985) Multiple gravity wave breaking levels. J. Atmos. Sci., 42, 301-305. [pdf]

118. (1986) Stationary planetary waves, blocking, and interannual variability. Adv. Geophys., 29, 251-273. [pdf]

119. (1986). A simple model for 100 thousand years oscillations in glaciation. J. Atmos. Sci., 43, 986-996. [pdf]

120. R.S. Lindzen and S. Rambaldi (1986). A study of overreflection in viscous Poiseuille flow. J. Fluid Mech., 152, 355-372. [pdf]

121. P. Ioannou and R.S. Lindzen (1986). Baroclinic instability in the presence of barotropic jets. J. Atmos. Sci., 43, 2999-3014. [pdf]

122. R.S. Lindzen and S. Nigam (1987). On the role of sea surface temperature gradients in forcing low level winds and convergence in the tropics. J. Atmos. Sci., 44, 2418-2436. [pdf]

123. D.M. Straus, R.S. Lindzen and A.M. da Silva (1987). The characteristic Rossby frequency. J. Atmos. Sci., 44, 1100-1105. [pdf]

124. (1987) The development of the theory of the QBO. (Personal Recollections). Bull. Am. Met. Soc., 68, 329-337. [pdf]

125. R.S. Lindzen and B. Farrell (1987). Atmospheric Dynamics. Rev. of Geophys., 25, 323-328. [pdf]

126. A.M. da Silva and R.S. Lindzen (1988). A mechanism for the excitation of ultralong Rossby waves, J. Atmos. Sci., 44, 3625-3639. [pdf]

127. (1988) CO2 feedbacks and the 100K year cycle. Meteorol. Atmos. Phys., 38, 42-49. [pdf]

128. (1988) Instability of plane parallel shear flow (Towards a mechanistic picture of how it works). PAGEOPH, 16, 103-121. [pdf]

129. (1988) Some remarks on cumulus parameterization. PAGEOPH, 16, 123-135. [pdf]

130. (1988) Supersaturation of vertically propagating internal gravity waves. J. Atmos. Sci., 45, 705-711. [pdf]

131. R.S. Lindzen and A.Y. Hou (1988). Hadley circulations for zonally averaged heating centered off the equator. J. Atmos. Sci., 45, 2416-2427. [pdf]

132. R.S. Lindzen and K.-K.- Tung (1988). Comments on 'On the shear instability without over-reflection' by Masaaki Takahashi. J. Met. Soc. Japan, 66, 179-184. [pdf]

133. R. Miller and R.S. Lindzen (1988). Viscous destabilization of stratified shear flow for Ri>1/4. Geophys. Astrophys. Fl. Dyn., 42, 49-91. [pdf]

134. C. Snyder and R.S. Lindzen (1988). Upper level baroclinic instability. J. Atmos. Sci., 45, 2446-2459. [pdf]

135. S. Nigam and R.S. Lindzen (1989). The Sensitivity of stationary waves to variations in the basic state zonal flow. J. Atmos. Sci., 46, 1746-1768. [pdf]

136. R.S. Lindzen and M. Fox-Rabinovitz (1989). Consistent horizontal and vertical resolution. Mon. Wea. Rev., 117, 2575-2583. [pdf]

137. P. Ioannou and R.S. Lindzen (1990). W.K.B.J. approximation of the stability of a frontal mean state. J. Atmos. Sci., 47, 2825-2831. [pdf]

138. (1990) Some coolness concerning global warming. Bull. Amer. Met. Soc., 71, 288-299. [pdf]

139. (1990) Some remarks on global warming. Env. Sci. Tech., 24, 424-427. [pdf]

140. (1990) A skeptic speaks out. EPA Jour., 16, 46-47. [pdf]

141. (1990) Greenhouse warming: science v. consensus. in Environmental Consequences of Energy Production, proceedings of the seventeenth annual Illinois Energy Conference. Publ. by Energy Resources Center, The University of Illinois at Chicago.

142. (1990) Dynamics in Atmospheric Physics, Cambridge University Press, New York, 310pp.

143. (edited with G.W. Platzman and E.N. Lorenz) (1990) The Atmosphere - A Challenge A memorial to Jule Charney, Historical Monograph Series of the Am. Meteor. Soc.

144. (1990) Response: Greenhouse warming and the tropical water budget. Bull. Amer. Met. Soc., 71, 1465-1467. [pdf]

145. C. Snyder and R.S. Lindzen (1991). Quasi-geostrophic wave-CISK in an unbounded baroclinic shear. J. Atmos. Sci., 48, 78-88. [pdf]

146. (with Volkmar Wirth) (1991) Zero potential vorticity gradient basic states in the neighborhood of the equator. in Proceedings of the Fourteenth Annual Climate Diagnostics Workshop. NTIS, US Dept. of Commerce, Springfield, VA pp 256-259. [pdf]

147. (1991) Some remarks on the dynamics of the Jovian atmospheres. Geophys. and Astrophys. Fl. Dyn., 58, 123-141. [pdf]

148. (1991) Prospects for tropical modeling. Proc. ECMWF Conf. on Tropical Meteorology. [pdf]

149. (1991) The Hadley circulation. Proc. ECMWF Conf. on Tropical Meteorology. [pdf]

150. (1991) Some uncertainties with respect to water vapor's role in climate sensitivity. Proceedings of NASA Workshop on the Role of Water Vapor in Climate Processes, October 29 - November 1, 1990 in Easton, Maryland (D.O'C. Starr and H. Melfi, editors). [pdf]

151. Miller, R. and R.S. Lindzen (1992) Organization of rainfall by an unstable jet with application to African waves. J. Atmos. Sci., 49, 1523-1540. [pdf]

152. Hou, A.Y. and R.S. Lindzen (1992) The influence of concentrated heating on the Hadley circulation. J. Atmos. Sci., 49, 1233-1241. [pdf]

153. (1992) Global warming: the origin and nature of the alleged scientific consensus. Regulation, Spring 1992 issue, 87-98. [pdf]

154. A.M. Da Silva and R.S. Lindzen (1993) On the establishment of stationary waves in the northern hemisphere winter. J. Atmos. Sci., 50, 43-61. [pdf]

155. Fox-Rabinovitz, M. and R.S. Lindzen (1993) Numerical experiments on consistent horizontal and vertical resolution for atmospheric models and observing systems. Mon. Wea. Rev., 121, 264--271. [pdf]

156. Sun, D-Z. and R.S. Lindzen (1993) Water vapor feedback and the ice age snowline record. Ann. Geophys., 11, 204-215. [pdf]

157. Sun, D-Z. and R.S. Lindzen (1993) Distribution of tropical tropospheric water vapor. J. Atmos. Sci., 50, 1643-1660. [pdf]

158. (1993) Baroclinic neutrality and the tropopause. J. Atmos. Sci., 50, 1148-1151. [pdf]

159. Ioannou, P. and R.S. Lindzen (1993) Gravitational tides in the outer planets. I. Implications of classical tidal theory. Astrophys. J., 406, 252-265. [pdf]

160. Ioannou, P. and R.S. Lindzen (1993) Gravitational tides in the outer planets. II: Interior calculations and estimation of the tidal dissipation factor. Astrophys. J., 406, 266-278. [pdf]

161. (1993) On the scientific basis for global warming scenarios. Env. Pollution, 83, 125-134. [pdf]

162. (1995) Constraining possibilities versus signal detection. pp 182-186 in Natural Climate Variability on Decade-to-Century Time Scales, Ed. D.G. Martinson, National Academy Press, Washington, DC, 630pp. [pdf]

163. (1993) Commentary (on the benefit of CO2 emission reductions vis a vis climate). in Enhancing Environmental Quality Through Economic Growth, American Council for Capital Formation, Washington, DC, 130-137.

164. (1993) Absence of scientific basis (for global warming scenarios). Research and Exploration (published by National Geographic), 9, 191-200. [pdf]

165. (1993) Paleoclimate sensitivity. Nature, 363, 25-26. [pdf]

166. (1993) Climate dynamics and global change. Ann. Rev. Fl. Mech., 26, 353-378. [pdf]

167. (1993) Gravity wave breaking: legitimizing popular "fudges". Current Contents, 24, 8. [pdf]

168. Sun, D.-Z. and R.S. Lindzen (1994) A PV view of the zonal mean distribution of temperature and wind in the extra-tropical troposphere. J. Atmos. Sci., 51, 757-772. [pdf]

169. Ioannou, P. and R.S. Lindzen (1994) Gravitiational tides on Jupiter: Part III: Atmospheric response and mean flow acceleration. Astrophys. J., 424, 1005-1013. [pdf]

170. (1994) The Eady Problem with zero PV gradient but beta unequal to zero. J. Atmos. Sci., 51, 3221-3226. [pdf]

171. Lindzen, R.S., and W. Pan (1994) A note on orbital control of equator-pole heat fluxes. Clim. Dyn., 10, 49-57. [pdf]

172. (1994) The effect of concentrated PV gradients on stationary waves. J. Atmos. Sci., 51, 3455-3466. [pdf]

173. Kirk-Davidoff, D. and R.S. Lindzen (1994) Meridional heat fluxes inferred from past climates and implications for the tropical heat budget. in preparation.

174. Lindzen, R.S., B. Kirtman, D. Kirk-Davidoff and E. Schneider (1994) Seasonal surrogate for climate. J. Climate, 8, 1681-1684. [pdf]

175. Lindzen, R.S., D.-Z. Sun, E. K.-M. Chang, and P. Ioannou (1994) Properties of a troposphere with zero EPV gradients on isentropes.Proceedings of the Eighteenth Annual Climate Diagnostics Workshop. NTIS, US Dept. of Commerce, Springfield, VA. [pdf]

176. (1994) What we know and what we don't know about global warming. pp 335-358 in International Seminar on Nuclear War and Planetary Emergencies - 18th Session - 1993, K. Goebel, editor, World Scientific, Singapore, 444pp. [pdf]

177. (1994) Classic problems in dynamics revisited. pp 90-98 in The Life Cycles of Extratropical Cyclones, Volume 1 (Grønås, S. and M. Shapiro, Editors), Geophysical Institute, University of Bergen, Bergen, Norway 286 p. [pdf]

178. (1996) The importance and nature of the water vapor budget in nature and models. In Climate Sensitivity to Radiative Perturbations: Physical Mechanisms and their Validation, H. Le Treut (editor), pp. 51-66, NATO ASI Series 1: Global Environmental Change, Vol. 34, Springer-Verlag, Heidelberg, 331p. [pdf]

179. (1995) How cold would we get under CO2-less sky? Phys. Today, 48, 78-80. [pdf]

180. (1996) Science and politics: global warming and eugenics. in Risks, Costs, and Lives Saved, R. Hahn, editor, Oxford University Press, New York, 267pp (Chapter 5, 85-103). [pdf]

181. (1997) Can increasing atmospheric CO2 affect global climate? Proc. Natl..Acad. Sci. USA, 94, 8335-8342. [pdf]

182. G.H. Roe and R.S. Lindzen (1996) Baroclinic adjustment in a two-level model with barotropic shear. J. Atmos. Sci., 53, 2749-2754. [pdf]

183. N. Harnik and R.S. Lindzen (1998) Baroclinic instability in unbounded atmospheres with realistic distributions of PV gradient. J. Atmos. Sci., 55, 344-360. [pdf]

184. R.S. Lindzen and C. Giannitsis (1998) On the climatic implications of volcanic cooling. J. Geophys. Res., 103, 5929-5941. [pdf]

185. E. Schneider, R.S. Lindzen, and B. Kirtman (1997) A tropical influence on global climate. J. Atmos. Sci., 54, pp. 1349-1358. [pdf]

186. W.D. Braswell and R.S. Lindzen (1998) Anomalous short wave absorption and atmospheric tides. Geophys. Res. Ltrs., 25, 1293-1296. [pdf]

187. R.S. Lindzen and G.H. Roe (1997) Correction: The effect of concentrated PV gradients on stationary waves. J. Atmos. Sci., 54, 1815-1818. [pdf]

188. Giannitsis, C. and R.S. Lindzen (2001) Non-linear saturation of topographically forced Rossby waves in a barotropic model. J. Atmos. Sci., 58, 2927-2941. [pdf]

189. Schneider, E.K., B.P. Kirtman and R.S. Lindzen (1999) Upper tropospheric water vapor and climate sensitivity. J. Atmos. Sci.,56, 1649-1658. [pdf]

190. Kirk-Davidoff, D.B. and R.S. Lindzen (2000) An energy balance model based on potential vorticity homogenization. J. Climate, 13, 431-448. [pdf]

191. (1998) Den Problematiska växthuseffekten. Chapter 8 in Klimatpolitik efter Kyotomötet (T.R. Gerholm, editor), SNS Förlag, Stockholm, 175pp. [pdf]

191a. (1999) The Greenhouse Effect and its problems. Chapter 8 in Climate Policy After Kyoto (T.R. Gerholm, editor), Multi-Science Publishing Co., Brentwood, UK, 170pp.

192. A. Solomon and R.S. Lindzen (2000) The impact of resolution on a numerical simulation of barotropic instability. J. Atmos. Sci., 57, 3799-3816. [pdf]

193. D. Straus and R.S. Lindzen (2000) Planetary scale baroclinic instability and the MJO. J. Atmos. Sci., 57, 3609-3626. [pdf]

194 R.S. Lindzen, M.-D. Chou, and A.Y. Hou (2001) Does the Earth have an adaptive infrared iris? Bull. Amer. Met. Soc. 82, 417-432. [pdf]

195. G. Roe and R.S. Lindzen (2001) A one-dimensional model for the interaction between ice sheets and atmospheric stationary waves. Climate Dyn., 17, 479-487. [pdf]

196. G. Roe and R.S. Lindzen (2001) The mutual interaction between continental-scale ice sheets and atmospheric stationary waves. J. Climate, 14, 1450-1465. [pdf]

197. N. Harnik and R.S. Lindzen (2000) Are TOVS temperature retrievals capable of resolving the vertical structure of stratospheric planetary waves? submitted Ann. Geophys.

198. R.S. Lindzen and K. Emanuel (2002) The greenhouse effect. in Encyclopedia of Global Change, Environmental Change and Human Society, Volume 1, Andrew S. Goudie, editor in chief, pp 562-566, Oxford University Press, New York,710 pp. [pdf]

199. Sun, D.-Z., C. Covey, and R.S. Lindzen (2001) Vertical correlations of water vapor in GCMs.. Geophys. Res. Lett., 28 , 259-262. [pdf]

200. Giannitsis, C. and R.S. Lindzen (2001) Non-linear saturation of vertically propagating Rossby waves. accepted J. Atmos. Sci. [pdf]

201. Zurita, P. and R.S. Lindzen (2001) The equilibration of short Charney waves: Implications for potential vorticity homogenization in the extratropical troposphere. J. Atmos. Sci., 58, 3443-3462. [pdf]

202. Harnik, N. and R.S. Lindzen (2001) The effect of reflecting surfaces on the vertical structure and variability of stratospheric planetary waves. J. Atmos. Sci., 58, 2872-2894. [pdf]

203. Lindzen, R.S. and C. Giannitsis (2002) Reconciling observations of global temperature change. Geophys. Res. Ltrs. 29, (26 June) 10.1029/2001GL014074 [pdf]

204. Lindzen, R.S. (2002a) Do Deep Ocean Temperature Records Verify Models? Geophys. Res. Ltrs., 29, 10.1029/2001GL014360. [pdf]

205. Lindzen, R.S. (2002b) Richard J. Reed and Atmospheric Tides in A Half Century of Progress in Meteorology: A Tribute to Richard J. Reed, R. Johnson, editor, American Meteorological Society Monograph, in press.

206. Chou, M.-D., R.S. Lindzen, and A.Y. Hou (2002a) Impact of Albedo Contrast between Cirru and Boundary-Layer Clouds on Climate Sensitivity. Atmospheric Chemistry and Physics, 2, 99-101.

207. Lindzen, R.S., M.-D. Chou, and A.Y. Hou (2002) Comments on "No evidence for iris." Bull. Amer. Met. Soc., 83, 1345-1348. [pdf]

208. Chou, M.-D., R.S. Lindzen, and A.Y. Hou (2002) Reply to: "Tropical cirrus and water vapor: an effective Earth infrared iris feedback?" Atmospheric Chemistry and Physics, 2, 99-101. [pdf]

209. Chou, M.-D., R.S. Lindzen, and A.Y. Hou (2002b) Comments on "The Iris hypothesis: A negative or positive cloud feedback?" J. Climate, 15, 2713-2715. [pdf]

210. Bell, T. L., M.-D. Chou, R.S. Lindzen, and A.Y. Hou (2002) Response to Comment on "Does the Earth Have an Adaptive Infrared Iris?" Bull. Amer. Met. Soc., 83, 598-600. [pdf]

211. Lindzen, R.S. (2002c) A new approach to wave-cumulus interaction. submitted J. Atmos. Sci.

212. Lindzen, R.S., M.-D. Chou, and A.Y. Hou (2002) New results on the Iris Effect. in preparation.

213. Zurita-Gotor, P., and R.S. Lindzen (2004) "Baroclinic equilibration and the maintenance of the momentum balance. Part I: barotropic analog." J. Atmos. Sci., 61, 1469-1482. [pdf]

214. Zurita-Gotor, P., and R.S. Lindzen (2004) "Baroclinic equilibration and the maintenance of the momentum balance. Part II: 3-D results." J. Atmos. Sci., 61, 1483-1499. [pdf]

215. Chou, M.-D. and R.S. Lindzen (2002) Comments on "Tropical convection and the energy balance of the top of the atmosphere." J. Climate, 15, 2566-2570. [pdf]

216. Lindzen, R.S. (2003) The Interaction of Waves and Convection in the Tropics. J. Atmos. Sci., 60, 3009-3020. [pdf]

217. Chou, M.-D. and R.S. Lindzen (2005) Comments on “Examination of the Decadal Tropical Mean ERBS Nonscanner Radiation Data for the Iris Hypothesis”. J. Clim. 18, 2123-2127.

218. Kennel, C.F., R.S. Lindzen, and W. Munk (2004) William Aaron Nierenberg (1919-2000) - A biographical memoir. Biographical Memoirs of the N.A.S., 85, 1-20.

219. Zurita-Gotor, P., and R.S. Lindzen (2006) A generalized momentum framework for looking at baroclinic circulations. In press J. Atmos. Sci.

220. Zurita-Gotor, P., and R.S. Lindzen (2006) Theories of baroclinic adjustment and eddy equilibration. In Recent Results in General Circulation Theory. T. Schneider and A. Sobel, Editors. Princeton (in press).

221. Rondanelli, R., V. Thayalan, R.S. Lindzen, and M.T. Zuber (2006) Atmospheric contribution to the dissipation of the gravitational tide of Phobos on Mars. Geophys. Res. Lett., 33, L15201, doi:10.1029/2006GL026222.

222. Lindzen, R.S. (2008) An Exchange on Climate Science and Alarm. In Global Warming: Looking Beyond Kyoto (Ernesto Zedillo, editor), Brookings Institution Press, Washington, DC. [pdf]

223. Lindzen, R.S. (2006) Quelques observations sur la répartition des juifs dans Paris intra-muros. Submitted to L’Arche.

224. Rondanelli, R., and R. S. Lindzen (2008), Observed variations in convective precipitation fraction and stratiform area with sea surface temperature. J. Geophys. Res., 113, D16119, doi:10.1029/2008JD010064.

225. Lindzen, R.S. (2006) Climate of Fear, Wall Street Journal, April 12, 2006.

226. Lindzen, R.S. (2006) There is no ‘consensus’ on global warming, Wall Street Journal, June 26, 2006.

227. Lindzen, R.S. (2006) Debunking the Myth. Business Today, 43, 66-67.

228. Robert M. Carter, C. R. de Freitas, Indur M. Goklany, David Holland & Richard S. Lindzen (2006) The Stern Review: A Dual Critique, Part I: The Science, World Economics, 7, ??-??

229. Lindzen, R.S. (2007) Taking Greenhouse Warming Seriously, Energy & Environment, 18, 937-950. [pdf]

230. Rondanelli, R., and R. S. Lindzen (2008), Observed variations in convective precipitation fraction and stratiform area with sea surface temperature. J. Geophys. Res., 113, D16119, doi:10.1029/2008JD010064.

231. Rondanelli, R. & R.S. Lindzen (2009) Journal of Geophysical Research, (in review), Comments on “Variations of tropical upper tropospheric clouds with sea surface temperature and implications for radiative effects” by Su et al., 2008.

232. Rondanelli, R. & R.S. Lindzen (2009) Can thin cirrus clouds in the tropics provide a solution to the faint young sun paradox? (to be submitted to Journal of Geophysical Research).

233. Choi, Y.-S., C.-H. Ho, S.-W. Kim, R.S. Lindzen and Q. Hu (2009) Abundant supercooled clouds in the winter Antarctic atmosphere observed in MODIS and CALIOP measurements. (submitted to J. Climate)

234. Ho, C.-H., Y.-S. Choi, J. Kim and R.S. Lindzen (2009) Presence of supercooled clouds in very cold temperature ranges. (submitted to Nature Geoscience).

235. Choi, Y.-S., R.S. Lindzen and C.-H. Ho (2009) Dust aerosol influence on cold cloud albedo (in preparation).


THESES ADVISED BY PROF. RICHARD S. LINDZEN
1. Blake, Donna Wells
Simplified Photochemical Models and Their Applications in the
Stratosphere and Mesosphere
University of Chicago PhD 1973
2. Hong, Siu-Shung
Semidiurnal Tides in an Atmosphere with Mean Wind and Dissipation
University of Chicago PhD 1973
3. Forbes, Jeffrey Michael
Atmospheric Solar Tides and Their Electrodynamic Effects
Harvard University PhD 1975
4. Shapiro, Lloyd Joel
Tropical Waves and Tropical Cyclone Generation
Harvard University PhD 1975
5. Boyd, John Philip
Planetary Waves and the Semiannual Wind Oscillation in the
Tropical Upper Stratosphere
Harvard University PhD 1976
6. Schneider, Edwin Kahn
The Hadley Circulation of the Earth’s Atmosphere
Harvard University PhD 1975
7. Stevens, Duane Edwin
Atmospheric Waves Forced by Cumulus Convection in the Tropics
Harvard University PhD 1977
8. Tung, Ka-Kit
Stationary Atmospheric Long Waves and the Phenomena of
Blocking and Sudden Warming
Harvard University PhD 1977
9. Niehaus, Margaret Christine Wheldon
Baroclinic Instability of a Non-zonal Flow
Harvard University PhD 1979
10. Farrell, Brian Francis
Baroclinic Instability as an Initial Value Problem
Harvard University PhD 1981
11. Hou, Arthur Yuhan
Thermal Convection in Planetary Atmospheres
Harvard University PhD 1981
12. Rosenthal, Arthur James
Gravity Wave and Kelvin-Helmholtz Instabilities in Stably Stratified
Shear Flows
Harvard University PhD 1981
13. Ioannou, Petros John
Baroclinic Instability of Atmospheric Jets
Harvard University PhD 1983
14. Jacqmin, David Alan
The Causation and Variability of the Northern Winter
Quasi-stationary Planetary Waves
Harvard University PhD 1983
15. Watterson, Ian Geoffrey
The Effect of the Hadley Circulation on the Meridional Propagation of
Stationary Waves
Harvard University PhD 1985
16. Chang, Chia-Yung
Momentum Transport Due to a Squall Line System over
the Tropical Oceans
Massachusetts Institute of Technology MSc 1988
17. Da Silva, Arlindo Morales, Jr.
The Role of Temporal Changes of the Zonal Wind on the Excitation of
Large Scale Transients
Massachusetts Institute of Technology PhD 1989
18. Snyder, Christopher Martin
On the Effects of Partial Equilibration and Cumulus Heating on
Baroclinic Instability
Massachusetts Institute of Technology PhD 1989
19. Miller, Ronald Lindsay
Topics in Shear Instability: (A) Viscous Destabilization of Stratified
Shear Flow, (B) Organization of Rainfall by an Unstable Jet Aloft
Massachusetts Institute of Technology PhD 1990
20. Pan, Wenwei
Rectifying the Long-term Climate Fluctuations in the Milankovitch Bands
Massachusetts Institute of Technology MSc 1992
21. Yang, Niu
Investigation of Applying Normal Mode Initialization Method to Planetary
Stationary Wave Disturbances
Massachusetts Institute of Technology MSc 1992
22. Sun, De-Zheng
Tropical Tropospheric Water Vapor Budget, Maintenance of the Lapse
Rate, and Distribution of the Extratropical Tropospheric
Temperature and Wind
Massachusetts Institute of Technology PhD 1993
23. Kirk-Davidoff, Daniel Bernard
The Implications of Potential Vorticity Homogenization for the
Climate and Climate Sensitivity
Massachusetts Institute of Technology PhD 1998
24. Roe, Gerard Hugh
Wobbly Winds in an Ice Age: The Mutual Interaction between the
Great Continental Ice Sheets and Atmospheric Stationary Waves
Massachusetts Institute of Technology PhD 1999
25. Harnik, Nili
The Vertical Structure of Stratospheric Planetary Waves and Its
Variability: Theory and Observations
Massachusetts Institute of Technology PhD 2000
26. Giannitsis, Constantine
Nonlinear Saturation of Vertically Propagating Rossby Waves
Massachusetts Institute of Technology PhD 2001
27. Zurita-Gotor, Pablo
Inhomogeneous PV Mixing and Equilibration of Baroclinic Instability with
Implications for the Extratropical Circulation
Massachusetts Institute of Technology PhD 2003

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[futuredivot 0]

Which makes him less reliable than the researchers who are, or are attempting to suck environmental activist dick for grant money how?

You are only as strong as the prey you devour

[kallend 2,032]

Appeal to Authority doesn't work here, you know.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 23]

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Appeal to Authority doesn't work here, you know.

"Appeal to Authority"????

You are funny

His bio is attached. Show us how yours compares and if you were looking in who would you take as more credible.

Oh, and buddy, GOOD consultants get that kind of money. You dont bring that much? Oh jellousy is an ugly green animal

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

Now that we are done with the kallend trantrum I am looking forward to those like billvon who have a greater understanding of the data to reply. I would guess replies from Bill and others may take awhile because there is alot of info

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[lawrocket 3]

That's a useful point, Professor. He's a consultant for the coal companies. Since everything is settled, any science in support of the prevailing dogma shall be hailed. Any science coming out against the dogma shall be disregarded as put forward by a corporate shill.

Lindzen has caught a lot of shit for pointing out things like data. Others respond with data of their own. But they end up trashing him as a denier and corporate whore. He's been pointing out for years that we aren't warming like we've been told we should have.

Just a couple of months ago, a serious discussion began on that site because there hasn't been any warming in the last decade and nobody can explain why. Either the data is wrong or the physics is wrong.

Now, I believe CO2 is relevant in the climate discussion. I also see, however, that the predictions simply are not coming true. I can't comment on the science of Lindzen's paper (I haven't read it) but it seems fairly clear that his graphs are merely pointing out temperature trends that are contrary to the predictions of the temperature models.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[billvon 3,009]

Hmm. He claims CO2 is indeed a factor, but less of a factor than the IPCC thinks. So your subject line is, as usual, a lie.

Nice spin, though.

[rushmc 23]

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Hmm. He claims CO2 is indeed a factor, but less of a factor than the IPCC thinks. So your subject line is, as usual, a lie.

Nice spin, though.

No spin sir

6 times less of a factor is a big deal

And again, I copied the title of the article to the subject line. Nice spin attempt on your part

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,009]

>And again, I copied the title of the article to the subject line.

OK. So you posted more errors, and are not responsible for them. Fair enough?

[kallend 2,032]

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Appeal to Authority doesn't work here, you know.

"Appeal to Authority"????

You are funny

His bio is attached. Show us how yours compares and if you were looking in who would you take as more credible.

Oh, and buddy, GOOD consultants get that kind of money. You dont bring that much? Oh jellousy is an ugly green animal

Actually I only ASKED if that was the guy who was well paid for his "opinions", so I thank you for confirming that it is.

I do indeed bring that much, but I don't then claim impartiality when making claims favoring the companies who pay me.


I find his bio combined with the financial gain he achieves by being a denier makes him less credible than the scientists at NOAA, NSIDC and NASA who aren't payed for their opinions.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[kelpdiver 2]

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And again, I copied the title of the article to the subject line. Nice spin attempt on your part

That headline, the opening paragraph, and the banner ads on the website (Obama Socialist?) set off all sorts of truthiness alarm bells without even looking at the contents. Not a good starting point when talking about science.

[rushmc 23]

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>And again, I copied the title of the article to the subject line.

OK. So you posted more errors, and are not responsible for them. Fair enough?

You really are having a problem with data that goes against your relgion. I will try and be more sentative your your hang ups in the future

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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Quote

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Appeal to Authority doesn't work here, you know.

"Appeal to Authority"????

You are funny

His bio is attached. Show us how yours compares and if you were looking in who would you take as more credible.

Oh, and buddy, GOOD consultants get that kind of money. You dont bring that much? Oh jellousy is an ugly green animal

Actually I only ASKED if that was the guy who was well paid for his "opinions", so I thank you for confirming that it is.

I do indeed bring that much, but I don't then claim impartiality when making claims favoring the companies who pay me.


I find his bio combined with the financial gain he achieves by being a denier makes him less credible than the scientists at NOAA, NSIDC and NASA who aren't payed for their opinions.

I have no idea if he makes that kind of money.. I guess I took your post for a level of truth. Guess that was my bad. I will not be doing that again.

But the fact that still remains is you went after the source with out having time to go through the article or data. Make you still look funny

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

Quote

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And again, I copied the title of the article to the subject line. Nice spin attempt on your part

That headline, the opening paragraph, and the banner ads on the website (Obama Socialist?) set off all sorts of truthiness alarm bells without even looking at the contents. Not a good starting point when talking about science.

Read the article, it fits

not a good starting point on your part

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,009]

> I guess I took your post for a level of truth.

Looks like you expect others to do what you can't be bothered to do for yourself! Interesting. But given that your very livelihood depends on you keeping your fingers firmly in your ears, not that surprising.

[rushmc 23]

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> I guess I took your post for a level of truth.

Looks like you expect others to do what you can't be bothered to do for yourself! Interesting. But given that your very livelihood depends on you keeping your fingers firmly in your ears, not that surprising.

Oohhhhh, a greenie pa.

With this level of crap flying I know the truth is painful for you

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

If anybody needs anything to help them understand that the wheels are coming off the Church of AGW they need only read this tread

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,009]

I'm afraid this is going to sting a bit, then:

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Climate change opens Arctic route for German ships
Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:40pm EDT
By Erik Kirschbaum

BERLIN, Aug 21 (Reuters) - Two German ships set off on Friday on the first journey across Russia's Arctic-facing northern shore without the help of icebreakers after climate change helped opened the passage, the company said.

Niels Stolberg, president and CEO of Beluga Shipping GmbH, said the "Beluga Fraternity" and "Beluga Foresight" left the Russian port of Vladivostok on the historic and cost-saving journey with cargo picked up in South Korea bound for Holland.

The melting of Arctic ice as a result of climate change has made it possible to send Beluga's multi-purpose heavy lift ships along the legendary Northeast Passage, Stolberg said.
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Sorry to harsh the denier high on a Friday.

[futuredivot 0]

So a shipping company CEO is a better source than an MIT scientist because the magnate supports your position?

You are only as strong as the prey you devour

[lawrocket 3]

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I find his bio combined with the financial gain he achieves by being a denier makes him less credible than the scientists at NOAA, NSIDC and NASA who aren't payed for their opinions.

They are not working for free, are they?

From NASA's "Global Climate Change" page.

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But while there's little doubt that humans are making the world warmer, there's still a lot to learn about what the consequences will be. How much warmer will it get? How much faster is sea level likely to increase? What will happen to soil moisture, and therefore agricultural production, in a warmer world? NASA scientists and engineers will help answer these and other questions in the future.

In 2007, NASA had an earth sciences budget of $1.3 billion in climate funding. You've also seen that they are settled on anthropogenic climate change. The questions that are their climate mission right now will not need to be answered if there is no climate change. And their budget will drop to a couple hundred million.

"I need a grant to study the effects of anthropogenic global warming on the skin of fashion models."
"There is no anthropogenic climate change."
"Can I get a grant to study it anyway?"
"Nope."

And yes, they do give some good data. So does the NSIDC and NOAA. For example, NOAA reported that for July, 2009, the combined global land and ocean surface temperature for July 2009 was the fifth warmest on record, at 0.57°C (1.03°F) above the 20th century average of 15.8°C (60.4°F) - the 33rd consecutive year above that average.

Also, the global ocean surface temperature for July 2009 was the warmest on record, 0.59°C (1.06°F) above the 20th century average of 16.4°C (61.5°F). This broke the previous July record set in 1998. (strong el nino).

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?report=global&year=2009&month=7&submitted=Get+Report

Other tidbits. The southern hemisphere ocean temperature is the second warmest on record! Since January, thought, worldwide we're in the top ten on everything, but it's been pretty cool.

For Arctic sea ice, it's 12.7% below the 1979-2000 average - good for 3rd place. Meanwhile, in the south, despite the very warm oceans temperatures, Antarctica has the tenth largest sea ice extent. July sea ice has INCREASED .8% per decade!

What is truly amazing on this page is to look at what a hot year 1998 was! It was also (until this year) the strongest El Nino ever recorded.

Perhaps we shall see something similar next year.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[lawrocket 3]

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I'm afraid this is going to sting a bit, then:

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Climate change opens Arctic route for German ships
Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:40pm EDT
By Erik Kirschbaum

BERLIN, Aug 21 (Reuters) - Two German ships set off on Friday on the first journey across Russia's Arctic-facing northern shore without the help of icebreakers after climate change helped opened the passage, the company said.

Niels Stolberg, president and CEO of Beluga Shipping GmbH, said the "Beluga Fraternity" and "Beluga Foresight" left the Russian port of Vladivostok on the historic and cost-saving journey with cargo picked up in South Korea bound for Holland.

The melting of Arctic ice as a result of climate change has made it possible to send Beluga's multi-purpose heavy lift ships along the legendary Northeast Passage, Stolberg said.
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Sorry to harsh the denier high on a Friday.

From my post:

For Arctic sea ice, it's 12.7% below the 1979-2000 average - good for 3rd place.

Meanwhile, Antarctica has the tenth largest sea ice extent. July sea ice has INCREASED .8% per decade!

I wonder whether global warming will cause Cape Horn to ice over! YIKES!

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[rushmc 23]

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I'm afraid this is going to sting a bit, then:

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Climate change opens Arctic route for German ships
Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:40pm EDT
By Erik Kirschbaum

BERLIN, Aug 21 (Reuters) - Two German ships set off on Friday on the first journey across Russia's Arctic-facing northern shore without the help of icebreakers after climate change helped opened the passage, the company said.

Niels Stolberg, president and CEO of Beluga Shipping GmbH, said the "Beluga Fraternity" and "Beluga Foresight" left the Russian port of Vladivostok on the historic and cost-saving journey with cargo picked up in South Korea bound for Holland.

The melting of Arctic ice as a result of climate change has made it possible to send Beluga's multi-purpose heavy lift ships along the legendary Northeast Passage, Stolberg said.
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Sorry to harsh the denier high on a Friday.

Thanks for providing support for my over all point. the science is not settled to the point to kill jobs and spend billions/trillions on maybe worthless programs.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln