dreamdancer 0 #1 August 22, 2009 acorn do a lot of good work... QuoteNow we know that Karl Rove spearheaded the firing of David Iglesias, the U.S. Attorney in New Mexico who refused to follow the Bush White House's orders to intimidate low-income voters by making false charges of "voter fraud." What the New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, Wall Street Journal and other major papers missed in their stories last week was that Rove was specifically targeting ACORN, the community organizing group that has waged some of the most effective voter registration drives in recent memory. Rove viewed ACORN as a threat to the GOP because of its success in registering low-income voters and turning them out to vote on election day. I describe Rove's campaign against ACORN -- not only in New Mexico, but also in other "swing" states where more low-income voters could hurt GOP candidates -- in my forthcoming book Seeds of Hope, a history of ACORN, published by Vanderbilt University Press. Last week, the House Judiciary Committee released over 5,000 pages of White House and Republican National Committee e-mails, with transcripts of closed-door testimony by Karl Rove and former White House Counsel Harriet Miers. The documents reveal that Rove played a central role in sacking Iglesias, who was one of several federal prosecutors fired in a string of politically motivated dismissals in 2006. Iglesias refused to cooperate with the White House's political agenda of prosecuting ACORN for "voter fraud." Under pressure from New Mexico Republicans and Rove, Iglesias, a Republican and former Navy lawyer appointed by President George W. Bush, did investigate whether ACORN was engaged in voter registration fraud. But once Iglesias realized ACORN was following the rules he refused to smear the group by filing a phony indictment. http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/08/21-1stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #2 August 22, 2009 Quote acorn do a lot of good work... wheeze, gasp, choke..... Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmyfitz 0 #3 August 22, 2009 Quote Quote acorn do a lot of good work... wheeze, gasp, choke..... Al Capone did charity work also. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #4 August 22, 2009 acorn is a democratic voter registration organisation - not a part of the mafia stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #5 August 22, 2009 Quoteacorn is a democratic voter registration organisation Yeah, OK, you keep telling yourself that.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #6 August 22, 2009 QuoteQuoteacorn is a democratic voter registration organisation Yeah, OK, you keep telling yourself that. you're saying acorn is part of the mafia?stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #7 August 22, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteacorn is a democratic voter registration organisation Yeah, OK, you keep telling yourself that. you're saying acorn is part of the mafia? Depends on how much labor union involvement they have and which family they are aligned with. SIEU? UFCW? Teamsters? My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #8 August 22, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote acorn is a democratic voter registration organisation Yeah, OK, you keep telling yourself that. you're saying acorn is part of the mafia? Depends on how much labor union involvement they have and which family they are aligned with. SIEU? UFCW? Teamsters? the answer is, no, they are not part of the mafia lawrocket (all they do is get voters to register - what is wrong with that)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #9 August 22, 2009 you're saying acorn is part of the mafia? Depends on how much labor union involvement they have and which family they are aligned with. SIEU? UFCW? Teamsters? the answer is, no, they are not part of the mafia lawrocket (all they do is get voters to register LIBERAL DEMOCRAT - what is wrong with that) There now it makes more sense and is truthful. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #10 August 22, 2009 Quote you're saying acorn is part of the mafia? Depends on how much labor union involvement they have and which family they are aligned with. SIEU? UFCW? Teamsters? the answer is, no, they are not part of the mafia lawrocket (all they do is get voters to register LIBERAL DEMOCRAT - what is wrong with that) There now it makes more sense and is truthful. still nothing wrong with that - especially if they're good at it stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #11 August 22, 2009 Why do you even care? You are not a US Citizen and you obviously could not care less about what is best for the USA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #12 August 22, 2009 Simply registering voters does not power and money make. Indeed, DMV's do this. It's pretty much automatic. I don't have a problem with ACORN. They are making shitloads of money. A capitalist example. Hopefully, they are taking their money and power and distributing it without strings to the underclass populace. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #13 August 22, 2009 i have a soft spot for the former colonies stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #14 August 22, 2009 Quote Simply registering voters does not power and money make. Indeed, DMV's do this. It's pretty much automatic. I don't have a problem with ACORN. They are making shitloads of money. A capitalist example. Hopefully, they are taking their money and power and distributing it without strings to the underclass populace. sounds good stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #15 August 22, 2009 This means you think they're bad. They are NOT registering certain people because those people exercising their rights is not worthy to them. If ACORN receives a cent of government money and uses it for partisan political purpose, this is a very very bad thing. If it is fully privately funded, then be my guest! My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #16 August 23, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote acorn is a democratic voter registration organisation Yeah, OK, you keep telling yourself that. you're saying acorn is part of the mafia? Depends on how much labor union involvement they have and which family they are aligned with. SIEU? UFCW? Teamsters? the answer is, no, they are not part of the mafia lawrocket (all they do is get voters to register - what is wrong with that) Nothing, provided the voters they're registering actually exist. They seem to have a problem that part of it. http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/22/voter.fraud/ http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/ralstons-flash/2008/oct/07/acorn-hire-d-inmates-some-experts-identity-theft/ http://www.nypost.com/seven/10122008/news/politics/7_yr__old_gets_an_acorn_vote_133207.htm http://www.lvrj.com/news/30613864.html http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/elections/article852295.ece I could spend another 11 seconds looking for more stories of ACORN fraud if you'd like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #17 August 23, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote acorn is a democratic voter registration organisation Yeah, OK, you keep telling yourself that. you're saying acorn is part of the mafia? Depends on how much labor union involvement they have and which family they are aligned with. SIEU? UFCW? Teamsters? the answer is, no, they are not part of the mafia lawrocket (all they do is get voters to register - what is wrong with that) Nothing, provided the voters they're registering actually exist. They seem to have a problem that part of it. http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/22/voter.fraud/ http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/ralstons-flash/2008/oct/07/acorn-hire-d-inmates-some-experts-identity-theft/ http://www.nypost.com/seven/10122008/news/politics/7_yr__old_gets_an_acorn_vote_133207.htm http://www.lvrj.com/news/30613864.html http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/elections/article852295.ece I could spend another 11 seconds looking for more stories of ACORN fraud if you'd like. could you find the time to get some stories that are factual (rather than the stuff rove has fed you)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #18 August 23, 2009 Quote Al Capone did charity work also. Ignorance is bliss. The right wing loons who fall for the horseshit about ACORN being an evil ogranization are the very definition of GULLIBLE. How igorant and factually un-informed is it possible to be? Try reading up on what ACORN actually does and what the outcome of their efforts actually are. For the exceptionally lazy among the righties, here is a synopsis - ACORN is an organization that registers eligble voters. Mostly in poor and minority neighborhoods. There have been VERY FEW instances of voter REGISTRATION fraud that have been attributed to rogue ACORN employees. ACORN itself brought the fraud to the attention of authorities, as required to by law. The right wiing controlled media has spun this into a huge issue, if one is ignorant of the facts of what occurred and the potential of damage. Registration fraud is relatively harmless. If successful, a voter is on the list of voters and has the POTENTIAL to vote. That is not even close to voter FRAUD, where a fraudulent VOTE is counted during an election, for example, when computerized voting machine security is compromised. Registration fraud does not, in any way, correlate to voter fraud. Note to righties - Try worring about shit that matters, like why your boys wote into law that Medicare and the US Government CAN NOT negotiate the price of prescription drugs with the drug companies. Your boys guaranteed that We, The People, pay full retail price for drugs, when we are the biggest buyers of drugs, by far. Why don't we get bulk discounts, like in every other business model in the US, for goods and services that are purchased in massive quantities? Because you all let it happen when you were in power. Hey, it is only several TRILLION dollars in play. As long as it is government dollars going to private companies, its all good, right? Trillion dollar giveaways to the most profitable companies on the planet. and not a peep of outrage from the right. Please explain why. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #19 August 23, 2009 Quote acorn is a democratic voter registration organisation - not a part of the mafia have to admit you are right. ACORN is making the mafia look week and unable to get federal funding. With the power of BHO behind them the mafia looks like a bunch of pussys"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #20 August 23, 2009 YOU named it!!\ http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=ACORN+fraud&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g4 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=acorn+guilty+of+voter+fraud&aq=0&oq=ACORN+guilty&aqi=g1 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=acorn+federal+funding&aq=0&oq=acorn+federal+&aqi=g5 Have some fun becoming un-bliss"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #21 August 24, 2009 I like your tag line. It pretty much sums up the whole argument. ACORN needs to go away. Scooby Doo is not an actual person."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #22 August 24, 2009 Quote Ignorance is bliss. It would appear so. Quote The right wing loons who fall for the horseshit about ACORN being an evil ogranization are the very definition of GULLIBLE. So there's this massive right-wing conspiracy involving the entire national media to falsely report many, many instances of ACORN fraud? Sounds a little more illogical than the birth certificate thing. Quote How igorant and factually un-informed is it possible to be? Look at our current president - it should be pretty obvious (note that I'm not defending McCain here). Quote Try reading up on what ACORN actually does and what the outcome of their efforts actually are. I have. Their goal is to register people to vote - how they do that seems to be the question. Their methods of doing seem to be questionable on many occasions. (Mickey Mouse? Really?). Quote For the exceptionally lazy among the righties, here is a synopsis - You could have just said "for the left-leaning righties" , who are pretty much democrats based on their actions anyway. Quote ACORN is an organization that registers eligble voters. Like Tony Romo and Terrell Owens in Nevada? Mickey Mouse in Florida? A 7 year-old girl in another state? Quote Hey, it is only several TRILLION dollars in play. As long as it is government dollars going to private companies, its all good, right? So why then does Obama keep doing it? Tell me, based on his actions, how is he any different than the last president? Quote Trillion dollar giveaways to the most profitable companies on the planet. and not a peep of outrage from the right. Please explain why. Because most of the right is actually on the left? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #23 August 24, 2009 Quote YOU named it!!\ http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=ACORN+fraud&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g4 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=acorn+guilty+of+voter+fraud&aq=0&oq=ACORN+guilty&aqi=g1 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=acorn+federal+funding&aq=0&oq=acorn+federal+&aqi=g5 Have some fun becoming un-bliss none of your links is relevant to the topic (try again)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #24 August 24, 2009 Quote Try reading up on what ACORN actually does and what the outcome of their efforts actually are. Doesnt fit??"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #25 August 24, 2009 Quote I like your tag line. It pretty much sums up the whole argument. ACORN needs to go away. Scooby Doo is not an actual person. Yes, at times it does fit for me. This time? Not so much"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
