Skyrad 0 #1 October 5, 2009 Mrs Doyle walks into the room wearing a french maid outfit... 'Would you likesome Lisburn treaty father? Ted looks suspeciously at Mrs Doyle...'No Mrs Doyle, I'm grand thank you' Mrs Doyle... Go'wan, Go'wan Go'GWAN!!! Ted cowering... ' Lisburn you say? Yes that would be lovely thank you' 2 Oct 2009 The day that Ireland faced up to the belief that it can only prosper on the coat tails of other nations.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #2 October 5, 2009 The amazing thing about democracy, and one of it's major shortcomings, is that one need only repeat a question at intervals for a long enough period, and the people will assent. After that, they have no further opportunity to dissent. Say "no" a hundred times, and still we ask. But say "yes" once, and the issue is resolved forever. Makes lots of sense, doesn't it?-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #3 October 5, 2009 OK... so help a poor lil yank with that visual. Is Ireland supposed to be in a French Maid outfit? Or would that be Jolly ole playing the role of Mrs Doyle? Being across the pond, it's kinda hard to see who's wearing the skirt in that skit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,073 #4 October 5, 2009 >Say "no" a hundred times, and still we ask. But say "yes" once, >and the issue is resolved forever. Sorta like joining the military, or getting married . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #5 October 5, 2009 Quote>Say "no" a hundred times, and still we ask. But say "yes" once, >and the issue is resolved forever. Sorta like joining the military, or getting married . . . Except that your children, and their children, and their children, need not remain on active duty for all eternity. And have you seen the divorce rate lately? What do you think the chance is that Ireland will get a divorce, should they ask? As I recall, the divorce filings in our own country a while back were pretty unsuccessful.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #6 October 5, 2009 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-eighth_Amendment_of_the_Constitution_of_Ireland_Bill,_2009-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #7 October 5, 2009 Quote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-eighth_Amendment_of_the_Constitution_of_Ireland_Bill,_2009 OK... I understood WHAT he was referring to, but it's the visual that I was having trouble with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,073 #8 October 5, 2009 >Except that your children, and their children, and their children, need >not remain on active duty for all eternity. Well, but they do have to keep your name. Unless they want to change it, of course. >What do you think the chance is that Ireland will get a divorce, should they ask? Shouldn't be hard. The EU doesn't have too many stormtroopers yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #9 October 5, 2009 QuoteShouldn't be hard. The EU doesn't have too many stormtroopers yet. Nor did the US, in 1776. But by 1860, the situation had changed markedly.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CornishChris 5 #10 October 6, 2009 LISBON! LISBON! LISBON! LISBON! It's in Portugal. In fact it's the capital! I hope 'Lisburn' was for comic effect... CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feuergnom 29 #11 October 6, 2009 Quote I hope 'Lisburn' was for comic effect... i bet it wasn't The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #12 October 6, 2009 One of the scary things about the Lisburm treaty is that one of the clauses states that future ammendments do not have to be ratified by a vote. In effect Ireland has just given away its right to self determination. Having bitched about 700 years of British rule they lasted less than a century before giving the right to make laws and rule to the French and Germans.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #13 October 6, 2009 QuoteLISBON! LISBON! LISBON! LISBON! It's in Portugal. In fact it's the capital! I hope 'Lisburn' was for comic effect... Lisburn (just south of Belfast in Northern Ireland) it was a joke/pun (based around foriegn rule and Ireland).When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #14 October 6, 2009 Quote One of the scary things about the Lisburm treaty is that one of the clauses states that future ammendments do not have to be ratified by a vote. Vote for this once, and you'll never be bothered with that tedious voting chore again! -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,563 #15 October 6, 2009 QuoteQuotehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-eighth_Amendment_of_the_Constitution_of_Ireland_Bill,_2009 OK... I understood WHAT he was referring to, but it's the visual that I was having trouble with. They're characters from Father Ted, one of the greatest sit-coms of all time. Who/what they represent doesn't really matter that much (although I would say Mrs Doyle is the Irish Gov't and Ted the people), it's more that they are very, very funny.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #16 October 6, 2009 Quote Quote Quote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-eighth_Amendment_of_the_Constitution_of_Ireland_Bill,_2009 OK... I understood WHAT he was referring to, but it's the visual that I was having trouble with. They're characters from Father Ted, one of the greatest sit-coms of all time. Who/what they represent doesn't really matter that much (although I would say Mrs Doyle is the Irish Gov't and Ted the people), it's more that they are very, very funny. So... does Ted (aka "the people") get to *cough* (wink, nudge) *cough* with Mrs Doyle (the "Government") Other side of that - the Government is f'ing the people. But they seem to want it. Why vote AGAINST self determination? Oh wait... that's what we're kind of doing too?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,563 #17 October 6, 2009 Quote So... does Ted (aka "the people") get to *cough* (wink, nudge) *cough* with Mrs Doyle (the "Government") Don't over think it, just watch some of thesehttp://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=father+ted+mrs+doyle&search_type=&aq=fDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CornishChris 5 #18 October 6, 2009 Gotcha! CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #19 October 7, 2009 QuoteConfidential negotiations on how to implement the Lisbon Treaty have produced proposals to allow the EU to negotiate treaties and even open embassies across the world. A letter conferring a full "legal personality" for the Union has been drafted in order for a new European diplomatic service to be recognised as fully fledged negotiators by international bodies and all non-EU countries. According to one confidential paper, the first pilot "embassies" are planned in New York, Kabul and Addis Ababa. The move is highly symbolic in Britain as it formally scraps the "European Community", the organisation that Britons originally voted to join in the country's only referendum on Europe 34 years ago. Mark Francois, Conservative spokesman on Europe, said that the deal showed why the British should have been given a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty. "As we have long warned, the Lisbon Treaty increases the EU's power at the expense of the countries of Europe," he said. "The new power a single legal personality would give the EU is a classic example. "It illustrates why it is wrong for Labour to try to deny the British people any say on this Treaty at all." The decision, taken shortly before Ireland's referendum last week, will mean a new European diplomatic service with over 160 "EU representations" and ambassadors across the world. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/6266147/EU-draws-up-plans-to-establish-itself-as-world-power.htmlstay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgw 8 #20 October 7, 2009 Ireland would have been a lot better off today if the Nation had not been oppressed by english for a millenium. I am glad you are gone. Slan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #21 October 7, 2009 Sure, there'd be no Trinity, no Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland, no decent buildings, no law, no affordable goods in the north, no language other than Irish so no one would be able to communicate with each other as hardly anyone speaks Irish anyway. I'm sick of hearing whiney arsed whinging about how the English oppressed the Irish, its pathetic. Sure there was some oppresion but in the end the Irish got more from the British than we ever got from Ireland. And before you start banging on about the Black and Tans maybe you should revisit your history books as most of them were either Scots or Irish Prods from Northern Ireland, not English. Now Ireland has handed over the country to France and Germany who will make your laws from now on and oppress you fiscally. And for your information I'm not gone, (I haven't gone away you know) I live in Ireland and see the shite state of the country on a daily basis. The country is €400 Million a week further in debt every week while the people play ostrich and stick their heads in the sand. Unions bitch about public pay cuts and lack of pay rises. €400 Million a week every week and less than 4.3 Million people to pay it back. Look around, the country is shagged, and it wasn't shagged by the 'English' but by mismangement of successive Irish govenments, if it wasn't for trade with the British the country would never even have got this far. Motorways left unfinished, the HSE so broke that it has to cut €800Million next year alone. Coruption is rampant, the new runway at Dublin airport cancelled, the new terminal building to be mothballed as no one is buying space in it, Aer Lingus just screwed another 600 staff, Del dumped 4000 jobs, GE pulling out. Drive around the M50 and all you see is TO LET, SPACE FOR HIRE, EMPTY OFFICE SPACE. Everyone gets in their cars at the weekend and buggers off to Newry (UK) to do their shopping (But thats ok as even Martin McGuiness is saying that there is nothing wrong with paying your taxes to Her Majesty's Government)because the Irish are to busy fucking each other over for an extra Euro that its so stupidly expensive. Add to that that what the country needs to do is devalue its currency and encourage spending but can't because the Germans and French won't give you any more money and aren't interested in Ireland or its problem. So the only thing that BIFFO can do is raise taxes and bang up the VAT and income tax and you'll find that Ireland is sitting in a shit box of its own making. So tie up your pony, put on your best shell suit and cop on to yerself. Thalla a chluiche le do deideagan Is mise le meas SkyradWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #22 October 7, 2009 QuoteIreland would have been a lot better off today if the Nation had not been oppressed by english the Catholic Church for a millenium. I am glad you are gone. Slan. There fixed it for you. Is leir don saol e an firinneWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
